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December 21, 2023

3 ore fa, Zachary Whyte ha scritto:

Hi @tezcatlipoca665 we're happy with how Squad Building is currently working, unlikely we'll be making any further changes to it for FM24.

I am just flabbergasted by this answer. Squad building is still buggy and honestly very bad. The “improved” squad building could by no means be advertised as an headline feature. Last time I am buying this game, I’m tired. Not only you do not deliver, you also do not apologize when it happens.

I am afraid this brand is reaching its end

December 9, 2023

Il 8/12/2023 in 18:25 , Zachary Whyte ha scritto:

Hello @abcdf

Overall there is a good number of young players that are getting loan listed correctly but there are some exceptions with top players in B Teams.

However, it was a flaw in FM23 that every player in the B Team was listed for loan, sometimes meaning the B Team wouldn't have enough players to compete. Therefore it's acceptable that the majority of young players in a B Team will be unavailable for loan.

You do raise some good examples with some of the Real Madrid B players, we will look into those further, thank you.

But how is it possibile that a 130 CA player is forced to play in the 4th division of German football? This is not realistic at all. The B Team should be composed by players that are a good fit for the league they are playing in. It is pointless to have Bundesliga level players playing in the amateurs leagues. It does not happen in real life. B teams are functional only as long as they provide good growth to youngsters, not the other way around. Even more considering that in FM they get zero growth by playing in leagues that are not good enough for their level.
I’ll provide more examples, but that needs fixing, it is undoutable.

December 5, 2023

I do not know, but the fact that the team is answering to every single bug post aside from this one is concerning. The update did not solve a thing, yet they seem unwilling to acknowledge it. I need once again to outline, that we are taking time out of our free time to post here evidence of the bugs. And we do not even get an answer.

December 5, 2023

@Zachary Whyte some feedback please?

December 2, 2023

By the way, to prove that I am not whining pointlessly, this is a screenshot from BVB 2nd team after FM23 last update. Just compare it to the situation in my post above. It's incredible, you guys just seem to take 1 step forward and 5 steps back

December 2, 2023

By the way, to prove that I am not whining pointlessly, this is a screenshot from BVB 2nd team after FM23 last update. Just compare it to the situation in my post above. It's incredible, you guys just seem to take 1 step forward and 5 steps back

December 2, 2023

7 ore fa, Fwiedwice ha scritto:

Has anyone even notice that team are even rotating their players? I did a simulation 2 days before the patch and looking at the the data there seem to be no change.
First screenshot is from before 24.1 and 2nd screenshot is from 24.2. I didn't look much into like injuries or other factors, but to me it look the same. Looking at Guler even before the patch he got 2 games in and after patch 2 subs :/.
If SI want I can even upload my save but what is the point.

There is little to no change, the bug is still there. Rotation is still terrible. AI teams still never use all 5 substitutions during games. They use 2-3 on average and just do nosensical stuff like subbing in and off central defenders when they are losing the game. I am just tired

December 2, 2023

I do not know what do you mean by improved AI team selection logic, after the update the situation is still terrible, way worse then in was after the last update of FM23 that kinda improved the situation.

I lost all hope and I am tired of posting on this forum.

Borussia dortmund second team making their entire team unavailable for loan, when at least this issue was fixed in FM 23 last update and they did offer almost every single player for loan.

Explain to me what a Bundesliga level player like Duranville is doing playing in the 3rd tier of German football, what development is he going to get? zero.

Same thing for Real Madrid B, 3rd tier of spanish football. Entire team unavailble for loan. Rafa Marin played a whole season as a key player for Alaves in La Liga. Now he is left to rot in the 2nd team, not made available for sale and UNAVAILABLE for loan.

I am just getting tired. The problem is not fixed a bit. You once again delivered false hope to your users. As of now, the AI is worse than it was in FM23, and back then it was terrible.

I do not even know what to say at this point. I have been posting about this bug FOR 2 YEARS, 2 YEARS for god's sake. Now you just took it back to FM23 pre-last update level. Why? Just explain to me the logic because I just cannot understand. It does not seem so difficult to fix that 2nd team should aim at loaning their players when they are too good to play in lower leagues. Please provide an explanation to me, because I cannot understand

December 2, 2023

I do not know what do you mean by improved AI team selection logic, after the update the situation is still terrible, way worse then in was after the last update of FM23 that kinda improved the situation.

