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Makes me want to raise it as a feature request... even though it's already something that should be working and it isnt...

Nope, his defensive is 4-3-3. His second is 4-2-3-1. And he is using it with good success.. Comparing it with Pep who never uses his second... I think its tied to Unai's first one being 4-2-4 frankly.

I don't even understand why it's so hard to fix this. I've looked at all the AI managed teams in the PL and it seems you are correct, they only start their first pref, Defensive or Attacking formation ( depending on the opposition ). However there is one exception and I am bolding it. Unai Emery has 4-2-4 Wide as first pref and he is the only one using his second formation 4-2-3-1 as the starting lineup when he faces a tough team. So.. It seems that it works only when AI's the first pref is 4-2-4.. For the others, no matter what is their first pref, 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, 5-3-2 etc... they never use their second pref no matter the opposition. I think we can safely say... its not working as intended

I mean how hard can it be to code... if team x loses 5 games in a row... use 2nd formation?

Wow... is that true SI? The way i see it... and thought it worked is that the AI managers have 2 primary formations they can use... For example if they underperform with one tactic they can switch to the other... You even maked sure we knew the AI have 2 formations when we looked on their profile page... And its even worse the issue is carried from last year... I know considered it a bug tbh

I know but in FM23 the 442 teams were not this exposed like in this version. Some teams concede double the goals like the other teams which have a DM... They should put 4-4-2 DM in the game since it's closer to IRL tactics

It seems there is an issue with 4-4-2. All AI teams in my save that play a 442 have the most goals conceded...

Id wish SI made a Brutal version for hardcore fans. One with real life injuries, players getting upset for being substituted on 85th minute, gegenpressing tactics making your mediocre team ravaged after 30minutes or playing 4-4-2 with 2 advance forwards making you concede 5 goals each game like it should happen.

If anything it's more realistic now with the stupid saudi money thrown all over the place.

I think they said it's released at 4pm GMT

Thats not right... a 4080 should have 0 issues with this game...

Nice, didn't know that.

It shows the starting formation not the formation a team finished with... I saw a bit of switching in my save, although it only happens after the 70 minute.

Intrestingly enough.. the only AI manager i could find that efficiently uses his second pref is Unay Emery... Maybe because his 1st in an attacking 4-2-4.. Just look how he efficiently uses his 4-2-3-1 only against top sides... Winning against Arsenal and Liverpool and drawing with Chelsea... Why wont Guardiola try to switch formations against some sides ? Especially City are 4th in my save....

Thanks for the answer. Frankly i don't see it as a data issue since, he's clearly set-up with the right formations, just that he doesn't seem to use the 4-2-3-1 at all which is a bit strange. Also, comparing your example, Thomasson seems to have 4-2-3-1 both on second and attacking formations, while Pep only has it as a second pref? Could be why Thomasson switches and Pep doesnt? Although a bit strange that if it's on the second slot , it's never used.

Can something be done so that the AI can use their second formation more often? For example Guardiola only plays his 4-3-3 but he is known to also often use a 4-2-3-1 with Alvarez behind Haaland. In FM he only starts a 4-3-3 although it's stated that he also prefers 4-2-3-1 but he never uses it at all?!

There were updates for previous versions... I crearly remember an update for FM21 beta which ruined my tactics... lol For FM23 they didnt though

Frankly , if i had access to the editor.. to remove the 4-4-2 from all the AI managers profiles with a formation that has a DM... The game would be a 9 out of 10.. Right now it really bugs me to see all those high results, mostly connected to 4-4-2

With a 4-4-2? Check AI and see the teams that are using 4-4-2 have always the most conceded goals

Ive seen AI using a DLP and mezalla in a 442... thats no cover for defense.. at all

Yeah... im linking most of the high scoring games to the AI flat 442. They should change it to 442 with 2 DM like its really used IRL.

Most of the high scoring games ( not all ) are related to AI's 4-4-2 in my save. That's what im able to piece out from watching some high scoring games... It seems the AI can't defend well in 4-4-2

Putting my save a bit on hold as other people stated here... The number of goals in some games is a bit too high compared to FM 23. I think FM 23 got the number of goals per game very close to IRL number...

I really like the skin this year. Much easier on the eyes than FM 23 and love the orange vibe to it.