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Brilliant. Enjoyed writing that score into my wallchart. That's when it's real
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1 minute ago, Ty said:
What about Maguire being in a position for a second phase of play? He can’t now, he’s been fouled to the ground.
You can’t two foot someone off the ball, why should you be able to foul in a different manner off the ball?
yeah I'm not saying I agree with it, I think the Maguire one should have been a pen. Just that it's the only possible rationale I could think of.
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the only rationale (other than incompetence or corruption) I can think of is that for the Maguire one he wasn't going to get near the ball anyway so the foul didn't affect the game. You can say that's not how the rules work but it's how a lot of refs choose to referee.
This one, the "foul" may have prevented the player from reaching the ball, so it's given.
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5 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said:
They did mention it during the Chelsea and Spurs game that was on whilst it was happening to be fair.The pundits in the studio from 3PM - 4PM before kick off didn’t mention it because it had already finished by then.
I’m not sure if the ceremony was always meant to be 2-3 hours before kick off or if BBC had the Chelsea/Spurs game booked in and didn’t like the optics of bumping a big women’s game for the opening ceremony so soon after the women won the Euros.
ah I see - thanks. I'd misunderstood.
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I don't really object to not showing the opening ceremony on BBC1 but I think they should have mentioned on BBC1 that coverage of the ceremony was on red button/website for viewers who wanted to see it, and given a brief outline of who was going to be performing etc. If they did mention it, I missed it.
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A off the cuff list of things from me, not repeating things I've seen already talked about
- Lothar Mattheus being absolutely imperious in the group stages in 1990, he made the Germans seem unbeatable all by himself even before you thought about all their other great players
- Rijkaard spitting at Voller, 1990, was shocking at the time
- Bulgaria and especially Stoichkov in 1994, starting with his goal v Mexico (which was a great game) he became my favourite player for a while - i think having no England at the tourney sparked me to take more interest in non-England games and deepened my enjoyment of all future WC as a result
- Maradona's swansong with a drug fuelled celebration into a camera in 1994 (tbf was a good goal)
- Graham Poll booking Simunic 3 times in 2006
- Tim Cahill's goal v Netherlands in 2014, my all time favourite WC goal, was robbed for goal of the tournament IMO
- 2014 again, when Germany scored 4 goals in 6 minutes to go 5-0 up after half an hour of the semi final v Brazil, the most incredible few minutes of football I've ever seen
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On 11/11/2022 at 13:53, Darius1998 said:
There's also France going on strike and falling apart spectacularly and New Zealand going unbeaten and contributing to Italy getting knocked out straight away.
as a Plymouth Argyle fan, watching Rory Fallon (who was with us at the time) jumping into Italian defenders and knocking them about, was great entertainment until he got brought off to avoid picking up a second yellow
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it's such a spew of nothingness "we can presume that the medical personnel in the household will have made whatever medical preparations are necessary" FGS
Armstrong and Miller did a parody of royal correspondents and they were pretty on the nose (not that anyone is quaffing champagne, but the uninformed speculation etc)
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this sort of speculation of the BBC is just totally distasteful. Surely have one bulletin letting the public know what we currently know, and then wait until near the announcement, unless they know an announcement is due in the next 15-30 minutes. We surely can't have 2-3 hours of people just raking over her health over the last year.
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9 hours ago, The Golden boy said:
The difference is that Charles has been groomed to be King since birth; George VI (Queen's father) was not being prepared from a young age to be King, and it only really became apparent he might end up as King during the later years of George V's reign.
totally agree, just saying that IMO The Queen still sees abdicating as wrong not just from a duty perspective but because it carries an emotional resonance for her
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1 hour ago, PaulHartman71 said:
I’m no fan of the royal family per se but I do find it quite grim how the last few years of her life have been made as miserable as possible by out of touch idiots in royal circles, the press and the establishment seemingly being unable to let an incredibly elderly woman just quietly abstain and retire.
I see it from almost the opposite perspective. I think it's more that she sees it as her absolute duty to keep on serving the country until she is completely unable to, and my guess is advisers and Charles etc have been attempting to lighten the load for a long time and only now is she starting to accept that she has to start letting go. I'm sure I've seen it written or said several times by people that would know first hand, that she absolutely would not countenance abdicating, partly because she sees it as a cowardly act after her Uncle did it and the impact it had on her father who never wanted to be King.
