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Asymmetric 433/343

Here is a little project that is a simple Plug & play Tactic. Attached you will find 2 Tactics. One called TBH SPLIT 433 MR version and this is the one described in the post. The other one is called "ML" version and is the mirror of the first one. If you use the "Mirrored", then the flow and the roles will be the other way around

You dont "switch" between the tactics other than to suit your actuall squad and the settings are exactly

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SHOUTS

Dont use them. As most of the settings have been tweaked, the shouts will either have no effect or will only effect half of whats intended, meaning that the tactic will be disrupted.

THE FLOW

Left side

Here, the buildup consists in a WBleft and a DMCleft and an advanced Forward that comes deep to link up with play and the Central FC sitting deeper " in the hole". As the DMC plays a more direct game, he often put balls into channels down the flanks for our FCleft and our Wingback.

Right side.

Here, we have a holding MC that plays t-balls into channels down the flanks onto our Winger providing width. The FCright is playing as an advanced FC with the support of an deeper FCcenter that is dragging one of the Central Defenders out of position The fullback is one that stays back and acts both cover and an easy passing option for the MC and the winger

Both sides put together

By using this split formation, we give ourselves the opportunity to have many dimension in our build up. We can play a direct ball onto our FCs, we can play a possession based approach and drag the opponents on to us by using triangles in midfield. We have the width with our MR and left Wingback . We have crosses from both left and right and we have people taking runs from both the left, right and the center

If the opponents sit deep, the right side is more likely to be able to drag the opponent onto us and if they play aggressive and push up, then the left side can easily retain possession in an advanced position whilst still having cover by the DMC if losing the ball.

Naturally, the flow of the game will depend on the quality and preferred moves of your players but regardless of opponent, it gives you the chance to dominate the area of the pitch where you beat them in quality using this multi dimension approach.

In short, it’s a good approach if wanting to stretch the opponent sideways and be able to overload every area of the field

MATCH PREP I tend to use Defensive positioning when playing counter attack( as in this tactic)

but if the opponents have scored many goals from corners, or If I see our best

chance from these, I go with Set Pieces ( defensive,

attacking)

SET PIECES Have not been touched. Here, you will have to set them up to suit your players

TRAINING It would highly depend on the players but the

stats posted in the OP are those that I find important for the roles. Along with

those, I use the Standard setup.

GETTING MANY CARDS ?

If you see that a player with a yellow card has been playing poorly and getting out of his defensive position, then tell him to be mire careful in the 2nd half. If you see a player un the verge of getting his 2nd yellow, then dont be afraid to sub him, especially if he is " aggressive or frustrated" . As for red cards, always tell them in the team talk that you did not like it and fine him with 1 weeks pay. This is a pretty good way of stopping a floodgate scenario.

OPPOSITION INSTRUCTIONS

I have NOT used any at all....but..

...in the past, I have mainly used these, regardless of tactic

Single FC without AMC support – Close Down/Always

Nervous and Anxious Players – Hard Tackling, Show into weak foot

Elegant DLPlaymaker – Tight Mark, Close Down and Weaker Foot

PLAYING WITH 10 MEN

Here, we sub the FCleft and put the new player into the position of the player sent off. We put the FCright into the FCcenter spot and we Drop the FCcenter onto the AMcleft position, just like in the screen

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PLAYERS

Below, you see the description of the players along with some screens of the

recommended stats. Whilst these players are not set exactly to these roles, its

the closest in stats I can come when loading up screenshots. So look in the

description to see what kind of player to use and look in the screens for

important stats

The Balanced and determined squad

You don't need quality players to use this approach. What you do need is a balanced squad.

Enough players that have the stamina to use this high press system, players with

team and work rate, some quick players, enough " tall" players so you avoid

conceding too many set pieces etc etc. All in all, a TEAM, not just a group of

players. As in all Teams, you need players that want to win, players that are up

for the challenge and can pull themselves together when the going gets tough and

players that can handle the pressure of suddenly being a favorite. If you

combine all this, then you can win the Champions League with players of a much

lesser "quality" and " rating" then Barca etc. Naturally you can still get good

results without these traits but to win the CL, its crucial

If anyone has some players that have been working superbly in any of these"roles", please tell me and I will make a list in the Opening post under every position

FORWARD LEFT

In his settings, he will act like a Advanced FC. If he likes to move into channels and play one-twos, then the latter will bring one more dimension to the flow. When playing with underdogs and are more likely to launch quick counter attacks, an quick goalscorer is best used but when playing middle teams and top teams, then a more complete player that likes to link up with play is better used.

