Do Youth Tournament have an effect on Regens?

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Regen Experiment

The purpose of this experiment is to see how much of an effect Youth Tournaments have on Regen creation. I decided to start this experiment after playing the Super League Small Club to Big Club challenge and noticing I wasn't getting any regens through. I did a brief experiment where I counted the number of regens that had come through in that here. The results can be found here - http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=170071/post#65. I concluded that based on this, youth tournaments had some effect on the amount of regens made. This lead me to decide to see how much of an effect Youth Tournaments do have on regen creation.

I have created four new nations each one with different criteria. Each Nation will have as default a league featuring eight teams and a national cup. Each League will also have a specific set up for youth. I have decided to leave each side’s youth facilities as they are. This will allow me to see how youth tournaments effect regen numbers and quality. I have also deleted every team other than ones I have placed into the leagues.

Nation Break Down

Nation 1 – Aruba

Aruba is the control nation for the experiment. This means that they have the standard league format of a Premier League and a FA Cup. Aruba also has a Youth League and a Youth Cup. Each of the 8 sides in the league also has an U20 side. It is this U20 side that is in the Youth Competitions. The entire sides are made up of regens so when the experiment starts I will make a note of the number of players in each side.

The Aruban nation side only has 2 players in it both of which play in Holland. There are no players in the Under 20 side. Aruba is a full FIFA member so we can see if having a league does them any good.

Nation 2 – Barbados

Barbados has absolutely no youth set up what so ever. Barbados has more “real” players than Aruba and is also a full FIFA member. They are in this to see what effect having no Youth Tournaments have on regens.

Nation 3 – St Lucia

St Lucia is the nation of the future. In addition to the ordinary Youth League it also has an additional youth league and an additional 6 Youth Cups. I have tried to balance it out but it will be interesting to see how they deal with the fixture congestion. I will explain the tournament details later.

St Lucia are a full FIFA member with few real players.

Nation 4 – Cuba

Cuba is a late addition to the experiment. Cuba will have the same set up as Aruba however they will be hit with strict homegrown player limits. This is to see if this will have an effect on regens. Cuba is the only side that will have other things edited. The only thing I will edit is the league standard of the country to attempt to lure foreigners there. This is only to make sure that the homegrown status actually means something. The homegrown rule will only be in place for the Premier League and FA Cup. The youth competitions will have no restrictions other than the U19 rule.

Cuba has the strongest of all of the International sides so it could be interesting.

Hopefully this mix of things will show how Youth Tournaments have on the number and quality of regens.

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League Details

Aruba

Aruban Premier Division

Aruban FA Cup – Both of these are just normal competitions with no additional rules.

Aruban Youth league

Aruban Youth Cup – For both of these a minimum of 11 U-20 Players must be in the side.

Barbados

Barbados Premier Division

Barbados FA Cup

No additional rules and no Youth Tournaments.

Cuba

Cuban Premier League

Cuban FA Cup – In both of these a Cuban side must have a minimum of 6 homegrown players in the side.

Cuban Youth League

Cuban FA Cup – There must be a minimum of 11 U-19s in the first team side.

St Lucia

St Lucia Premier league

St Lucia FA Cup

There are no restrictions in here either.

St Lucia Youth Leagues

St Lucia Youth League – 11 U-19s in the side. Runs August to December.

Pride of St Lucia Tournament – 11 U-20s in the side. Runs January to July.

The editor doesn’t allow a team to be in more than one league at once so as a work around St Lucian teams have a U19 and a U20 side.

St Lucia Youth Cups

St Lucia Youth Cup – Simple Youth Cup like the others.

Autumn Youth Cup

Winter Youth Cup

Spring Youth Cup

Summer Youth Cup – A series of quarterly cups that only allow U-19s to play.

St Lucian Mega Youth Cup – Every side gets two chances to win this as both the U-19 and the U-20s are in it.

KFC Youth League Cup – The same as the Mega Cup but in a Champions League style format.

Coming up the initial reports.

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Aruba

Initial Information

Initial Number of Regens : 144

CA of X or above: (I have used this from Kipfizh’s amazing Bandits/Sheriffs experiments, Hope you don’t mind.)

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 0

PA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 1

Where are they based?

Aruba: 144

Star Players

None so far.

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Barbados

Initial Information

Initial Number of Regens : 144

CA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 0

PA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 1

Where are they based?

Barbados: 144

Star Players

None so far.

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Cuba

Initial Information

Initial Number of Regens : 143

CA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 0

PA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 1

Where are they based?

Cuba: 143

Star Players

None so far.

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St Lucia

Initial Information

Initial Number of Regens : 144

CA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 0

PA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 2

Where are they based?

