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Posts posted by Slabbekoorn
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Another small update, I've found a way to draw reserve teams like the game does in default but now when I set custom competitions. I'll explain later but technically what I do is under teams "draw qualified teams from end of list" then in the division below (it draws automatically each year so no promotion and relegatiom) I do the exact same but add an ignore teams."qualified end of list" max 8. So it draws reserves automatically. No more annoying stage setting for me.
This way I can create the Reserve Hoofdklasse -Reserve Derde Klasse (Zaterdag en Zondag) for each district using my Districtbekers as secondary division to draw teams from. And then I have more control on the leagues instead of last years installment. It also saves me a lot of time.
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On 7-12-2017 at 12:24, Tobcoach said:
In real life, there could be an interesting development concerning the "Jong"-teams.
Rumour has it that in due course those teams will be removed from Tweede Divisie and lower. In the Eerste Divisie 4 "Jong"-teams would remain.
Plan is that the "Jong"-teams get a separate competition, and that the champion will play against the worst "Jong"-team of the Eerste Divisie for a place in that division next year. And that the champion of the Tweede Divisie would play a play-off with the worst A-teram of the Eerste Divisie for a place in that division next year.
This would be hell to recreate in FM! How on earth can you attach that "Jong"-competition next to the Tweede Divisie (would be the same tier) and make sure that the right teams play in the right divisions? Something for the die-hard editors to figure out.
Well I have already thought of a solution but I haven't created it yet. What if we create 2 extra stages in the JL so 3 total, 4 if you add the periods.
Stage 0 is a basic stage with all teams like it is now but we remove relegation spot. But set min relegation to 0, max to 2. Create stage 1 as the periods.
Then stage 2 where we ignore B-teams and get all teams from division. In total 16 teams, last team relegates (also use set other league fate back to stage 0). Set rounds to 0, tick "create fixtures" and untick the second box. Also set in stage 0 or 1 that results are also set in stage 2 like in the Dutch periods.
Then stage 3 we choose a league of 4 teams with a playoff spot at the end. Draw only B-teams. The rest is kinda the same as stage 2.
Then the trick comes that in the Tweede Divisie we seperate the stages (or creating a parent division, place the 2e Divisie as child competition and Beloftem Eredisie as another) into B-teams and first teams from the start. The normal stage is like the normal Tweede divisie but don't draw B-teams. The second stage/competition is a stage only for B-teams and create a B league next to the Tweede Divisie. This is where the reserves duke it out. Set top team to playoff.
Then the playoff can be located in either competition. But probably also in the JL as stage 5.
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Small update, I didn’t have much time this weekend but I’ll give a update nonetheless. I’ve sorted each existing Dutch lower league club into newly created divisions, I’ve added each existing club to the newly created Districtsbekers as a second division. Now I’m working with Krlujenska to add the missing Tweede Klasse clubs.
Eredivise – Eerste klasse is already finished, I’ll add Tweede Klasse after the clubs are added. Then I’m going to collect all Derde to Vijfde Klasse clubs which is going to be a lot of work. After that I’ll add them to the game and create the Derde to the Vijfde Klasse. Then every team is in the game and I can continue finishing the Disctrictsbekers.
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12 hours ago, krlenjushka said:
send data in pm- i want to check
Do you need the unique ids for the (newly created) divisions?
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2 hours ago, krlenjushka said:
just make all data in excel and i will help you.
I have it done.
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On 30-11-2017 at 00:11, krlenjushka said:
kit data are problem - its not problem to add them to editor. i need to find the way to add data to excel. Randomize kits option is good- it randomize kits but every kit have own number. if i manage to make database of that randomize kit numbers-kits - then i can add only 1 number for that record in excel. of course i need to make some catalog so everybody can see kits and choose. like when you look for color for wall painting.
also i must check randomize kits number from fm17 and 18. if numbers are different - then i cant do it this way.
I'll be adding the missing Tweede Klasse teams tonight, I've already gathered the clubs for that division yesterday. Could you explain me how to do this? I've googled it briefly but nobody is sharing this secret.
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Also if the rest of you know some amateur cups or u19 cups that you'd like to see then post those here aswell.
I'm creating the Provincie Brabant Cup (Noord-Brabant amateurs), Palace Casino Cup (Rotterdam amateurs) and Marveldtoernooi (u19 cup) but I don't know every single of those official friendly cups. So if you know one please let me know.
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20 minutes ago, krlenjushka said:
create database with all missing clubs in excel and i will help you to transfer data to editor. you can add 2000 clubsin 2 hours if you have data in excel sheet.
Well well well looks like everyone is in luck then. I'm not at that point yet ofcourse but I'll notify you when I am ready. Only club names or also other stuff?
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I've started over and I'm pushing all leagues through in one sit. It's going rather quick at the moment. I'll probably make the leagues until the 5e klasse, maybe 6e klasse But everything below 2e klasse will be inactive. I don't have the time to create every club that isn't in the game but other people can add them if they want to continue the leagues and then the leagues themselves will be prepped already for the person that wants to complete the Dutch pyramid.