I lost all hope and I am tired of posting on this forum.

Borussia dortmundt second team making their entire team unavailable for loan, when at least this issue was fixed in FM 23 last update and they did offer almost every single player for loan.

Explain to me what a bundesliga level player like Duranville is doing playing in the 3rd tier of German football, what development is he going to get? zero.

Same thing for Real Madrid B, 3rd tier of spanish football. Entire team unavailble for loan. Rafa Marin played a whole season as a key player for Alaves in La Liga. Now he is left to rot in the 2nd team, non available for sale and UNAVAILABLE for loan.

I am just getting tired. The problem is not fixed a bit. You once again delivered false hope to your users. As of now, the AI is worse than it was in FM23, and back then it was terrible.

I do not even know what to say at this point. I have been posting about this bug FOR 2 YEARS, 2 YEARS for god's sake. Now you just took it back to FM23 pre-last update level. Why? Just explain to me the logic because I just cannot understand. It does not seem so difficult to fix that 2nd team should aim at loaning their players when they are too good to play in lower leagues. Please provide an explanation to me, because I cannot understand

November 30, 2023

@Zachary Whyte I cannot see specific references to this bug in the update changelog. Has this been addressed?

November 30, 2023

Has the AI not rotating their squad bug been addressed in the update? I cannot see specific references to it

November 23, 2023

Rico Lewis basically not getting any playing time, while not being loaned/sold. Just left to rot in City U21 team

November 9, 2023

11 ore fa, T-IceMan ha scritto:

The licensing dictates a certain cutoff date for squads though, so thats how it is....... Its not hard to understand. Sure its not ideal, but better this then to have no license whatsoever.

Bro what the heck does that mean lol. Nobody forced SI to include J-League in their game. With things being as they are, this is a half-assed poorly implemented feature that could by no means be advertised as the new “big thing” and “headline feature” of this edition. And honestly it would have been better to deploy resources in other areas than to have half a feature here and half a feature there.

we’re slowly getting to understand that almost any “headline feature” either does not exist in the game or is just implemented so badly it’s almost embarassing.

November 8, 2023

6 ore fa, SPE3D ha scritto:

I've just started playing the full game after holding off from playing the beta. Just finished pre season and not one AI team made a substitution. This despite very tired players in the first eleven. What's worse pre season is the time managers make many changes. I'm afraid this is a game breaking bug. There's no incentive for me to continue playing.

I cannot understand how you can release a game in this state. Also why was this area a headline feature? Think you should refund everyone who wants one and release the game when it's actually ready.

Honestly the situation is just embarassing. And I mean embarassing for them, to release a game with such evident game-breaking bugs. The substitutions one is just ridiculous, how can a brand as big as FM release a game in this state? This is indie game level stuff, come on. And on top of anything else, how can your marketing team think it’s a good idea to promote this side of the game a HIGHLIGHT for this edition? I just cannot understand the reasoning behind it.

November 7, 2023

Looking at the amount of views and disappointed comments on this thread I really hope that SI are going to prioritize this issue over anything else and release a timely update to at least improve these issues. But maybe I am just delusional

November 6, 2023

Michael, honestly. I have been hearing this stuff on and on from November 2022. The exact same issues are still there. And we’re left with the same indefinite answer “it will maybe be fixed at some point (nobody knows when) in the future”.
this is not acceptable anymore. I think your customers deserve a somehow exact timeline on when will these issues will be fixed. We paid upfront for your product based on what was presented as a “headline feature”. Now you’re telling me like it’s nothing that you have no clue when will the fact that this headline feature does not exist in the actual game be fixed. If you cannot/don’t care that much about fixing this side of the game, just say it.

cmon man. Cmon

November 6, 2023

9 minuti fa, mrmiituu ha scritto:

Just shocking how they release these games..

I blindly pay each year but il crack it from now on..this game deserves no money.

Youth coaches dont even know wich players to play...(highest pa..its tjat hard?)

