Player demands vs realism.

[yau]

Let's talk about player demands realism.

example 1:  Crystal Palace finishing second in the Premier League in first season. At the same time Aston Villa get's relegated. At transfer window Aston Villa make bid for a Crystal Palace star player Tyrick Mitchell. After rejecting bid, Mitchell get furious because he wants to join Aston Villa. He prefers to play in Championship than in the Champions League. Does it looks realistic? Reputation mechanism have to take into consideration extreme reputation changes.

After this i get upset and just start a new save, but things just get even worst.

example 2: Athletic Bilbao. This is special case, because Bilbao players are ofen very loyal, and transfers of star Athletic players are extremly rare.

Spoiler

Departures of their stars in the last 20 years:

Kepa to Chelsea 18/19  /Athletic finished 9

Laporte to City 17/18  /Athletic finished 12

Ander to United 14/15  /Athletic finished 8

Llorente to Juventus 13/14  /Athletic finished 4

Javi Martinez to Bayern 12/13  /Athletic finished 14

Del Horno to Chelsea 05/06  /Athletic finished 14

All those players leave Bilbao for top clubs in their leagues and one of the best in Europe, while only Javi leave Bilbao when they qualified to europan competitions.

case 1: Raul Garcia

Raul was earning over 8 mln per year from Bilbao in hes last year of contract and he refuse to sing new one for less than 9mln/year. In the same year he agrees sign 1mln/year deal from PSG. 

case 2: This is very common over the years. Most of the boards prefer to pay wages for the players who wont get any playing time over selling them cheap. Athletic board was more interesed to pay 4mln/year to Yuri than sell him for 1.2mln. They demand 1.4mln offer. So 0.2mln euro make a difference worth 5.2mln.

case 3:  Contract one of the coachs of Baskonia (3rd team, non league) was going to ends in 6 months. Hes salary is 60k/year, and now he demands...1,5mln. 25x wage rise:)

case 4: Athletic on their way to Champions League. Inaki and Sancet bids.

After half of the season I just smash the league. We are currently unbeaten after 15 matches with only 1 draw and 14 wins, 46-6 in terms of goals. We are on the easy way to won a league, at least to play in Champions League but after a bids for my two key players game are going to be way harder.

So Manchester United (currently outside CL spot) make a bid for Inaki, who instantly get upset after I reject first bit. Wole team stand for him and want me to sell our best goalscorer for less than hes market value. Morale of the wole team dropped drastically. Similar story with Sanced bid. So I got 2 ways: 1. Sell every player who get a bid and try to play with reservs or reject offerts and try to play with angry players  with no morale.

It is not realistic to me that Inaki or Sancet wants to join United in the middle of the great season, but even if it is, the reason they wanna leave is ridiculous. They want to play in Champions League and in actual club they don't see any chances to play there in near future.

Would be really great if players could just see table in the real time, before making stupid demands. 

I don't understand why every player who's not first choice or v.deep reserve don't wan't to extend contract without 1.5 - 2x wage rise and to be key player (even when they are happy with their actual playing time). This is far away from realism. It's easier to sign new contract of first team player with similar wage than a reserve player with 1.5x rise. Same story with juniors. Literally every young boy without enough talent to be part of first team wants over 300-400k per year and after their contract expires they agree to train in new team for like 100k or similar to their previous contract. 

 

 

 

 

 

[kevaggel]

What you are describing is so true, FM is treating different the player from the AI.

[yau]

update (one month left to end of the season one):

Alex Berenguer as a happy reserve player wants to rise hes wage up to over 3,5mln per year from 1,2/y and status to be key player.

another left winger - Iker Muniain also wants 4mln from around 2,2mln. I cant afford this so I put him on the transfer list, but hes demands are so high that noone wants him even for free.

 

[yau]

Carlos Gurpegi - manager of Basconia (3rd team; non league) demand wage rise from 30k to 1,37 mln xD

[FourFiveOne]

Things like these make me not want to play FM anymore before such things get fixed. Its so unrealistic and realism is key for me