Akkarin Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 In previous versions of the game, I have often seen Model Professional personality players come through the youth academy - particularly as I make sure to keep a highly professional HOYD. In this version of the game, I have not seen any - which led me to investigate a bit further, including using a scouting tool to look at the hidden attribute Professionalism. As it turns out, there a number of players in the game that have what I thought should constitute Model Pro personality (Pro 20, Temp 10-20), but that do not have Model Pro personality. From what I can see, these players are all below 23, though I don't have scouting knowledge of all of them in game. Separately, I have players in my squad that have Determined personality, despite having a Determination attribute of 20 (should be Driven, Amb is also between 10-20), as well as Driven personality that does NOT have Determination attribute of 20... At first I thought these may be conscious changes to the game, and that the Ultimate Personalty/Media Handling Guide therefore no longer accurate, but I have seen references to the Driven/Determination issue referred to as a bug - however there was no answer/reply to those suggestions. Have others experienced the same or similar changes? Or is this a known bug? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hook Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Akkarin said: In previous versions of the game, I have often seen Model Professional personality players come through the youth academy - particularly as I make sure to keep a highly professional HOYD. In this version of the game, I have not seen any - which led me to investigate a bit further, including using a scouting tool to look at the hidden attribute Professionalism. As it turns out, there a number of players in the game that have what I thought should constitute Model Pro personality (Pro 20, Temp 10-20), but that do not have Model Pro personality. From what I can see, these players are all below 23, though I don't have scouting knowledge of all of them in game. Separately, I have players in my squad that have Determined personality, despite having a Determination attribute of 20 (should be Driven, Amb is also between 10-20), as well as Driven personality that does NOT have Determination attribute of 20... At first I thought these may be conscious changes to the game, and that the Ultimate Personalty/Media Handling Guide therefore no longer accurate, but I have seen references to the Driven/Determination issue referred to as a bug - however there was no answer/reply to those suggestions. Have others experienced the same or similar changes? Or is this a known bug? There were some small changes to the personality system in one of the patches which is probably what you are seeing- the Driven one being one of them that I know of for certain. It is possible model professional was also slightly modified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkarin Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Ok thanks, so Driven can now happen without having Determination 20? Do we know what is the new configuration of attributes needed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hook Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Akkarin said: Ok thanks, so Driven can now happen without having Determination 20? Do we know what is the new configuration of attributes needed? I believe it is the same except the determination threshold was dropped to 17 or 18 (can't recall offhand which). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkarin Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, Dr. Hook said: I believe it is the same except the determination threshold was dropped to 17 or 18 (can't recall offhand which). Must be something more, as I have a player in the squad with 20 Det, Amb 10 that has personality Determined. But I can try to work that out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkarin Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Seems you need Amb 12 now. Trying to figuree out if you need to be 23 to be Model Pro... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I have 3 drivens in my squad , the 2 have determination 20 and the other one 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkarin Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Any model pros @roggiotis ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Yes ,1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkarin Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 53 minutes ago, roggiotis said: Yes ,1 And is he younger than 23? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 No ,right now is 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 On 11/03/2017 at 09:45, Akkarin said: In previous versions of the game, I have often seen Model Professional personality players come through the youth academy - particularly as I make sure to keep a highly professional HOYD. In this version of the game, I have not seen any - which led me to investigate a bit further, including using a scouting tool to look at the hidden attribute Professionalism. As it turns out, there a number of players in the game that have what I thought should constitute Model Pro personality (Pro 20, Temp 10-20), but that do not have Model Pro personality. From what I can see, these players are all below 23, though I don't have scouting knowledge of all of them in game. Separately, I have players in my squad that have Determined personality, despite having a Determination attribute of 20 (should be Driven, Amb is also between 10-20), as well as Driven personality that does NOT have Determination attribute of 20... At first I thought these may be conscious changes to the game, and that the Ultimate Personalty/Media Handling Guide therefore no longer accurate, but I have seen references to the Driven/Determination issue referred to as a bug - however there was no answer/reply to those suggestions. Have others experienced the same or similar changes? Or is this a known bug? On 11/03/2017 at 09:45, Akkarin said: In previous versions of the game, I have often seen Model Professional personality players come through the youth academy - particularly as I make sure to keep a highly professional HOYD. In this version of the game, I have not seen any - which led me to investigate a bit further, including using a scouting tool to look at the hidden attribute Professionalism. As it turns out, there a number of players in the game that have what I thought should constitute Model Pro personality (Pro 20, Temp 10-20), but that do not have Model Pro personality. From what I can see, these players are all below 23, though I don't have scouting knowledge of all of them in game. Separately, I have players in my squad that have Determined personality, despite having a Determination attribute of 20 (should be Driven, Amb is also between 10-20), as well as Driven personality that does NOT have Determination attribute of 20... At first I thought these may be conscious changes to the game, and that the Ultimate Personalty/Media Handling Guide therefore no longer accurate, but I have seen references to the Driven/Determination issue referred to as a bug - however there was no answer/reply to those suggestions. Have others experienced the same or similar changes? Or is this a known bug? Just to jump in on this, I have a model citizen that is now 19 (real player too) he has been tutored from professional to model citizen in 6 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkarin Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mardy said: Just to jump in on this, I have a model citizen that is now 19 (real player too) he has been tutored from professional to model citizen in 6 months Wow, that's incredible. Never heard of such a thing - was he tutored by a Model Citizen? And just to check - which version of the game are you on? Model Citizen mechanics could be different from Model Pro I guess, but I wouldnt have thought so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, Akkarin said: Wow, that's incredible. Never heard of such a thing - was he tutored by a Model Citizen? And just to check - which version of the game are you on? Model Citizen mechanics could be different from Model Pro I guess, but I wouldnt have thought so Yes he (Markus Schubert) was tutored by Romuald Peiser who is a model citizen , who I purchased for 70k in the first January window. He's a goalkeeper. On the latest version. Kept Peiser on as under 18 coach/player in the hopes he can tutor someone else and eventually become by head of youth development Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkarin Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 I kow him yes, I believe he is the only Model citizen at the start of the game. Thanks for confirming, looks like I have to do some more investigation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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