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Couple of minor changes here as I look to condense the info on that 'player card' area: Player style, with the added value based picture moves so that I can add in an additional string to the 'tagline' area. Attributes are here to stay in the Attribute Hub, also! Then, there is also a change that brings through some great work to help work out personalities, without giving it all away... Currently sat behind a hidden button by clicking on the player's personality.

I want to make a bit more of the player style - maybe even encompassing an icon, too. It’s really opened up what we can do - so that’s to @BouFitty and I like that idea there, too However, it has hugely detracted away from trying to set dashed_number_labels as coloured strings dependent on value, which was my aim for goals/90 etc etc to show a rough percentile, matching colours/gradings I use in the skin!

I've moved it! Sorry @JustHowie graphics\pitch\icons\kit\bubble. Remove that and you're back here:

Yeah! player positions indicator tiny.xml in player/... Remove: <widget class="player_basic_positions_indicator_widget" id="ppip" height="38" width="21"> <string id="remove_if" value="platform_is_handheld" /> <record id="object_property"> <list id="get_properties"> <record> <integer id="get_property" value="objt" /> <integer id="set_property" value="objt" /> </record> </list> </record> </widget> And... The two rows can be made of anything, I've got description but role or best pos can be used...

It's not quite what I wanted, yet... I've been able to extract these, for example but I don't really know what to do with this information, if I'm honest...

Wow. This is where my night will go... I presume that, for things like personality - you'd create a space and have <widget class="textstringnum"> <widget class="PPst"> In some kind of table so that you can pull through the actual personality with the number string next to it? EDIT: I've just had a little play adding it into my skin and using my own <var> to create a text string...

Thank you! I have a list of many questions but the easiest is probably…where did you find what is essentially a personality ID? What else is located where you found this?!

Yes, you got that bit right but I was confused with how you worded the last part. Attributes will be visible for everyone (obviously dependent on attribute masking) on one of the hubs with performance values on another. The attributes are also visible on the training and attribute progress panels. I’m toying with bringing them back in to replace the dots on the player search screens and in various pop ups, but that isn’t decided yet. The onus is still on performance but there are measurable things, such as progress, that this helps with.

Yes! A hybrid of both performance data and attributes will be coming, soon. I don’t want to derail your thread with it; the quality of your discussion and planning is too good!

Yes, probably.With the difference in calendars, there isn't a lot going on at the moment. They're currently at risk of falling out of the second tier! I think that this is absolutely correct. It's early enough that I can dominate the league but still a long way from being able to really challenge in Europe!

Is there any chance you can share the whole of this please, either here or the attached xml? I'm really interested in learning how you've achieved it.

Yes. I will be! Got a few more things I want to work on over the next week or so but I will get an update out with it in. Sorry - I think this is lost in translation. I have no idea what you mean here?

Thank you! I didn’t actually realise but will look into it! It’s probably because it’s listed in the team stats panel and I had to shorten it, so it’s continued that way!

Interesting…using some transparency, I assume? Did you ever make a mockup or anything?

I read this as I’ve been toying with the idea of bringing attributes back into my Statman skin in certain areas and this kind of attention to detail is what I’ve missing and have been craving with youth development, which has always been my favourite element. I’ve enjoyed the post and I must thank you for helping to make my decision on the skin.

Ten more games down and we've made strides towards retaining our league title, despite losing the first league game of my tenure: a home tie to Malmo. Whilst not scoring freely as my youth side, we've been pretty sharp in front of goal, moving to nearly three per game across the entire season. It does, somewhat, feel a bit processional and, as such, I've lost a little interest in the tactical nuances that make this squad and this style so engaging for me, relying on - essentially - just being the better team. The bulk of the above goals have come from the emergence of Junior Boukama-Kaya, the returning academy graduate, who had spent time on loan in Germany. His pace and finishing ability, as seen from both the metrics and game-by-game breakdown have been immense, scoring in eight successive games, including two back-to-back hattricks. When playing a more traditional striker in a Trequartista role, I've ended up with a very free player; he's certainly not a creative hub - averaging just over twenty-two passes and just under three dribbles but is given license to get himself into dangerous areas, as seen by his average shot xG of 0.35 and his outputs of nearly two and a half goal contributions a game over this period. It's a role and, arguably, a player type, that I've not always been convinced by but JBK is really strutting his stuff, continuing from Brusberg before him and, remarkably, keeping Pontus Dahbo out of the starting eleven. --- I think this is the right thing to do but, if not, it's certainly the in thing at the moment as I follow in the footsteps of Jurgen Klopp and Xavi in announcing that I'll be leaving my post at the end of the season. Despite not being here for that long - just under two years - I've achieved what I set out to do: dominate the league and push on in Europe. a 3-0 romp over Anderlecht shows that we're not messing around in the Champions League and two league titles in a row will cement myself as a club icon. I have, however, pondered. Five years in Sweden, building GIF Sundsvall up to maintain as a strong team at this level prior to this appointment - is it enough? Do top class managers, striving to be the best, spend longer in their homeland? Jose didn't - four years from Leiria to Chelsea. Roberto De Zerbi took eight years to get out of Italy but Xabi Alonso only took four to leave Spain. I don't think you can put a timeframe on it, personally. Have I done enough to secure a job in the Bundesliga? Probably not. Is the 3.Liga too much of a drop? Probably, yes. I'm doing my research into the 2.Liga sides, looking to find myself either a rebuild job or a nice stepping stone. Of course, I won't allow myself to leave here on a whimper. Elfsborg have been a wonderful team and I have learnt and achieved so much in such a short time and will have, importantly, set the team up financially and in terms of it's playing squad, to dominate this level for years to come. It'll be sad to move on but, harking back to the Viking within, it's part of the quest. Sweden is nearly conquered.

Yes - it was you! Thanks. Can you explain a bit more about that text based class please?

We do…in some places! I was able to get minutes shown (someone helped me but ive forgotten who - sorry!) and I’ve got goals to show a different colour for a different value but have struggled with anything decimal. Wouldn’t be against some community exploration if you wanted to get a thread open?

I'll send you a DM. I've no idea how this is happening but I will try my best to provide a solution! Does it not do this when you hover?

Is every player like that? I’m trying to work through what may be causing it. I do use attribute masking - do you? Is your own player? Do they look like that on a) player popup b) performance and attribute hub c) comparison?

Have you expanded the xG popup panel? What shows when you press the little button on the top right?

It becomes particularly useful when I can look at exact attribute development as well as training area: As I move into probably my last release of this skin, given the changes for FM25, I do want to address some things that have been asked for over the past 18 month cycle... Please - let me know.

Every so often, I get the urge to convert the skin back to the mix of attributes and performance comparators based on which hub you're in. I can never make up my mind so always revert to the 'one or the other' approach despite the potential positives of having both...

Back in the day, I think it would be for me, too. They’ve literally been left with their youth side and, following a bit of unrealistic ‘add-manager-ing and reloading’ have upwards of €200m in debts at €1.5m a month. But with how I play the game now - a more tactically development regime without constant flow of players in and out, it’s not quite the route I want to take into Germany!

Excuse my ignorance - and the fact I've not played on the normal skin for some time - what would you be expecting to see here? It shows your performance (red or green) compared to xG, xGA and xPts and is ranked in order of xPts.