T-Unit-LFC Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Can anyone reccommend to me how many leagues and nations i should be running with the following information on my laptop. I want to get the maximum ammount of leagues as i can on my game and i was just wondering what would be the maximum ammount of nations and leagues i could have in a game? These are my system specs: Manufacturer: Samsung Electronics Rating: 3.5 Windows Experience Index : Unrated Processor: Pentium® Dual-Core CPU T4200 @ 2.00GHz 2.00 GHz Memory (RAM): 4.00 GB System Type: 32-bit Operating System Im using Windows Vista Home Premium Thanks a lot for your help!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 A good few nations and probably 20+ leagues (at least) Whats your graphics card because that is what is going to ruin your gaming experiance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Unit-LFC Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 A good few nations and probably 20+ leagues (at least)Whats your graphics card because that is what is going to ruin your gaming experiance. How can i find out my graphics card info mate and i'll let you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Unit-LFC Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 I think this is it: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Start/ Control pannel/ System Device manager/ Display adapters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Unit-LFC Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Device Name Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family Total Available Graphics Memory 1308 MB Dedicated Video Memory 64 MB System Video Memory 64 MB You wont be able to play the 3D engine and probably wont be able to play in 2d either im afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Unit-LFC Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 Device NameMobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family Total Available Graphics Memory 1308 MB Dedicated Video Memory 64 MB System Video Memory 64 MB You wont be able to play the 3D engine and probably wont be able to play in 2d either im afraid. Damn lol. Does that only mean if i were to run a load of leagues and nations?? So how many leagues and nations would you reccommend with these specs and this graphic card then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 erm - its two separate issues im afraid - with the RAM and processor you can run quite a few leagues and nations - however, you wont actually be able to watch a single match (you might manage 2D or at worst, commentary only) but you cant watch a 3d match with it. You need a dedicated 3D graphics card with its own 128MB of dedicated Ram - yours is an integrated one that draws on your system ram. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Unit-LFC Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 erm - its two separate issues im afraid - with the RAM and processor you can run quite a few leagues and nations - however, you wont actually be able to watch a single match (you might manage 2D or at worst, commentary only) but you cant watch a 3d match with it.You need a dedicated 3D graphics card with its own 128MB of dedicated Ram - yours is an integrated one that draws on your system ram. I see mate. Have you got any reccomendations for certain graphics cards and where to get them?? I appreciate your help btw, thanks a lot!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 take it thats a laptop you have? if so you cant upgrade the graphics. you might how ever be able to give it some of your ram to use im not sure though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Unit-LFC Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 Yeah it's a laptop mate. I wish i knew more about computers!! :-( lol. What would you say the most ammount of leagues i could run would be with these system specs and graphics card, without the 3D match engine playing up?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Those intergrated chips take memory from the RAM anyway - the problem is, they dont seem to work the way they are supposed to - technically that card can take 1300mb of ram from the normal system ram - which would make that card over twice as powerful as my 512mb geforce 9500M - but it doesnt work that way for some reason (which is more technical than my knowledge allows for). My advice - take it to a computer store and ask them because laptops are much more difficult than desktops to add bits into. If, however, its a desktop - just find ANY graphics card with 256mb or 512mb of dedicated graphics ram and shove it in - will work a charm with this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 What would you say the most ammount of leagues i could run would be with these system specs and graphics card, without the 3D match engine playing up?? Zero, unfortunately. Its not a 'number of leagues' issue - its simply the second you started a 3D match the game would freeze up/ crash/ run in slow motion or any combination of the 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Unit-LFC Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 Ok mate :-( . Cheers for the help! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 T-Unit-LFC with all thats been said though all you have to do is disable 3d in the preference menu. do you currently have the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 take it thats a laptop you have? if so you cant upgrade the graphics. you might how ever be able to give it some of your ram to use im not sure though Not true. I've seen some youtube videos showing you how to upgrade a laptop graphics card. Its not as easy as doing it on a desktop but it is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 lol yep ive seen a vid of that to but id be buggerd if i was going to do that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deo Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Those intergrated chips take memory from the RAM anyway - the problem is, they dont seem to work the way they are supposed to - technically that card can take 1300mb of ram from the normal system ram - which would make that card over twice as powerful as my 512mb geforce 9500M - but it doesnt work that way for some reason (which is more technical than my knowledge allows for).My advice - take it to a computer store and ask them because laptops are much more difficult than desktops to add bits into. If, however, its a desktop - just find ANY graphics card with 256mb or 512mb of dedicated graphics ram and shove it in - will work a charm with this game. It doesn't work that way because RAM today means NOTHING. A dedicated graphics card, like the name says, is dedicated to processing everything related to graphics, it has it's own GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) which is constructed that way (different from the CPU, Central Processing Unit) so that it can perform certain calculations related to graphics way better than the CPU can, and on top of that, it free's the CPU's work load. The RAM is there just to store video data and screen images, and nowdays there's rarely a game that uses more than 512MB RAM. The GPU, the architecture of the card, the shaders etc etc all are way more important than the memory. An integrated card, like the name says, is integrated on the motherboard, it uses the CPU to process graphics and uses your main RAM as storing, therefore is a thousand times slower than a dedicated GC, or simply said, it's a pile of ****. To thread starter: I've noticed that you have a 4 GB Memory (RAM) but a 32 bit operating system, that means that you'll be actually able to use only slightly more than half of that memory, so, next time when you'll be formating your computer, install a 64 bit operating system. And get a dedicated Graphics Card, harder to put in than in a Desktop but still doable, but let the specialist do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 It doesn't work that way because RAM today means NOTHING. A dedicated graphics card, like the name says, is dedicated to processing everything related to graphics, it has it's own GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) which is constructed that way (different from the CPU, Central Processing Unit) so that it can perform certain calculations related to graphics way better than the CPU can, and on top of that, it free's the CPU's work load.The RAM is there just to store video data and screen images, and nowdays there's rarely a game that uses more than 512MB RAM. The GPU, the architecture of the card, the shaders etc etc all are way more important than the memory. An integrated card, like the name says, is integrated on the motherboard, it uses the CPU to process graphics and uses your main RAM as storing, therefore is a thousand times slower than a dedicated GC, or simply said, it's a pile of ****.. Well, I was right - but for all the wrong reasons - I knew it wouldnt work, I just got the exact method by which it wouldnt work wrong To thread starter:I've noticed that you have a 4 GB Memory (RAM) but a 32 bit operating system, that means that you'll be actually able to use only slightly more than half of that memory, so, next time when you'll be formating your computer, install a 64 bit operating system. And get a dedicated Graphics Card, harder to put in than in a Desktop but still doable, but let the specialist do it. Actually, thats not true - 32bit vista can write to 3.4/3.5gig of ram - so by changing to 64bit vista you dont gain a whole lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deo Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Actually, thats not true - 32bit vista can write to 3.4/3.5gig of ram - so by changing to 64bit vista you dont gain a whole lot. Oh yeah, Vista, Arhggg!!! Hope 7 won't be such a huge failure... Anyway, forgot to mention, a dedicated Mobile Card of around $60+ should be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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