PPMs: Comes deep to get ball, Plays one-twos, Moves into channels

FORWARD CENTRAL

Here, we have a Deeplying Supporting FC. If you have a Trequartista, this is where he plays

FORWARD RIGHT

Advanced FC. If he likes to move into channels and play one-twos, then the latter will bring one more dimension to the flow.

PPMs: Plays one-twos, Moves into channels

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MR

Here we have the classic English Winger. He hugs the touchline and makes crosses as qwell as getting into the area when the ball is on the other flank. As we play a rather fluid approach, a player like Seb Larsson, Milner etc is better used than Nasri. In short, a B2B winger

PPMS: Runs with ball down flank, knock ball past opponent, arrives late inside the area.

MC

This player acts like a Deep Lying Playmaker on support and the more complete he is in his role, being able to use his flair and creativity as well as breaking up attacks, the better it is.

PPMS: Try killer balls, comes deep to get the ball, dictates tempo

DMC

As written earlier, he is a more complete DMC/MC, like a box2box starting from the DMC position. He needs to be able to cover large areas running up and down the field so stamina is a must. Otherwise, you will see him having 60 % condition before the game is at end

PPMS: Nothing special. Just make sure he IS NOT acting like a DPL, NOT having dwells on ball, dictates tempo etc.

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FB

This player is set to be really defensive so he should NOT have attacking PPMs. As he holds up the ball, he needs good decision and concentration

PPMS: Nothing special

WBL

The more attacking fullback. He needs to be able to beat his man and make a cross, as well as get back into position after losing out in possession

PPMS: Runs down the left flank, switches flank, knocks ball past opponent

DC

Here, its all about getting as good defenders as possible

PPMS: Nothing special

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Looking forward to trying this tonight, what do you put your general training on? and do you rest after match?

Resting players

That would depedn on my schedule but in January, I tend to

Training

The training depends on what team I am managing

If on the lower leagues ,. I tend to go for fitness and agility atc

If the higher leagues, I go for Standard/Balanced.

Regarding young players, I tedn to do this in a long term save

TRAINING YOUNG PLAYERS WITH POTENTIAL

Here, its all about making the best out of the player as well as fiting him into your team. After all, it does not matter how bnig his potential is and how well he trains if he does not get any matches due to not being the correct playertype•Look at the player at a young age to evaluate if he could be used in a different position instead. Here, I only look at the stats, not ppms. If it looks like he is on the right patch, we keep this in mind to

•Train the player in an individuall schedule like Mid, winger, advanced FC etc to get him more complete in the basics on being a Defender, Mid or attacker

•Then, if he keeps developing and are ready for the first team/ some subs, I consider re-training him in a different position

•Then, after this is done and he is ready for more action, I play him in his (new)position and train him in a specialaist role

•Then, I look at what ppms that can make him use his strengths even better whilst still being good for the tactic

•Then, I let him train a specific stat. Either one that is undermining his ability or one where he has the chnace to get it up to between 19-20

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Resting players

That would depedn on my schedule but in January, I tend to

Training

The training depends on what team I am managing

If on the lower leagues ,. I tend to go for fitness and agility atc

If the higher leagues, I go for Standard/Balanced.

Regarding young players, I tedn to do this in a long term save

TRAINING YOUNG PLAYERS WITH POTENTIAL

Here, its all about making the best out of the player as well as fiting him into your team. After all, it does not matter how bnig his potential is and how well he trains if he does not get any matches due to not being the correct playertype•Look at the player at a young age to evaluate if he could be used in a different position instead. Here, I only look at the stats, not ppms. If it looks like he is on the right patch, we keep this in mind to

•Train the player in an individuall schedule like Mid, winger, advanced FC etc to get him more complete in the basics on being a Defender, Mid or attacker

•Then, if he keeps developing and are ready for the first team/ some subs, I consider re-training him in a different position

•Then, after this is done and he is ready for more action, I play him in his (new)position and train him in a specialaist role

•Then, I look at what ppms that can make him use his strengths even better whilst still being good for the tactic

•Then, I let him train a specific stat. Either one that is undermining his ability or one where he has the chnace to get it up to between 19-20

Thanks.

