Absen Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) This is actually my second thread in a short period of time, but I promise it's not spam – I now have a separate issue, and I realized I need some more “holistic” help with this game! This is quite a lengthy post (soz), but I think the context is important – if you only want to feed back on the tactic(s), they’re at the bottom. My situation is thus: I'm playing as Rushall Olympic in a rough approximation of the dafuge challenge. My first real bash at FM in quite a few years. Got promoted out of VNN in my third season and then fluked a spot in the playoffs of the VNL in my first season there with a reliable 4141 tactic of the following: AF(a) IW(s) W(a) AP(s) CM/Mez(a) BWM(d) FB(a) CD(d) CD(c) FB(s) GK(d) I lost in the first round, but I thought it showed the two leagues were close in quality – by adding the right personnel I could make some good progress. That was my experience in FM’s previous; the first two leagues were normally a breeze, but League 1 or 2 was where you needed to hunker down and build up for a bit. Unfortunately the opposite has happened. The season after I only narrowly avoided relegation. Admittedly a couple of my signings were duffers (a weirdly gaff prone new goalie, and a striker of zero confidence who was always on international duty). At one point I went 13 games without winning, at real risk of sliding into the relegation zone. I was only saved at the end by a Hail Mary loan signing from MK Dons who lit up things as a deep lying forward, a role I hadn't been able to use before in this save (the solo Advanced Striker had previously been very effective, so it was the only kind I had). Coming into the next season (the one I'm currently in), I thought that if I overhauled the squad, developed some new tactics to accommodate the DLF role that seems to be so effective, then the jobs a good'n. And yet we seem to be in terminal decline. I started the season with a 4-1 romp at home which seemed like a great omen but our form has plummeted so we now look and play like relegation fodder. The new 4231 I developed as my proactive formation is a complete bust - it somehow leaves us open against bigger teams (and by bigger I mean above 15th in the table.. ), while being completely unable to break down the smaller teams that set up to frustrate, leaving me condemned to goalless draws and 0-1 defeats where I take chasing a goal too far. I also have a formation designed for counter-attacking in games where I'm up against it, but it's a bit like playing the lottery - sometimes I will fluke a draw, very occasionally a win, but more often than not just get comprehensively beaten. Here I'll take a step back - I understand the principle of the game is to evaluate your squad and build tactics to best make use of them. So I’ll tell you about how I developed these. I set on 4231 as it would let me build around my two best players, who are most comfortable in AMC and AMR/ST roles. Here’s the team reports: And the two key players I feel I need to build tactics around: I then look at the team comparison page and see that we seem to be most ahead for vision/passing/decisions: My physicals are way down, but these are probably skewed by two fringe players I have. Now this is probably my fault for not prioritizing physical stats enough at this level, but to me this recommends a style of unlocking defences through shorter passing. Perhaps this is the wrong interpretation, but with the help of the rate my tactic tool I ended up with the following: I have also experimented with changing the CM(s) to a DLP(s) to try and bring more creativity to the table (which is also Phillips’ natural role). This formation doesn't seem to make a dent in teams set up to camp away from home, nor does it make inroads into bigger teams that play more progressively. The DLF(a) has roam from position, but no other bespoke PIs. Bearing in mind our squad is fairly weak overall, and mindful of the need for a more functional counter attacking formation, this is my other main tactic: I’ve also tried the same tactic in a 4-4-2 setup, but it seemed like having two forwards was too indulgent, so I brought back more cover in defence. Again, heavy use of the rate my tactic tool. As a counter formation this one isn't built through the strengths of my team in the same way (no room for my main playmaker) but through classic absorb pressure and strike back mentality. The issue with this one is it feels purely down to luck how well it does - I may fluke a lucky goal here and there, but it's not enough to build a solid season on. Here's how my season has gone so far: The Chorley and Bromley games seem to have been a real turning point - I couldn't break down two teams that were camped in their half, and since then I've been caught in a bit of a death spiral. My home form (where I tend to use the 4231) is particularly worrying. So how do I go about fixing things? Where am I making my main mistakes? I feel lost in a horrible soup of recruitment/motivation/tactics which is producing underperformance and I can't figure out exactly why. I feel like I'm going in circles consulting various guides all the while missing something that must be right in front of me. Some more context/things to mention: I understand that the game isn't meant to be easy at lower league level (and it feels way harder than the last time I did dafuge), but I know that my team is underperforming what's there on paper, and I have enough FM experience to know when you’re managing a side bound for relegation! I have dipped into Rashidi/Cleon/Ozil's guides and they are helpful, but difficult to apply to the restrictions of lower league. Similarly, I can sometimes find advice from other posts on the forum to be contradictory (some say slow your passing to unlock a massed defence, others say speed up). The only thing I seem to be able to consistently make work right now, at least for goalscoring, is spamming set piece training to target a centre back with 17 jumping. To be honest, when I do that it feels like borderline ME exploitation and I don't like doing it (esp. given the time I've invested into trying to build a team that can actually play…) I have lost some players - I had to sell my previously proven top scorer (the AF), and MK Dons wouldn't let me have the DLF loanee again. All of those should have fairly adequate replacements though. I did sign a lot of players at the start of the season which has probably had an impact, though the team cohesion is Good. The club vision is quite negative (just stick around the league) and despite the playoffs season, the players don’t believe we’ll achieve much more than fight against relegation. I’ve conceded winners/equalizers in the last 10 minutes 4 times already, which feels like a clue I’m not protecting them properly (despite the usual methods). To be clear, I don't think I have a divine right to be promoted every season or anything, I just know I'm failing because there's some fundamentals I can't grasp. I’m happy to slowly a build a team across multiple seasons, I just don’t want to lose what’s been a previously enjoyable save to my own stupidity. Edited January 2, 2021 by Absen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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