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5 minutes ago, krlenjushka said:
strange. have you tried to run "test competitions" option in editor? there you can see any errors related to fate actions or anything else. just exit FM before you do that.
No I haven't, I'll try that tonight!
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1 minute ago, krlenjushka said:
check in game only - maybe some dates are moved for some reason...
I checked and it is functioning properly just no season update day. It has one month of nothing in between the last relegation cup match and season update day.
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2 minutes ago, krlenjushka said:
try to find which level is problem.
There is just one level which is already giving trouble. I'll crosscheck it with another file tonight but it might be easier for me to start over again.
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14 hours ago, krlenjushka said:
so you managed to fix it for fm17? didnt know...
Yes I created it again from scratch and probably will have to go back to the drawing board this time around aswell. I double checked the file yesterday and it should've been correct.
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Just now, krlenjushka said:
Strange. If i decide to get FM18 i will take a look at your file. Have u used new nation rules on fm17 version?
Yes, my other dutch leagues file was a new nation rule file and I'm comparing the files now. The one from 17 works but 18 doesn't.
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1 minute ago, krlenjushka said:
New nation rules or "add lower"?
New nation rules because I need more freedom in creating the nation/leagues.
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2 minutes ago, krlenjushka said:
same problem again? must be related to your system...
Yeah but I don't know why, rounds draw nice on time with a month in between for season update day.
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1 minute ago, krlenjushka said:
where is last working fm17 file? i dont have fm18
I created this from scratch again for FM18 so there is no FM17 version anymore
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22 minutes ago, krlenjushka said:
is this FM17 file or FM18?
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I got a season update day problem again and I can't seem to fix it. The playoffs end nicely in end May and it has the entire month of june where nothing is played but still a season update day problem for 7 July and even 20 July.
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On 19-11-2017 at 19:52, Winski said:
Hi there! Will there be a FM18 file? I really hope so, as I did enjoy the FM17 file very much
Yes we'll be doing this again this year. I'm already busy with the leagues but I have less time this time around. Luckily the editor is working better this year where last year one mistake or change in a stage would kill the entire competition so that will save me a lot of time and energy.
I'm aiming to create it until the Hoofdklasse the first time around. But also with a dynamic reservecompetition, a realistic Eredivisie u19 with Top Playoff and Eredivisie/ Eerste Divisie u19 playoff, Eerste divisie u19 and the playoffs, Tweede Divisie A & B u19 and the Derde Divisie A, B, C & D u19, Nike Cup u19, Nike Supercup u19.
I'll probably be the one that makes the league changes but I'll always appreciate the help figuring stuff out and solving stuff. Hopefully this year I'll be able to link the 6 Districtbekers to qualify for the next year's KNVB Beker as well as the Tweede Divisie period winners that qualify for the KNVB Beker first round because I couldn't get them linked last year.
I don't really have a date set yet but I'll have time next weekend so I'll probably try to do everything in one sit-through/weekend. I already have most of the KNVB rules/files collected anyways.
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3 hours ago, BMNJohn said:
Oh yeah, I found what was preventing teams from going on holidays. Season periods state that the season ends in July; there's no point in having a season period at all so you can just delete it. The second thing that could cause an issue is the Reserves rules under Netherlands->Reserves Rules category. The dates are problematic: the "Reserves Custom xml" has the league end on June 30th, and the regional divisions on June 1st. Both of which do not match with the main leagues as they almost all finish in early May or a little bit later for the teams in playoffs.
That's actually great news. Thanks for solving it. I'll update the file in the upcoming week and I'll release the final version then.
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13 hours ago, BMNJohn said:
@Slabbekoorn Any news on the project?
Given the KNVB's lackluster of decisions means that the file @Rediablo edited is the final file for FM17.
The KNVB has decided to not add more Jong teams to the piramid and all other changes are also disregarded. The only things they changed are the starting dates of the amateur divisions and if I change those then I'll recieve "season update" problems.
I'll probably make a new one for FM18, hopefully with the help of everyone like this year's version.
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With Achilles 29's relegation from the professional leagues to the amateurs comes the fact that they'll have to remove their Jong Achilles 29 team from the pyramid.
How in the world can I add this rule in my game files?
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On 2017-3-22 at 12:24, Reddiablo said:
Here it is. Have made a bunch of data adjustments. Transfers, but also contract renewals of eg. Schone, El Ahmadi as well as a few player changes and manager adjustments
FM Nederand FM2017 Update 3.0_B5E3FB65-AE9B-4896-967A-9EE8AD3879D5.fmf
This is the most recent file @chokosc
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The Addition of Dutch Lower Leagues (HELP thread)
in Advanced Rules Editing
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I'm going to try and make a league like you suggested @Tobcoach. I know that it is possible as long as stage 0 of the JL has 20 teams and I can probably seperate B-teams from first-teams in other stages. From there it is possible to qualify teams for different relegation playoff stages.