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Mr U Rosler
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A strange situation occurs non league when taking over newly promoted teams from non playable leagues. Approx 80% of the legacy squad will regress heavily, I've had players with 55 CA drop to 40 CA in 2 years, multiple examples. Only 2 out of my squad have held their ability, non have improved. Not sure if this situation is unique.
Thankfully newgens who get first team experience can improve rapidly. So far players left in youth teams do not improve at all.
I'm doing a youth only challenge, so it adds a layer of difficulty as you try and get young players up to speed before legacy players regress to the point of being useless, about 2 seasons.
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Goalkeepers shouldn't be able to get 40 goals a season by sticking them on the near post for corners. (Without conceding many on the counter)
We're essentially 10+ years into the development cycle of the same game, set pieces have barely evolved in this time, I find it hard to understand how this can happen.
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SI have acknowledged there is a bug and are working on it.
I don't believe its related to the pace of development generally or the age range for development but relates specifically to entire lower league squads losing attributes under certain circumstances. Likely related to poor facilities although i personally suspect there is a league reputation issue in some instances.
I have started another Academy Challenge, this time with Stockport, i'm up into League 2 after first season and will be pumping cash into the training facilities which I hope circumvents both the above issues. Will be tracking the progress of my youth prospects very closely.
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Deal of the day https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/ideapad/500-series/IdeaPad-5-Pro-16ACH6/p/82L5005BUK
GPU is a bit weak, but fine for FM. CPU is a thug, great screen, quiet fans. Perfect FM laptop.
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9 minutes ago, HUNT3R said:
It's the one they wanted, since that was the one you reported, so it will definitely be useful. I posted at the bottom of page 2 (of this thread) but you may have missed it.
Ok, will upload that.
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1 minute ago, HUNT3R said:
I know. You initially reported an issue with development with a screenshot of a player at Stalybridge which, I assume, is a different save.
Ah, you want that one as well?
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2 minutes ago, HUNT3R said:
Thanks. It's a pity it's not the same save as the issue you reported, but this should still help SI.
Hi, it is the same saves. Day 1 and 6 months later.
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16 minutes ago, HUNT3R said:
As I've posted earlier in the thread - can you upload your save (you did post in the thread in the bug tracker) so that SI can take a look?
Done
Its in the beta sub forum.
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Started a new youth challenge with Scarborough, played 6 months, here are the CA on the 1st day vs after 20 league games.
A JACKSON 52 TO 48. -4 POINTS
N CARTMAN 57 TO 52. -5 POINTS
K WELEDJI 54 TO 53. -1 POINTS
L MALONEY 52 TO 50 -2 POINTS
J CADMAN 41 TO 36. -5 POINTS
B GOODA 52 TO 49. -3 POINTS
D COGILL 56 TO 54 - 2 points
T HUDSON 50 TO 50
W THORNTON 52 TO 53 +1
J DAY 59 TO 54 -5
So after a promotion to a higher division, having no coaches to a full coaching team, the whole team is getting worse and worse instead of better.
How is that not broken?
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Started a new youth challenge with Scarborough, played 6 months, here are the CA on the 1st day vs after 20 league games.
A JACKSON 52 TO 48. -4 POINTS
N CARTMAN 57 TO 52. -5 POINTS
K WELEDJI 54 TO 53. -1 POINTS
L MALONEY 52 TO 50 -2 POINTS
J CADMAN 41 TO 36. -5 POINTS
B GOODA 52 TO 49. -3 POINTS
D COGILL 56 TO 54 - 2 points
T HUDSON 50 TO 50
W THORNTON 52 TO 53 +1
J DAY 59 TO 54 -5
So after a promotion to a higher division, having no coaches to a full coaching team, the whole team is getting worse and worse instead of better.
How is that not broken?
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5 minutes ago, thomas_e said:
Maybe try the challenge outside the UK? I would guess a crappy laptop stuggles quite a bit extra with so many leagues loaded as you need in the UK.
Good point. In fact i loaded some extra league's to flesh out the game world, stripping it back to just the English leagues would help.
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I’m going to admit defeat with Stalybridge. No progress in 6 seasons, invested season after season into some talented youngsters 50% of which just got worse. Zero development from anyone left in the youth teams, so no way forward that I can see.
I’m tempted to try with a higher reputation team with crowds that might potentially support investments into training facilities and with a stronger starting squad (in particular a goal keeper) that might get you a run at the play-off’s.
Promotion into the National League might allow you to go full time and from there I can see a path forward.
The fact that I have to run this challenge on a crappy laptop whereas I could do Dafuge’s Challenge on my Xbox with far faster processing is also a factor (need to run ‘full fat’ FM for this challenge).
Either way, it’s a great thread and I’ll be following with interest.
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Ah, i see.
I think not all attributes are treated equally and their is weighting in terms of their impact on CA.
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3 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said:
Did you look at the CA and PA of the player to check that.
From my testing, I do feel there is more change in the attributes, and there maybe things deeper under the hood my results don't show.
Editor use is banned in the challenge and disabled on start up of the save.
Any CA changes will surely manifest in the player attributes?
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In the interest of balance, I have had a couple of players make decent progress.
I guess its the uncertainty of who will and who won't improve with seemingly no rhyme or reason, versus they pretty much all will improve in previous versions.
