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MRMExplicacin.thumb.png.f5c430e671380d000a5494ab95782939.pngMexico Reimagined by Motobaka is what I think the football pyramid should look like in Mexico.

 

The MXs

Liga MX is the top tier league with 20 teams and 3 relegations.

Liga Expansión MX has 24 teams with the first 2 gaining promotion to Liga MX and teams 4 to 6 play a promotional playoff for the 3rd spot in Liga Mx. 3 Teams are relegated to Liga A MX

Liga A MX has 24 teams with the first 2 gaining promotion to Liga Expansión MX and teams 4 to 6 play a promotional playoff for the 3rd spot in Liga Expansión MX. 4 teams are relegated to Liga B MX

Liga B MX has 24 teams with the first 3 gaining promotion to Liga A MX and teams 5 to 7 play a promotional playoff for the 3rd spot in Liga A MX. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Nacional

Copa Quetzalcóatl is a cup with all teams from the MXs

 

The Cardinals

Liga Nacional has 24 teams with the first 1 gaining promotion to Liga B MX and teams 2 to 7 play a promotional playoff for the 2nd spot in Liga B MX. 4 teams are relegated to Liga Nacional Norte or Liga Nacional Sur

División Nacional Norte/Sur is divided into two leagues. Liga Nacional Norte and Liga Nacional Sur each have 24 teams with their respective champion promoted to Liga Nacional and a second spot for the promotional playoffs that consists of teams ranked 2 to 7. There are also 4 teams relegated from each league.

División Cardinal is divided into 4 leagues: Liga Cardinal Occidente, Liga Cardinal Sur, Liga Cardinal Norte and Liga Cardinal Oriente. Each league has 24 teams with their respective champion promoted either Liga Nacional Norte or Liga Nacional Sur and a second spot for the promotional playoffs that consists of teams ranked 2 to 7. There are also 4 teams relegated from each league.

Copa Kukulcán is a cup with all the teams from The Cardinals.

 

The Regionals

División Regional is divided into 8 leagues:

Liga Regional Noroeste: 20 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Cardinal Norte and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Cardinal Norte. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Noroeste B.

Liga Regional Noreste: 18 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Cardinal Norte and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Cardinal Norte. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Noroeste B.

Liga Regional Occidente: 24 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Cardinal Occidente and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Cardinal Occidente. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Occidente B.

Liga Regional Oriente: 24 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Cardinal Oriente and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Cardinal Oriente. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Oriente B.

Liga Regional Centronorte: 20 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Cardinal Occidente and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Cardinal Occidente. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Centronorte B.

Liga Regional Centrosur: 24 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Cardinal Oriente and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Cardinal Oriente. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Centrosur B.

Liga Regional Suroeste: 16 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Cardinal Sur and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Cardinal Sur.

Liga Regional Sureste: 16 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Cardinal Sur and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Cardinal Sur.

 

División Regional B is divided into 6 leagues:

Liga Regional Noroeste B: 16 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Noroeste and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Noroeste.

Liga Regional Noreste B: 12 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Noreste and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Noreste.

Liga Regional Occidente B: 24 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Occidente and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Occidente. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Occidente C.

Liga Regional Oriente B: 18 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Oriente and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Oriente. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Oriente C.

Liga Regional Centronorte B: 18 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Centronorte and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Centronorte. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Centronorte C.

Liga Regional Centrosur B: 24 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Centrosur and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Centrosur. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Centrosur C.

División Regional C is divided into 4 leagues:

Liga Regional Occidente C: 24 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Occidente B and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Occidente B. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Occidente D.

Liga Regional Oriente C: 18 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Oriente B and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Oriente B. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Oriente D.

Liga Regional Centronorte C: 16 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Centronorte B and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Centronorte B.

Liga Regional Centrosur C: 20 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Centrosur B and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Centrosur B. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Centrosur D.

 

División Regional D is divided into 3 leagues:

Liga Regional Occidente D: 22 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Occidente C and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Occidente C.

Liga Regional Oriente D: 15 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Oriente C and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Oriente C.

Liga Regional Centrosur D: 20 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Centrosur C and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Centrosur C. 2 teams are relegated to Liga Regional Centrosur E.

 

División Regional E is only composed of Liga Regional Centrosur E with 20 Teams, champion is promoted to Liga Regional Centrosur D and 2 to 7 battle in a promotional playoff for a second place in Liga Regional Centrosur D.

 

Copa Independencia is a cup with all the teams from The Regionals.

 

Copa MX

Copa MX includes all teams from the Mexican Pyramid. All teams are given a region. Mexico is conveniently divided in 8 regions. This allows for a very peculiar cup system. All teams from a region compete in their respective cups. Winners from each region then compete for their cardinal region and winners from each cardinal region are then divided into north and south. The winner of that match is then crowned the Copa MX champion.