Bro I have never heard an apology for not delivering on this forum. And I have been posting outrageously evident bugs for years. And I can bet my a*s we are not going to see another reply from the devs on this post until FM 25

November 6, 2023

9 minuti fa, FASP ha scritto:

subtitutions keep happening late and just 2 or 3 subs are made .... AI keeps calling just defenders to the banch so it cant subsitute attacking players,,,, im really disapointed because it seems the same game that we played so far. Hope this happens because today was just to make the full release of the game in order to be available for everyone and theyre planning to do a release with a huge update in the next weeks with the bug fixes....

Ok so we’re altrady saying that in order to deliver what was advertised by THEM they will need some more weeks after full release. Great. And on some other post they called me whiny because I said that not posting a changelog after full release was a least a bit suspicious.

great, just great.

November 6, 2023

Il 27/10/2023 in 19:53 , Zachary Whyte ha scritto:

Hello everybody, thank you for posting we appreciate the feedback.

To answer some of your questions:

. We have identified an issue which is causing a lack of rotation with AI teams. We are looking to make changes/improvements to this in future updates.

. Another known issue we're investigating is the AI not using their substitutions enough during games.

. In terms of the AI making transfers, there will always be instances of new signings not playing or making the breakthrough at new clubs. It was not our intention to make the AI transfer market mistake free.

- If you have good examples of bad transfers or poor squad building, then we will need save games provided at the start of transfer windows, or just before bids for players are made, in order to fully investigate, thank you.

The changes we have made to AI Squad Building for FM24 cover some of these other aspects:

- A players form is considered more when the AI target a player for a transfer, so you might see a player from a less high profile league but in good form getting moves to bigger leagues
- AI managers targeting players based on their tactical style more. For example a Wing Play manager will look for pacy wide players and target men strikers, Control Possesion manager will look for Techinchal Central Defenders, Gegenpress manager will look for energetic midfielders etc
- Managers will now better identify gaps in their squad based off their style and look to make signings suited to their style to fill those gaps
- These tactical styles will also help to improve user and AI manger decisions when sending young players out on loan to better aid their development
- Some managers will now have more of a preference for PA in backup/rotation shortlist slots than in previous versions. Where CA would be preferred resulting in ageing players often being signed for backup/rotation slots.
- A review of how players reputation can increase/decrease based off of in match performances, meaning that players reputation can increase/decrease more naturally over the course of a save game

Has the rotation issue been somehow fixed/improved with full release?

November 2, 2023

4 ore fa, tezcatlipoca665 ha scritto:

It's just making sure that a larger percentage of fullbacks have higher potential attributes for Dribbling and Crossing - same with strikers wrt Jumping and Strength, and defenders with Strength.

Unless it's a problem with training? Are the training routines just unable to make a difference to these attributes in these positions? Would it better to train fullbacks/wingbacks as wingers instead, and code the AI to do the same or something? I just don't see how this is so difficult to fix.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know wether it’s a training/development issue or it’s just that regen “spawn” with super low dribbling and crossing to begin with

October 30, 2023

Probably the biggest bug ATM, AI does not rotate at all.

October 30, 2023

32 minuti fa, LeoFM ha scritto:

To be fair, this was reported on a Saturday and it's only been one work day since then. They haven't been replying in the other bug reports created since then either.

I'm sure we will get a response, and I hope they will provide some useful information. I would really like a fairly detailed explanation from SI as to why they have never been able to fix this. If this is something that is borderline impossible to solve within the current newgen generation/development mechanics (which I'm starting to believe), then please tell me! I would rather now that then be disappointed each new FM release because of false hope...

I refuse to believe that in 2023 where we can basically fly planes into space with AI a software company worth hundreds of millions cannot fix regen fullbacks having low crossing, I just can’t.

October 30, 2023

What I find honestly ridiculous is that developers did not even bother replying to this thread to give us some kind of answer as to why this issue has been there for like 10 years. I mean, people took time out of their life to basically do THEIR job and report on a bug that is so obvious and it does not even get acknowledged. Incredible

October 27, 2023

Probably one of the bigger issues regarding AI managers at the moment. Most of the development/squad building issues cascade from this issue

October 27, 2023

11 ore fa, Rofocale ha scritto:

I'll second that. Very concerning that the AI completely fails to develop young players. Saw another Ticket here regarding squad rotation that might me related to this issue. Hopefully this gets fixed for the full release.

Some examples from a two season sim: