Portuguese Premier League Data discussion

Portuguese National Team Staff

Ricardo Santos has a Continental A License

Joaquim Milheiro is the U19 Manager (shown as U20 Coach)

José Guilherme is the Assistant Technical Director (shown as U19 Coach)

Daniel Barreira has a Coach role on the U19s (shown as Scout)

Romeu Almeida has a Continental Pro License

Filipe Ramos has a Continental Pro License

Telmo Silva is the U21 Performance Analyst (shows as U21 Coach) and has only a Continental B License

Óscar Tojo is the U21 Sports Scientist (shows as unemployed)

Filipe Romão is the women's U17 Performance Analyst (shows as U20 Coach) and has only a Continental B License

Bino (former Leiria Manager) is the U20 Manager

 

Portuguese International Players

David Pereira da Costa is a natural Left Winger (where he usually plays for Lens) and he is Right Footed (information on transfermarkt and Instat about his strong foot is incorrect)

Alvyn Sanches is currently a Switzerland U20 player so I assume he also has Swiss Nationality. He is Left footed.

 

Hello, I just want to point a question about some young Sporting Clube de Portugal talents. I was checking them, and i notice something (in my opinion) a bit weird, Mateus Fernandes a very talented player that is probably the next "big thing" in this club, and hes worse than Marco Cruz, even in potencial. 

Other example: Flávio Nazinho this one even made some champions league games this season and hes attributes are not for a sporting player in the near future, not even close. 

I could name others but in diff levels, like Afonso Moreira 9 passing, Renato veiga...

I dont know if its a Beta thing or not, but again in my opinion specially Mateus and Nazinho, need a closer look for next BD updates.

Keep up the good work

(Mateus FM2022 - Mateus FM2023)

(Nazinho FM2022 - Nazinho FM2023)

Edited October 20, 2022 by lk17

4 horas atrás, Ashikodi disse:

Portuguese National Team Staff

Ricardo Santos has a Continental A License

Joaquim Milheiro is the U19 Manager (shown as U20 Coach)

José Guilherme is the Assistant Technical Director (shown as U19 Coach)

Daniel Barreira has a Coach role on the U19s (shown as Scout)

Romeu Almeida has a Continental Pro License

Filipe Ramos has a Continental Pro License

Telmo Silva is the U21 Performance Analyst (shows as U21 Coach) and has only a Continental B License

Óscar Tojo is the U21 Sports Scientist (shows as unemployed)

Filipe Romão is the women's U17 Performance Analyst (shows as U20 Coach) and has only a Continental B License

Bino (former Leiria Manager) is the U20 Manager

 

Thanks. A few of those were already corrected for the final database, but some others were missing. Those will be corrected.

4 horas atrás, Ashikodi disse:

Portuguese International Players

David Pereira da Costa is a natural Left Winger (where he usually plays for Lens) and he is Right Footed (information on transfermarkt and Instat about his strong foot is incorrect)

Alvyn Sanches is currently a Switzerland U20 player so I assume he also has Swiss Nationality. He is Left footed.

 

Those are not part of the Portuguese database, nothing we can do.

You have to report them at the French and Swiss database threads

1 hora atrás, lk17 disse:

Hello, I just want to point a question about some young Sporting Clube de Portugal talents. I was checking them, and i notice something (in my opinion) a bit weird, Mateus Fernandes a very talented player that is probably the next "big thing" in this club, and hes worse than Marco Cruz, even in potencial. 

Other example: Flávio Nazinho this one even made some champions league games this season and hes attributes are not for a sporting player in the near future, not even close. 

I could name others but in diff levels, like Afonso Moreira 9 passing, Renato veiga...

I dont know if its a Beta thing or not, but again in my opinion specially Mateus and Nazinho, need a closer look for next BD updates.

Keep up the good work

(Mateus FM2022 - Mateus FM2023)

(Nazinho FM2022 - Nazinho FM2023)

Beta database is different from the Final database.

Both of them and a few others were bumped, especially Nazinho.

Cheers

Opinion about Benfica Speed attributes:

Ristic is too slow... only 12. Ristic is actually a Center Midfield, but he is so fast he was adapted as a Left Back with success. Not saying he is very fast, but at least 14.
Enzo Fernandez is way too fast. He almost plays walking. In yesterdays game he caught a yellow card exactly because how slow he is. Should drop to 10 at least. His passing should be improved to at least 17 though, I'd say he is even better than that but he has potential to get better.
Grimaldo has been consistently at 13 last FMs, he is faster than that... He's just not that fast coming back to defending, but thats a mental aspect, not physical. At least 14. Same with Gilberto.
David Neres 16 is way too fast... He is at most 13/14. He has acceleration, not speed.


 

Edited October 22, 2022 by PiX.NelsoN

Boa tarde analizei um pouco o Plantel do Sporting do Benfica e do FC porto e achei que para o FC porto atual campeão nacional os atributos de alguns jogadores não são compativeis com a realidade , em comparação com o Sporting e Benfica.

BUFFS

Saviour Godwin from Casa Pia deserves a massive increase. Revelation of the League so far.

Leonardo Lelo deserves a small bit more PA, and remove the left winger position. he plays in the wing of a 3 man defense system. 18 at DL, 20 at WL, 12 at LM, 6 at LW imo.

Vitinha from Braga deserves higher PA.

Simon Banza higher CA.

Sequeira remove Left miedfield and left winger position, put central defender with left side preference at 14. and increase CA/PA.

Musrati needs more physical attributes, reduce weaker foot capacity to compensate and leave CA same as ingame.

Rodrigo Gomes increase CA/PA.

Alvaro Djaló increase CA/PA.

Filepe relvas slightly higher CA/PA.

Martim Tavares increase CA.

Bruno lourenço increase CA/PA

Samu small increase in CA

Kiko bondoso small increase in CA

Tiago Santos higher CA, remove right winger and lower right miedfielder proeficiency.

Andre Amaro higher PA

Miguel Maga higher PA

Helder Sá higher PA

Bamba small CA increase

Fran Navarro big CA increase

Kanya Fujimoto big Ca increase

Andrew (Gil vicente GK) big ca/pa increase

Costinha CA/PA buff

Fabio Ronaldo CA/PA buff

Aziz CA/PA buff

Ivan Jaime attributes need to be reshuffled, mentals too weak compared to real life.

Morato more CA/PA.

Zaidu needs more mental attributes, remove left winger anf left miedfielder positions.

Joao mario (porto) positions need a major revamp. 

Otavio needs 20 on agressiveness, dirtiness is fine, more leadership.

Pêpê needs right defender and right wingback positions, he played already many matches in those positions.

Galeno bit more PA, and mental attribues revamp.

Danny namaso more CA/PA

Taremi too strong, looks like a top tier worlwide striker, needs to lose some atributes

St juste 20 injury proness

Gonçalo inacio a bit more PA

Pedro Porro , remove right winger position

Matheus reis remove left miedfielder. central miefielder and defensive miedfielder positions.

Ugarte more PA

Nuno Santos, remove right winger position, 16 at DE, 20 at AlaE, 16 at ME, 19 at EE.

Marcus Edwards, remove left winger position and all miedfielders. he is an winger/forward.

 

NERFS

Ricardo Esgaio medium CA/PA decrease

Paulinho small CA/PA decrease

Antonio Adan small CA decrease

bruno Costa medium CA/PA decrease

Marcano  medium CA/PA decrease

Taremi too strong, looks like a top tier worlwide striker, needs to lose some atributes

Andre Almeida big CA/PA decrease

Gil Dias medium CA/PA decrease

Chiquinho medium CA/PA decrease

Diogo Gonçalves medium CA/PA decrease

Draxler big CA/PA decrease

Gustavo Assuncao big CA/PA decrease

Matheus(braga) medium CA/PA decrease

Xadas medium CA/PA decrease

matchoi Djalo Small CA decrease, 

Henrique Araujo Big CA decrease, same PA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2022 by Bladeshot

3 minutos atrás, Bladeshot disse:

BUFFS

Matchoi Djaló from Paços de Ferreira is too strong for his real life capabilities.

Saviour Godwin from Casa Pia deserves a massive increase. Revelation of the League so far.

Leonardo Lelo deserves a small bit more PA, and remove the left winger position. he plays in the wing of a 3 man defense system. 18 at DL, 20 at WL, 12 at LM, 6 at LW imo.