More realistic, not wholly against this change, might restart with a slightly higher reputation team.
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14 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said:
Just as a point of interest, when you say gone backwards, do you mean attribute wise or CA wise looking under the hood?
With my current test, which is proving to be a bit of a PITA, looking at only the attributes, 2 players who I picked did go backwards in terms of attributes, but not CA over the first season or two. Both the players were being re-trained so think that plays a large role in that happening. Once they were retrained to natural, they settled to a more general slight up and down on various attributes.
Also as an interesting point, out of my 4 players, one player had a sharp and sudden drop in Professionalism and Ambition from 11 and 10 to 7 and 5. He was on that was being retrained and in the third season had a single point CA drop. The other retrained player was the only other one to have an Ambition of 10 or over and he slow CA increases over time, although his Attribute decreases have not reverted back yet.
This a good example. Lost 15 attribute points from age 16 to 18. Played over 100 first team games in this time. He lost more points the next season despite his personality changing to 'professional'.
Corners -1 Composure +2 Work rate -1
Crossing -2 Concentration -1 Pace -1
Finishing -1 Decisions -1 Stamina +1
Longshot -2 Determination -1
Marking -1 Flair +1
Penalties -1 Leadership - 1
Tackling -2 Off the ball +1
Technique -1 Teamwork -1
Attribute Changes
Negative = -19
Positive = 4
NEGATIVE -15 CHANGE!!
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Anecdotally, in my youth only challenge my 2 highest potential players have all gone backwards, and that is after 4 seasons and 2 seasons respectively as FIRST CHOICE, FIRST TEAM players, 100+ first team games. I have a 3rd high potential player making zero progress with first team exposure. Anyone left in the youth squads makes zero progress.
Yes, my facilities are rubbish, but playing in the first team would normally be enough for players to progress. Not saying this is realistic or right, but it makes youth challenges largely unviable this year imo (unless your a sadist!).
Appreciate only a tiny minority play the game this way, not sure if there are implications for the game world in longer saves, probably not as youth products coming from big clubs with good facilities will no doubt succeed.
Guess i'll have to come up with a new challenge.
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46 minutes ago, WhiteCat33 said:
Apparently yesterday someone posted a bug on this:
SI Commented:
I think I'll comment and offer up my save file. 11 seasons should be sufficient for them to see if its an unintended issue or purposeful increased difficulty.
I've added to that thread.
There is a hint in there that they are away of an issue, they need to be otherwise 20 years in the world is full of very poor footballers.
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Basically its an ideapad gaming 3, with a better quality screen and less fan noise. I think the 1650 is lower watt than standard but still be great for FM.
Very tempted myself.
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Couple more;
2x 1st choice central midfielders 2 year development. Mixed training
Stevenson
Crossing +1 Leadership +1
Marking +1 Off the ball +2
Tackling +1 Vision +1
Anticipaton +1 Work Rate +2
Composure +1 Acceleration +1
Decisions +1 Agility -1
Flair +1 Balance +1
Stamina +2 Strength +1
Attribute Changes
Negative = 1
Positive = 18
Poole
Corners -1 Composure +2 Work rate -1
Crossing -2 Concentration -1 Pace -1
Finishing -1 Decisions -1 Stamina +1
Longshot -2 Determination -1
Marking -1 Flair +1
Penalties -1 Leadership - 1
Tackling -2 Off the ball +1
Technique -1 Teamwork -1
Attribute Changes
Negative = -19
Positive = 4
NEGATIVE -15 CHANGE!!
Stevenson looks great.
POOLE IS A DISASTER SETTING ALARM BELLS RINGING. HE'S LOST 15 ATTRIBUTE POINTS BETWEEN AGE 16 AND 18 BEING FIRST CHOICE MIDFIELDER WITH A FAIRLY DETERMINED PERSONALITY!
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I have a few more players with 100+ appearances. I'll take a look at those when i get time.
It would be handy if I could find 1 who hasn't been disciplined much and had the increases in determination & work rate, but i do like giving out a good bollocking.
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18 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:
Would be interested in hearing more about this. Maybe I have missed the boat on this.
Fining for poor match performance. sub 6.3 rating.
Which gets me thinking, have the decent increases in work rate & determination come at the cost of other (technical) developments?
Or in other words is development rate somehow capped and work rate & determination gobbled up a chunk of available PA or even forced the reductions elsewhere like natural fitness.
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2 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:
Has he suffered many injury problems? Is that linked to Natural Fitness or does it not work like that?
Zero injuries. I know that would impact bravery, not sure about natural fitness.
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Development Bug ?
My man after 3 years as first choice striker, 120+ games. Training as advanced forward.
Attribute changes
Crossing -4 Anticipation +2 Acceleration +1
Dribbling -1 Composure +3 Agility +2
Free Kicks +1 Concentration -1 Balance +2
Heading -1 Determination +5 Jumping +1
Longshots +1 Flair +1 Natural Fitness -3
Long Throw +1 Leadership +2 Pace +1
Marking -1 Off the ball +2 Stamina +3
Penalties +1 Positioning -2 Strength -1
Vision +1
Workrate + 3
Leaving out improvements in Workrate & Stamina as these were the result of disciplinary action we have;
Negative points = 14
Positive points = 25
Difference = +11
With my basic training facilities I’m not sure what to think, mentals & physicals have improved, technical have regressed.
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