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3 minutes ago, The Golden boy said:
I think they (both networks) have picked the group games they're going to show on the respective channels before the tournament began and aren't going to change the channels they're on despite the importance of the game.
ah that would make some sort of sense I guess, maybe some commercial arrangements etc are affected by what's shown on what channel (I know BBC doesnt have ads here but its overseas feeds may) so they can't change them.
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1 minute ago, Pukey said:
"That discussion is for another day" after spending, what, more than half an hour discussing it?! Hahahaha, it's so bad it's genuinely incredible.
If FIFA haven't produced the "definitive still" by the next ITV match, if Pougatch is hosting then based on tonight I genuinely wouldn't be that surprised for him to open with "Like you, we were hoping to have images of Japan's winning goal against Germany yesterday by now. Unfortunately the wait continues" or some such nonsense
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1 minute ago, m_fenton said:
It's obviously close, but literally every angle I've seen looks at least "probably in" at worst.
100%. Sounness saying people looking at that still ITV showed that was above and in front of the line, and saying everyone would be saying that looks out
not to me, I think it looks in when you factor in the angle and ball curvature.
I think what we're really seeing are broadcasters annoyed they haven't got the pictures they want to show, and wrongly thinking everyone at home is waiting on tenterhooks to see them.
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Banging on about not showing us the controversial goal line question. FGS I think most of us want a bit more focus on the achievement of the Japanese rather than this
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thank god, I was seriously worried a terrible offside decision was going to rob Costa Rica there
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A ball that is exactly on the line would look slightly out from the angle we saw it from I think. I assume they have additional angles
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Surely it's obvious why offsides sometimes get referred to the on-field ref - because there is subjectivity around whether an offside player is interfering with play and that is for the on-field ref to decide on, not VAR. Don't see why Jenas and the commentator are so confused
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39 minutes ago, enigmatic said:
It was an interesting decision too. Offside player wasn't challenging for the ball or affecting any opponents at all, defender intentionally played the ball because an onside player was challenging for it
Feels like the semi-automated bit of the new system is match officials making it up as they go along.
totally agree, was a perfectly good goal for me.
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1 minute ago, Rob1981 said:
Christ, Pougatch is infuriating. Basically just making his own long winded opinion into a flaky question, but in a way that the pundit can’t possibly disagree with him.
yep, every time. He is so smug with it as well, clearly thinks the public need to hear his football opinions rather than the guests.
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For me it's totally irrelevant whether the arm prevents a good attacking opportunity or not.
Handballs should only be given IMO when it's either truly deliberate, or the defender has deliberately made themselves bigger by holding or throwing their arms in a deliberately unnatural position.
I don't care if arms stop balls going into goals, no penalty without some kind of intention is my very strong preference. I hate seeing defenders running around in the box with their arms behind their back.
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I think that's as close as I've heard Walton come to disagreeing with a decision.
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2 minutes ago, Andrew_ said:
Just realised today was the last of the 10am games. Sad times.
I was thinking that earlier. Although a lot of them haven't been great, as someone not working at the moment it's been fun to get up at 9.30 and have a game to look forward to
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Few things in football as pleasing as a soft penalty being missed/saved. Brilliant double save
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yeah not a pen for me, the contact is nowhere near enough to bring him down, he feels it and decides to go down.
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Just now, Chase Failey said:
He's put some effort in there trying to apply a positive spin on the game tbf
it's basically exactly the same interview he gave after the 0-0 v Scotland at the Euros
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Gareth has basically said in interviews before that in his eyes tournament football is first and foremost about not losing.
I don't wholly disagree with his dourly pragmatic approach but he does stick to it *so* rigidly. We were crying out for changes either at half time or at the very least on around 55 minutes when it was evident whatever tweaks and what was said at half time, hadn't changed the game (if anything USA were even more on top).
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it is rightly offside but goalie is never saving a deflection like that anyway when he's already diving the other way, so unlucky in a way
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why do players never (ok, rarely) get booked any more for stopping a quick free kick? it's now totally standard practice to just stand right in front of the ball until your team is defensively regrouped, or (as then) to even tussle with the ball to stop them taking it (I realise on that occasion the ref wasn't actually ready either but still, the players intention was plain)
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Crikey this discussion going on now is far too kind to Wales. "With another ref it could have been different", "if this goes in it would have been a different game" etc.
Wales were utterly awful and Iran absolutely deserved their win
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Just now, Weiry said:
I’m not Iranian but even I did a few fist pumps after that goal!
me too, this has been a brilliant watch
I mean you can't hold a nation responsible for something someone says, but ever since Robbie Savage said "Macclesfield would beat Iran" I've been hoping for this
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4 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:
Great finish but Serbian center back ***** out of the challenge there
yeah looked to me as if he'd have taken it in the face if he hadn't ducked away
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Piers Morgan operating VAR today
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22 minutes ago, Lucas said:
BBC treating Canada like farmers tonight really annoyed me. Best team in CONCACAF qualifiers, very organised with a number of players playing in top divisions in Europe.
I wasn't surprised that they were competitive but BBC thought they'd roll over. No doubt USA gets the same treatment on Friday too.
same as Matterface with Japan. Going on as if they were some plucky no hopers when they've got to the last 16 is it three times in recent tournaments? it's just really lazy. Them beating Germany in my eyes is a slight to moderate surprise, not a major shock.
Pougatch is the absolute worst though.
Also can't stand Clinton Morrison who 5 live use a lot. Murphy isn't great but I'd take him over Keown and Hartson, personal taste though, they are much of a muchness.
I get frustrated when we're presented with a panel of all British pundits for games between non British nations. It's much better when the pundits have at least a link to the countries playing, and preferably a deep knowledge of their players, tactics and background going in to the tournament. Instead we get generic comments like "we know their forwards are always dangerous" or "they'll be looking to such-and-such (who played/plays in the Premier League) to make a difference". Basically the level of insight you'd get from a random in the pub.
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take it with a pinch of salt but I like checking out the fivethirtyeight predictions, they now have Germany at 33% chance of qualifying for the knockouts. Japan 75%.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-world-cup-predictions/
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Ghana vs Uruguay & South Korea vs Portugal, 3PM BST
in 2022 World Cup Forum
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Would absolutely love Suarez to get a second yellow for dissent in a minute. The scenes would be epic.