Vitinha from Braga deserves higher PA.

Simon Banza higher CA.

Sequeira remove Left miedfield and left winger position, put central defender with left side preference at 14. and increase CA/PA.

Musrati needs more physical attributes, reduce weaker foot capacity to compensate and leave CA same as ingame.

Rodrigo Gomes increase CA/PA.

Alvaro Djaló increase CA/PA.

Filepe relvas slightly higher CA/PA.

Martim Tavares increase CA.

Bruno lourenço increase CA/PA

Samu small increase in CA

Kiko bondoso small increase in CA

Tiago Santos higher CA, remove right winger and lower right miedfielder proeficiency.

Andre Amaro higher PA

Miguel Maga higher PA

Helder Sá higher PA

Bamba small CA increase

Fran Navarro big CA increase

Kanya Fujimoto big Ca increase

Andrew (Gil vicente GK) big ca/pa increase

Costinha CA/PA buff

Fabio Ronaldo CA/PA buff

Aziz CA/PA buff

Ivan Jaime attributes need to be reshuffled, mentals too weak compared to real life.

Morato more CA/PA.

Zaidu needs more mental attributes, remove left winger anf left miedfielder positions.

Joao mario (porto) positions need a major revamp. 

Otavio needs 20 on agressiveness, dirtiness is fine, more leadership.

Pêpê needs right defender and right wingback positions, he played already many matches in those positions.

Galeno bit more PA, and mental attribues revamp.

Danny namaso more CA/PA

Taremi too strong, looks like a top tier worlwide striker, needs to lose some atributes

St juste 20 injury proness

Gonçalo inacio a bit more PA

Pedro Porro , remove right winger position

Matheus reis remove left miedfielder. central miefielder and defensive miedfielder positions.

Ugarte more PA

Nuno Santos, remove right winger position, 16 at DE, 20 at AlaE, 16 at ME, 19 at EE.

Marcus Edwards, remove left winger position and all miedfielders. he is an winger/forward.

 

NERFS

Ricardo Esgaio medium CA/PA decrease

Paulinho small CA/PA decrease

Antonio Adan small CA decrease

bruno Costa medium CA/PA decrease

Marcano  medium CA/PA decrease

Taremi too strong, looks like a top tier worlwide striker, needs to lose some atributes

Andre Almeida big CA/PA decrease

Gil Dias medium CA/PA decrease

Chiquinho medium CA/PA decrease

Diogo Gonçalves medium CA/PA decrease

Draxler big CA/PA decrease

Gustavo Assuncao big CA/PA decrease

Matheus(braga) medium CA/PA decrease

Xadas medium CA/PA decrease

matchoi Djalo Small CA decrease, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with the majority of your suggestions. However, I would add a small CA/PA increase regarding Kunimoto from Casa Pia.

Mauro Couto (Paços Ferreira) is left footed and predominantly right winger (he would be, at most, accomplished as a left winger). Information in transfermarkt and zerozero is inaccurate.

11 minutos atrás, Ashikodi disse:

Mauro Couto (Paços Ferreira) is left footed and predominantly right winger (he would be, at most, accomplished as a left winger). Information in transfermarkt and zerozero is inaccurate.

Thank you. It will be updated for the winter update.

Database closed yesterday morning

the notes of mohamed belloumi who plays farense are below

Em 25/10/2022 em 12:34, PandoraBox disse:

Thank you. It will be updated for the winter update.

Database closed yesterday morning

Hello! got some more issues to fix.

Diego Moreira from SLBenfica should have a contract until 30/06/2024. And his agent is Jorge Mendes(Gestifute) now.

Martim Neto from SLBenfica should have a plus 4 year contract option clause in his current contract.

Some Porto attacking players like Taremi, Otávio, Pepê, Evanilson and Toni Martinez are too much overpowered with unrealistic values for their stats. Otávio is the most realistic of the five but is still a little OP when compared with the reality, and has low leadership (he shouldn't). This result in an unrealistic team for FCPorto, with high sell values for their players, when they are not that good in reality in 2022 (obviously they are very good players, but not THAT good), for example, I made a save, and Taremi (who is looking more like Benzema) was sold in the first transfer window for 60M for Liverpool, Otávio was a player Man City were very interested in, and Toni Martinez who is not even a starter for Porto in reality, now that Taremi has left the club (in the save), was one of their most important player with super stats, Pêpê has like 17 pace and acceleration (and Im not speaking about the other crazy stats!!!) like come on... Hope you guys have fixed it in your final database.

