foomanjee Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 This tactic is a modified version of MAGiCK_FOOTBALL's tactic (http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/295728-Total-Football-Tic-Tac-Magick-%28The-return-Part-2%29). Many thanks go out to him for his work. I feel that this tactic is different enough that that it warrents its own thread. I've been working on this for a while now, and so far I've had nothing but success. The formation is a 41223 (no striker, so 460 literally). This is the way I personally feel that Barcelona line up - with Messi as a False 9. However I won't say this is "yet another Barcelona clone". It's different enough in its own right. Formation: http://box.nevernet.com/~djr/img/bAT0.png One season example: Results: http://box.nevernet.com/~djr/img/Hqji.png - http://box.nevernet.com/~djr/img/AV0j.png League table: http://box.nevernet.com/~djr/img/Inw9.png This formation should theoretically work for lower league teams, since it isn't too attacking, too defensive, or use too high of a tempo. However, the large amount of closing down might tire out players with a low workrate, or stamina. Main differences between this tactic and MAGiCK's: * Formation - Messi is central, but rarely leads the line. With this match engine, when you move the ST to AMC, sometimes one of the wingers move forward to lead the line. This allows the ST/AMC to drop deep and become a part of the buildup play. * Fullbacks - Forward Runs is set to always. This doesn't provide a problem for defense, since there's a DMC. Fullbacks rarely both go forward at the same time. Since the fullbacks are higher up the pitch more often, you'll find that you win the ball back higher up the pitch as well. When you lose possession, you're more likley to win it back quickly. * Central MC moved to DMC - Helps with defense, and when fullbacks move forward. Helps retain ball posesssion. * Tempo - It seems that when running a 460, low tempo doesn't work very well. Your players will dally on the ball and lose it when under pressure. A higher tempo results in moving the ball around more often, looking for that killer pass. * Wingers - Crossing is up a bit. You'll get a few more assists from wingers with nice square passes to the AMC. * Roaming - No roaming on anyone but the wingers. Helps retain shape. * Mentality - Global. All players are on the same mentality (10). I feel this helps keep shape, and retain the ball. Also isn't "too attacking", or "too defensive". * Corner routine - there's a corner routine set up. Near post, with your striker as the short option. This helps retain ball possession if your CB ends up with the ball at his feet, rather than his head. He'll drop the ball back to the striker. * AMC - The AMC has "run with ball" and "forward runs" set to often. RWB often means he'll be a constant threat when he gets the ball. Forward runs lets him get forward to occasionally lead the line when the ball is out wide. * Thin up front, wide in the back - Since the fullbacks push forward, the wingers have no choice but to cut inside. This gives you more "goalscorers" in and around the box, while providing good width outside. * Flexibility - since I'm using a global mentality here, it means that you can make your entire team slightly more attacking, or slightly more defensive just by moving the team mentality slider. Normally you shouldn't have to touch this, but you may on a rare occasion. What you should expect to see: * Possession - however, you won't see 100+ passes by any players, since this uses a higher tempo. You should end up with a pretty large amount of possession, though (60+). * Creative, clean build up - With safe, yet creative passing. Plenty of throughballs from the AMC to the wingers. * Domination - you should end up dominating most of your matches in possession, shots, shots on target, and clear cut chances. * Pressure - constant pressure. Lose the ball? Your players should work to get it back ASAP, higher up the pitch. Players needed: Creative - Your AMC should be a creative striker. Think Giussepe Rossi. Good on the ball, good dribbling, good passing, but good enough to take on a defender on his own. Wingers - Both wingers "cut inside". I've found both normal wingers, and inside forwards both work quite well in this position. The Wingers will get more assists (crosses), while the inside forwards will get more goals (cutting inside). Quick wingers are a plus, but not required. The MCR is the playmaker. This probably isn't even needed, since focused passing is "mixed", however I haven't really tested that. Please give this tactic a shot, and give me any input you have. Let me know if you aren't seeing what I expect you to see, and I can make some tweaks. Download: http://box.nevernet.com/~djr/flow.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samfisher Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 i just beat valencia 1-0 at away , have 4 ccc and good posesssion ball (65 % ^^) , only my striker finish not good ....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqirg Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'll give it a go on my Liverpool game. I've been trying to create a tactic like this for a long time. Let's hope it works as well as expected! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foomanjee Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 Curious if you guys have played any more games, and what kind of success you're having? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 do you adjust tempo & time wasting like MAGiCK_FOOTBALL's tactic? My Twitter @Cragswfc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foomanjee Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 do you adjust tempo & time wasting like MAGiCK_FOOTBALL's tactic? No, I never touch tempo. I do however slightly adjust the global mentality on a rare occasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 No, I never touch tempo. I do however slightly adjust the global mentality on a rare occasion.Ok cheers mate. My Twitter @Cragswfc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foomanjee Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Has anyone else tried this at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray27 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Giviing this a go with west ham only had a few games so far but looking nice and scoring goals and on average around 65% poss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foomanjee Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Giviing this a go with west ham only had a few games so far but looking nice and scoring goals and on average around 65% poss So how is it going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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