Copa Camepeón de Campeones

The winner of the Copa MX and Liga MX play this cup.

 

Notes

B teams may not gain promotion from Liga Nacional but the B teams already in a higher division may stay there but never get promoted. If relegated, they may not go back to their previous division.

 

Update:

All teams now have a city and a Stadium.

All Stadiums now have coordinates.

Liga MX history updated thanks to NathanaelEKH.

I was able to verify but some problems still persist. I have been moving schedules about but have not been able to make it work by verifying all leagues at once. The way I managed to verify the file was by verifying individual leagues when a problem came up.

I’ll keep trying to figure out what the problem is. Any suggestions are welcome.

 

Mexico Reimagined by Motobaka.fmf

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Don´t know what happened, thanks for the catch. I remember doing a maximum of over 21 from division 5 and under, but don’t know why I ended up adding 33 as max age thing. Anyway. Updated the post without that restriction.

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Thanks for the help!

I have already made the change so it should be working properly.

Also, Liga Regional del Occidente C had not registered the name changes and it appeared to be blank on the save. I managed to make it reflect the changes so it should be ok now.

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hace 3 minutos, themodelcitizen dijo:

Two-legged semis, finals are a one-off at Wembley I think? Might be fun if you put it at a random top stadium (maybe even include Vegas, Phoenix, San Diego etc :D)

Yes, that seems to be the format. I´m basically just coping the rules from the English league.  I’m thinking of making the one from the second division the national stadium and for the lower divisions using the Ask Competition Neutral Exclude Home and see how that works.

Including American stadiums might also be fun.

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hace 5 horas, NathanaelEKH dijo:

just an idea, same as England, could you make another cup for lower teams? Like Carabao Cup, something like that?

Im really enjoyin this database <3 

Glad to hear that you are enjoying it. And thanks for the help.

I've been thinking a lot about this. I used to have a Copa Mx that covered everyone. Then a Quetzalcoatl Cup for everyone in the first four divisions and a Kukulcan Cup for the rest of the divisions. Also Regional cups. Every team is given an extinct secondary division that corresponds to their region. That allows for an easier way to make Regional Cups. My intention for this file was to make the winner of each Regional Cup then go to their respctive Cardinal Cup like quarter finals. Then the winner moved to either a National North or National South Cup (semifinals) and the final be the Copa Mx.

The Regional format for Copa Mx is still compatible with Quetzalcoatl/Kukulcan cups. So maybe have both. 

As of today I haven't decided, so any suggestion is welcomed. 

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hace 18 horas, Vakama2619 dijo:

In non league it's 1 leg and hosted at the home team stadium from step 6 lower, EFL and Non League are the only ones at Wembley

Thanks, made some changes to the file to further reflect the promotional playoffs. Haven't checked in game. I'm trying to figure some lower leagues stuff at the moment but will eventually get to it. 

I'm curios to see how the Ask competition neutral exclude home thing goes. 

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Two slight concerns at the moment.

 

Not too sure if I'm happy with the amount of money but I think I really like the money being given to the team after each match for win or tie.

What I did was to get a percentage of points made by the looser of Premier and Championship from 2015 onwards.

Then according to Wikipedia looser of Premier makes 2.2M. So I divided 2.2M by the average points from the loosing team to get the amount that should be paid for a point. That is the money given for a tie and a win is that times 3. 

Same process for Championship but taking into account that first place should win less than last team at Premier. 

Since we know how much money the first place at Premier makes and that there is a difference of +4 more teams at Championship we can calculate how much a team at the bottom of the Championship should be making so we divide that by the average points. 

With that info in hand we can then scale it down according to the reputation assigned by the game to the Premier League and Liga Mx.

The second concern is that at the moment teams from lower divisions have squad restrictions for the amount of players over 21. There are no loans restrictions. And I thought I had a restriction for foreign players but I might have forgotten to put in place. I might just allow them to have foreign players as they almost certainly can't afford them but can be loaned from bigger teams. 

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hace 32 minutos, themodelcitizen dijo:

They have a teams option for "best teams in local region" that seems to work now. But if your secondary divisions work the same way that's good too

I used that option some time ago but discovered @ZahnZee videos at YouTube and the Seconday Divisions thing just made sense. This way you get all of them. 

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I’ve been thinking about how to make the cups and detected an error in Escudo MX that has been corrected.

 

So far this is what I think I’ll do.

Copa Quetzalcóatl – Includes all MX divisions (First four divisions).

Copa Kukulcán – Includes all National and Cardinal divisions (Seven leagues).

Copa de la Independencia – Includes all Regional leagues. (22 leagues).