Like i've mentioned early, Benfica, Sporting and Porto deserve a price update on their players, porto players should be nerfed and be valued in lower prices, and some players from Sporting and Benfica need to be valued a little bit higher, like Enzo, his base value should be 50M and Florentino Luis 40M, their base value should be this and should increase or decrease depending on the season they will have.

And finally i have an error that is not a database error, I don't know if i can report to you but basically on the locker room, when a match is finished, there's a speech about a player that played the match in a position that is not his main position, I think it's a newly added one, like "today you played well even though you were not in your usual position" or something, well that phrase is not translated to portuguese. 

Have a good one

 

1) o facto do manuel ugarte, do telmo arcanjo e do stephen eustáquio (-1) terem o mesmo PA retira toda a credibilidade da DB portuguesa deste ano.

2) o savior godwin não ser o jogador do casa pia com maior CA retira toda a credibilidade da DB portuguesa deste ano.

3) o gustavo assuncao ser o jogador do famalicão com mais CA, quando desde janeiro não é titular indiscutivel da equipa.

4) matchoi djalo depois de a epoca passada ter sido suplente a epoca toda. e tendo nesta epoca no dia 8 de Novembro 0 vitórias no campeonato, com 0 assistências e somente 1 golo marcado, não merece nunca na vida CA de 120.

5) petar musa ter CA inferior ao rodrigo pinho então é hilariante, considerando as performances recentes de ambos

6) o silvestre varela depois de envelhecer vários anos, não tem mudanças no seu perfil, continuando a ser aos 38 anos o melhor jogador da 2ª liga portuguesa, não esquecendo que o FC Porto B terminou a época somente 6 pontos acima da linha de água,  quando ele se reformar é favor deixar ele como está como homenagem aos seus feitos.

7) o melhor jogador (CA), excluindo Benfica, Porto, Braga, Sporting ser o Bruno Varela.

8) Ibrahima Bamba ter um valor de PA mais elevado que Fatawu, Gonçalo Esteves, Hugo Félix.

 

Vou parar de demonstrar mais casos ridículos da DB Portuguesa, que nos ultimos anos passou de ser uma das mais completas e mais realísticas para uma em que vários jogadores continuam inalterados à largos anos, é completamente feita sem critério e demonstra uma má avaliação de certos jogadores. Para o ano pela primeira vez em 20 anos não irei comprar o FM 2024 pois considero a versão deste ano uma desilusão, tanto ao nivel da database como do jogo em si.

Edited November 8, 2022 by Bladeshot

Como pode alguém razoavelmente explicar que um jogador de 21 anos como Ugarte, titular indiscutível no Sporting CP, sendo um dos destaques da equipa na liga dos campeões tenha o mesmo potencial que Telmo Arcanjo, que joga no Tondela, na segunda divisão? Deve existir uma diferença vincada entre a discricionariedade que é conferida na avaliação de jogadores, até porque esta implica juízos subjectivos e erros manifestos. Saber que Manuel Ugarte é muito melhor jogador e tem muito mais potencial do que Telmo Arcanjo é um completo no-brainer, pelo que vir dizer que ambos "são iguais" é um atentado a quem gosta do jogo e  gasta, anualmente, o seu dinheiro na aquisição do mesmo, com a expectativa de ver uma base de dados equilibrada, que no mínimo assegure uma característica tão fundamental como o realismo.

Maria Teresa Andrade, director of Seixal FC, is misgendered in the editor as "male", which is causing male regens to show up with her first names.

On 26/11/2022 at 22:34, Vanaa said:

Maria Teresa Andrade, director of Seixal FC, is misgendered in the editor as "male", which is causing male regens to show up with her first names.

Thanks, @Vanaa - we've spotted this and it's under review.

CF Belenenses is missing the B Team that started this year playing in the last division of Lisbon District championship.

Kazuyoshi Miura shows up as 23 yrars old in my saves?