I have just took over Liverpool first season, they are 4th from bottom, still got current squad as they havent got any money, I thought about putting it on, very high, team cohesion to get the tactic to gel first then switch it to what you suggested above.

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So far so good then.

It's actually better than what I expected..

Did 20 games so far with it the result: 13W, 5D, 2L

The only noticeable lost is against Milan (away).. Another lost is because I holidayed my team after 4-1 win against Parma (a) on Coppa Italy..

Squad:

GK: Handanovic, Belec

DC: Bochetti, Rannochia, Cardirola

DR: Bellushi, Donati

WBL: Schmelzer, Florenzi (trying to train him in the position to make him sorta like Jordi Alba-esque.. Gotta be done since my inter finance is bad)

DM: Rode, Cirigliano

MC: Poli

MR: Perisic, Coutinho

AFRL: Rodrigo, Destro, Belfodil

Center striker : Nem

i might not have a proper player for the position and after 20 games, the formation is not in fluid level yet..

Good job TBH!! Loving this!

ps:

1. I followed the OP instruction.. No tweak, no shouts, no OI, training prep also like in OP

2. Currently in the final of coppa italy and 5 points ahead of Juventus (3rd season)

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6.^Struggling with my Bolton side that's not so strong as of yet, been in the premiership (holding on) for about 4 seasons now i started switching the left/right version of this tactic, 1st few games wer great i managed a few wins, but my strikers cannot score and im drawing/loosing many games, what am I doing wrong...most my players are regens coming through, but Nem/Ademilson still holding 1st team places right now. getting pumped full of money left right and center so maybe i should start spending it on stronger players ? Idealy i wanted to try keep main squad an develop....anyway, i like this tactic it suits my team, I just cant score !

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@r5gtt2k3

My ademilson also cant score, but on my save, Nem been the leading goalscorer and asssits on center striker position.. Maybe your team talk? My left striker also did not score as much goals as my center or right striker.. Defense wise, I never conceded more than 1 goal beside the away game against AC milan (1-2)..

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the playmaker tick is the MC?

the assistant give the team talks

No, the playmaker is ticked and set to none since we don't use one.

Regarding Man handling, media etc, I always do them myself.otherwise, I would have no control of the game. After all, I am the boss, not the assistant manager.

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premleaguetable18goals.jpg

18 Goals Conceded in Prem League

7trophies.jpg

A maximum of 7 trophies in one season

startingxi.jpg

My starting 11, making use of the entire squad all with fantastic average ratings

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This formation is all about the TEAM but Gareth Bale really came into his own as the winger, my team was so much more effective with him in the side

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Run of results..

All of all THANK YOU so much TBH...this tactic is sensational and deserves much more attention!

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Really good results there. This approach is rather fun and the key to success in indeed the ML/MR as he is the focal point ( passing down the flanks with just one winger basiclly means "passing down MR och ML flank, the WB is not considered as a winger)

I have been trying this with some lesser teams and I have taken Bradford to the EPL with ease. In this first season in the EPL, the approach is just too attacking though so I have to revert to the SPLIT 451 until getting some better players.

premleaguetable18goals.jpg

18 Goals Conceded in Prem League

7trophies.jpg

A maximum of 7 trophies in one season

startingxi.jpg

My starting 11, making use of the entire squad all with fantastic average ratings

garethbalep.jpg

This formation is all about the TEAM but Gareth Bale really came into his own as the winger, my team was so much more effective with him in the side

fixturesg.jpg

Run of results..

All of all THANK YOU so much TBH...this tactic is sensational and deserves much more attention!

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Despite my plan to play the game with the TC and shouts the allure of a TBH tactic draws me in once again. Results have been quite good for my 2nd season Liverpool team, including a 3-1 FA cup win against ManU in the first game with this. Swansea are the only team to give me any trouble, Arsenal & Spurs brushed aside. My only complaint is that it is kind of boring sitting there watching the team win game after game and I have nothing to do but make subs. So I may not keep usng this tactic but I must say: Bravo.

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Thanks for this tactic, just finished my 4th season with Crystal Palace and I've had great success with it.