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20 hours ago, Marc Albrighton said:
I'm just not sure how the authorities didn't expect carnage, even if it turned out that there was none at least be prepared for it.
This is what I don't get. First major final in 55 years. Massive over demand and clear loads of people without tickets would be in the Wembley area "for the atmosphere". 8pm so lots of all day drinking going on. General atmosphere of release from COVID coming to a head. It was absolutely obvious that major trouble was possible. And even if it hadn't been properly anticipated before the day, from the reports I've read and eyewitness accounts I've heard it was clear from hours prior to kick off that trouble was brewing. I don't understand why the police and whoever is responsible for stadium security were not much, much better prepared.
btw in case it isn't clear this is not to deflect blame in any way from the **** that caused it all, just that unfortunately we know we have a lot of **** and we need to be prepared to deal with them.
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I think this team will get stronger. But honestly feel Southgate needs some sessions with the sports psychologists about his reluctance to make timely subs.
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Just a superb goal all round
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20 hours ago, EdL said:
Matterface is constantly reaching for a line to make him famous for years to come, but hes just really bad and gets it all wrong he went on about something like do whatever you want tomorrow at the end of the semi.
"If this comes off, you can do what you want tonight. You’ve had a terrible 16 months; kids you can stay up, don’t you dare go to bed. The rest of you, call your boss, you ain’t coming in in the morning. You deserve this. England deserve this. Feel it, ride it. All that outpouring of emotion is just 50 seconds away."
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This thread: 5.5 pages of pre-match comment and build-up, 17.5 pages of match, 18 pages of debating the penalty/"dark arts". And some people thought VAR would remove debates from football
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BBC because Pougatch and Matterface. Might flick about a bit depending on pundits though. I do enjoy an angry Roy Keane.
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Just catching up on the thread and Matterface chat...
Two moments for me. First when Sterling had a great chance and hit it straight into Schmeical's stomach. Matterface: "HOW ON *EARTH* HAS HE SAVED THAT?!?!" in a tone as if it was Banks v Pele. He couldn't have not saved it.
And then the most cringe worthy commentary of the euros so far, the spiel at the end (paraphrasing): "After the year you've had, you deserve this. Kids, you don't need to go to bed, folks, tell your boss you won't be in tomorrow.." and a load of similar guff I don't care to remember. You knew he felt he was making a commentary speech for the ages, in his mind speaking to and for all of England. Inane and pure ego masturbation.
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4 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said:
Yep. It's a soft penalty, but we see them constantly given, and VAR doesn't overturn them. This is literally run of the mill stuff. It's also entirely in keeping with how last night was reffed
exactly this! I still don't think it was a penalty but I must have seen at least 100 like that given. It's hardly the worst decision ever or some conspiracy evidence. It's also certainly subjective enough for VAR not to overturn. Furthermore although I agree our commentators & pundits often peddle the "english players don't dive (as much)", I don't think many fans think that, we're well aware that our players started dangling legs, exaggerating contract, stepping across to draw fouls etc ages ago. I admit I don't like it but it's the modern game.
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I don't really get what some people want the England fans here to say. Most people on here have agreed it was a soft pen or not a pen. Some (of the England fans) criticised Sterling. I even said I couldn't cheer the goal.
But the reality is soft pens get given all the time, Sterling didn't do anything that many other players wouldn't, we've got knocked out of tournaments by bad reffing decisions before. In addition we were dominating the game at that point and seemed highly likely to score at any time, it's not like it was a smash and grab. You accept the good fortune and move on.
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I actually couldn't cheer that, feel the Danes have been robbed
edit to add: wouldn't bother me against Germany, Italy etc, but feel sorry for the Danes given what they've battled through
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not a pen for me, very very soft
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I'd have Foden on for Mount and Hendo for Rice or Phillips. I think Southgate is brilliant but his reluctance to use subs is frustrating and has been since WC2018
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I thought Kane caught the player in the tackle before anyway. No penalty fair for me
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Match Once - Spain vs Costa Rica - ITV1 4pm GMT live from the Al Thumama Stadium
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Ferran Torres fuming, he could have had the golden boot already if he'd played the full game.