St Lucia: 144

Star Players

None so far.

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Damn copy and pasting from word onto the site. I will be updating every season to show what is happening. The season is flying by so the first one may be tonight.

Thanks for the support.

[JB]

Sounds good, will follow this

[Holyehsauce]

I wish you luck!

Will be interesting

[PaulHartman71]

I will be following this, looks very interesting Mr Blowcrapup.

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I have just discovered I messed up Cuba and instead of playing each other 4 times they only play each other twice. I am going to redo the first season as all the leagues need to be equal. I will update all the above information if it changes.

Edit: Luckily there were only a few changes. All of the places now have a player with a PA of 50+

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End of Seaso 2009/10 Update

Competitions

Aruba

Aruban Premier Division – La Fama

Aruban FA Cup – Caravel

Aruban Youth league – Juventud TL U20’s

Aruban Youth Cup – Racing Club Aruba U-20s

Barbados

Barbados Premier Division – Beverley Hills

Barbados FA Cup – Gall Hill

Cuba

Cuban Premier League – Ciudad Habana

Cuban FA Cup – Ciego de Avila

Cuban Youth League - Ciudad Habana U19’s

Cuban FA Cup – Las Tunas U19’s

St Lucia

St Lucia Premier league – Rovers Utd

St Lucia FA Cup –Mabouya Valley

St Lucia Youth Leagues

St Lucia Youth League – Mabouya Valley U19’s

Pride of St Lucia Tournament – Labourie U20’s

St Lucia Youth Cups

St Lucia Youth Cup – Elite Challengers U-19’s

Autumn Youth Cup – Elite Challengers U-19’s

Winter Youth Cup – Anse La Raye U-19’s

Spring Youth Cup – Mabouya Valley U19’s

Summer Youth Cup – GSYO U-19’s

St Lucian Mega Youth Cup – Labourie U-20’s

KFC Youth League Cup – LabourieU20’s

Team of the Season – Beverley Hills easily won their league.

Youth team of the Season - Labourie

I have included this just in case anyone was interested. If people aren’t bothered I will drop it. All of the clubs are real clubs. I may post a list of which sides I have used but the focus isn’t on them.

International Watch

Aruba – Lost 2 nil to Puerto Rico in their only game.

Barbados – Lost both of their friendlies but are in the Caribbean Championship 1st round.

Cuba – Won both their friendlies and are also in the Caribbean Championship.

St Luca – No Games

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Regen Updates 1

Aruba

Number of Regens : 206 (+62)

CA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 0

PA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 1

Where are they based?

Aruba: 206 (+62)

Star Players

None so far.

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Barbados

Number of Regens : 206 (+62)

CA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 0

PA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 2 (+1)

Where are they based?

Barbados: 206 (+62)

Star Players

None so far.

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Regen Update 2

Cuba

Number of Regens : 206 (+63)

CA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 0

PA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 1 (+1)

60 : 0

50 : 3 (+2)

Where are they based?

Cuba: 206 (+63)

Star Players

None so far.

Number of Non-Cuban Players in League.

0

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St Lucia

Number of Regens : 207 (+63)

CA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 0

PA of X or above:

190 : 0

180 : 0

170 : 0

160 : 0

150 : 0

140 : 0

130 : 0

120 : 0

110 : 0

100 : 0

90 : 0

80 : 0

70 : 0

60 : 0

50 : 2 (+1)

Where are they based?

St Lucia: 207 (+63) - An explanation of the numbers. The first number is the total number of regens in the area. The number after (e.g. +63) is how many more (or less) there are this year. So the 207 here is the 144 from the start plus 63 that came through this year.

Star Players

None so far.

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As you can see each nation has increased the number of regens by an almost equal amount. Each team in each league has had roughly 7 regens through this year. Cuba now has the first person with a PA above 70.

This has brought something up. As I edited the league standard I may have caused an adverse effect. Rather than the Cuban sides being able to attract more foreigners they may simply produce better regens. Ihave just had a quick look and they are no foreigners playing in Cuba. I will keep track of this number as the seasons go on.

[whitehead.10]

Having abit of trouble keeping up with the numbers, but looks good

is the 206 the base number of players in the league or?

and the 62/63 the number of new players?

[blowcrapup]

Having abit of trouble keeping up with the numbers, but looks good

is the 206 the base number of players in the league or?

and the 62/63 the number of new players?

Yeah the 206 are the total number of regens playing in that area and the number in brackets is the number of new regens this year.

[ozzymanborn]

Great experiment. Because regen creation and quality in Custom leagues seems to have some problems and this experiment maybe will show the correct way.