Season 1:

- 1st in the Championship (109 points, 26 point lead)... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps1lg.jpg

Season 2:

- 6th in the Premiership... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps2lg.jpg

- Won the Capital One cup (4-1 vs Everton in the final)

Season 3:

- 2nd in the Premiership (2 points behind Man Utd after losing to City in my last game)... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps3lg.jpg

- Won the Euro Cup... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps3el.jpg

- Semi-finalist in Capital One cup (lost 4-3 to City on agg.)

Season 4:

- 1st in the Premiership (99 points, 9 point lead)... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4lg.jpg

- Won the Champions League... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4cl.jpg

- Won the FA Cup... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4fa.jpg

- Won the Capital One cup... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps5cc.jpg

- Lost the European Super Cup at the start of the season (3-1 to Man Utd)

And here's my current squad... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4team.jpg

I've only lost 1 in my last 46 matches (lost 2-1 to Norwich at home, one of those unlucky games).

I've always set match prep to Defensive positioning - Leno with 30 cleansheets in 54 games.

So again, thanks for a great tactic :thup:

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Thanks for this tactic, just finished my 4th season with Crystal Palace and I've had great success with it.

Season 1:

- 1st in the Championship (109 points, 26 point lead)... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps1lg.jpg

Season 2:

- 6th in the Premiership... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps2lg.jpg

- Won the Capital One cup (4-1 vs Everton in the final)

Season 3:

- 2nd in the Premiership (2 points behind Man Utd after losing to City in my last game)... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps3lg.jpg

- Won the Euro Cup... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps3el.jpg

- Semi-finalist in Capital One cup (lost 4-3 to City on agg.)

Season 4:

- 1st in the Premiership (99 points, 9 point lead)... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4lg.jpg

- Won the Champions League... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4cl.jpg

- Won the FA Cup... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4fa.jpg

- Won the Capital One cup... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps5cc.jpg

- Lost the European Super Cup at the start of the season (3-1 to Man Utd)

And here's my current squad... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4team.jpg

I've only lost 1 in my last 46 matches (lost 2-1 to Norwich at home, one of those unlucky games).

I've always set match prep to Defensive positioning - Leno with 30 cleansheets in 54 games.

So again, thanks for a great tactic :thup:

what patch???

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Thanks for this tactic, just finished my 4th season with Crystal Palace and I've had great success with it.

Season 1:

- 1st in the Championship (109 points, 26 point lead)... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps1lg.jpg

Season 2:

- 6th in the Premiership... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps2lg.jpg

- Won the Capital One cup (4-1 vs Everton in the final)

Season 3:

- 2nd in the Premiership (2 points behind Man Utd after losing to City in my last game)... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps3lg.jpg

- Won the Euro Cup... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps3el.jpg

- Semi-finalist in Capital One cup (lost 4-3 to City on agg.)

Season 4:

- 1st in the Premiership (99 points, 9 point lead)... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4lg.jpg

- Won the Champions League... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4cl.jpg

- Won the FA Cup... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4fa.jpg

- Won the Capital One cup... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps5cc.jpg

- Lost the European Super Cup at the start of the season (3-1 to Man Utd)

And here's my current squad... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/teeyougee/cps4team.jpg

I've only lost 1 in my last 46 matches (lost 2-1 to Norwich at home, one of those unlucky games).

I've always set match prep to Defensive positioning - Leno with 30 cleansheets in 54 games.

So again, thanks for a great tactic :thup:

Great result mate !!

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TBH,

Just wondering if you could give me a few hints and tips as to what sort of player and any particular stars that work for DLF role? I've played Rooney and despite my overall team success Rooney can have a an average rating of 5.8 every say 1 in 3 games? I've tried Neymer and he seems to do the same. Is it a fault with the players I'm using or just the way the tactic works sometimes?

I've just signed Jack Wilshere and was thinking about training him up for that position?. My other strikers at the moment are Adeilson, Hernandez, Welbeck, Falcao and of course Rooney and Neymar.

My final season at the club I think then I'm off for a new challenge abroad or in the lower leagues!

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TBH. Please forgive for posting here but I am having log in problems with your site. Email sent to your administrator. Now the important business.

Are your formations/tactics for FM'13 'non exploitive'? I don't like 'expoitive' tactics. I had some success using the 4-1-2-3 'beta' and am wondering if it has been fully adapted for the full FM'13 game, likewise for all the sets for FM'13.I would gratefully accept advice from anyone else who has the correct answers to my questions. Thank you.

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