Escudo MX - Winner of Copa MX Vs. Winner of Liga MX

 

Copa MX

Stage 1

Name of the Stage: Copa Regional

Copa Regional del Noroeste

Copa Regional del Noreste

Copa Regional del Occidente

Copa Regional del Oriente

Copa Regional del Centronorte

Copa Regional del Centrosur

Copa Regional del Suroeste

Copa Regional del Sureste

All teams are assigned to a region. Each region plays knockout rounds until we have a winner.

 

Stage 2

Name of the Stage: Copa Cardinal

Copa Cardinal del Occidente – Winner of Copa Regional del Occidente Vs. Winner of Copa Regional del Centronorte.

Copa Cardinal del Norte - Winner of Copa Regional del Noroeste Vs. Winner of Copa Regional del Noreste.

Copa Cardinal del Sur - Winner of Copa Regional del Suroeste Vs. Winner of Copa Regional del Sureste.

Copa Cardinal del Oriente - Winner of Copa Regional del Oriente Vs. Winner of Copa Regional del Centrosur.

 

Stage 3

Name of the Stage: Copa Nacional

Copa Nacional del Norte – Winner of Copa Cardinal del Occidente Vs. Winner of Copa Cardinal del Norte.

Copa Nacional del Sur – Winner of Copa Cardinal del Oriente Vs. Winner of Copa Cardinal del Sur.

 

Stage 4

Final of Copa MX – Winner of Copa Nacional del Norte Vs. Winner of Copa Nacional del Sur.

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Couples suggestions: rather than Escudo MX (which is a bit awkward phrasing in spanish) you could use Campeón de Campeones which was the old Mexican supercup.

As far as age limits in lower divisions. Tercera (lowest tier irl currently) has had an U23 age limit for years, and it's very common for teams to field a lot of underage players. In case you want to take that into account.

Also wondering if you reactivated defunct teams at all, would be very cool to have Veracruz included at some tier in the structure.

File looks great regardless, will definitely give it a try!

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hace 6 horas, haaaaaa dijo:

Couples suggestions: rather than Escudo MX (which is a bit awkward phrasing in spanish) you could use Campeón de Campeones which was the old Mexican supercup.

As far as age limits in lower divisions. Tercera (lowest tier irl currently) has had an U23 age limit for years, and it's very common for teams to field a lot of underage players. In case you want to take that into account.

Also wondering if you reactivated defunct teams at all, would be very cool to have Veracruz included at some tier in the structure.

File looks great regardless, will definitely give it a try!

Campeón de Campeones was my first choice and it was changed last year somewhere around the way. I'll gladly change it back. 

Age limits start at the regional levels.

Veracurz is in Liga de Expansión Mx.

 

 

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Thanks, I'm about to finish adding the coordinates for the stadiums. And was planning on adding the history for the titles. I think it has to do with scheduling. Will get to it probably by tomorrow and post an update. Thanks for sharing the file.

 

I was wondering what would happen if I modified titles history. Would it give a cup to the teams that won it? If so I guess I'll have to change the cup history from the teams. 

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Update:

All teams now have a city and a Stadium.

All Stadiums now have coordinates.

Liga MX history updated thanks to NathanaelEKH.

I was able to verify but some problems still persist. I have been moving schedules about but have not been able to make it work by verifying all leagues at once. The way I managed to verify the file was by verifying individual leagues when a problem came up.

I’ll keep trying to figure out what the problem is. Any suggestions are welcome.

Mexico Reimagined by Motobaka.fmf

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Hey, I'm just curious what issues are still hanging around, the concept here is absolutely amazing. One issue I have currently is that I've got teams switching between regional leagues, however it's likely caused by another file I have loaded

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Scheduling issues when validating is the know thing that I haven’t gotten around to fix.

The regional divisions should get teams promoted/relegated correctly at the regional level. Once they move up it must decide what to do depending on the number of relegated teams assigned to a regional division.

Here is an image of how it decides.

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I’m doing a Fictional Mexican League at the moment, and I think it will help me get a better understanding on the scheduling part (I´ve also been reviewing how the game manages the schedule for the English Championship).  

I’ve found a few other things I would like to check more thoroughly like a team that does not have the proper regional divisions assigned to it and other minor things like incorrect stadium names and the like.

Also, the Leagues Cup should not be able to get enough teams due to the Champions of Champions cup not being there, but it does get them or at least it hasn’t given me that error while it does give me that error in the Fictional League. So, I’ll look into that as well.

I almost forgot, the prize money must change, I’m much more satisfied with the way I’m managing it on the Fictional League so I’ll probably change that here too. Something a bit more like what is done in the English Pyramid. Also, the money for the cups is better at the Fictional League so I guess I’ll just copy it over to this one once I’m done.  

 

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