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Okay, I have a side that is expected to do poorly in the 7th tier and have just played higher division Chelsmford in a friendly with a tweaked version and the counter-attacking was pretty damned good...
Made a lot of good opportunities and have changed the Treq to a SS because I wasn't getting anything from them as a Treq and have removed the playmaker role as it really wasn't working either. Lots of the best stuff came from my RM combo and I stuggled to get my wingback into the game until I focused play down there and looked for an underlap. Still a work in progress though.
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31 minutes ago, crusadertsar said:
You said BPD on Cover and then used a Stopper. To recreate a libero you need a sweeper role such as BPD with cover duty
Yeah I put the wrong one in like an idiot.
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3 minutes ago, James Greensmith said:
Yeah I was thinking this, during my team talks they always respond positively and on the dynamics screen, it’s all showing green and positive.
I’ll focus to be more easy on them during team talks - would you suggest what could be some good examples?
Well it depends. If you lost horribly to a team you should beat on paper (always check odds) then be harsh at the end. If you narrowly losing to sides equivalent or better then unlucky them. Take the pressure off if you can. All greens doesn't mean it's a good talk btw. What is going on when you look at your club atmosphere and team cohesion.
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Am fancying this as a formation maybe.
What do we reckon?
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I think the problem is getting the FM libero to work like the actual libero in these tactics. A BPD on cover was definitely something I'd consider. I have noticed in other tactics that BPD can tend to make Registas a little bit redundant as they, more often than not, bypass them completely which then makes the role a bit pointless. Just some things to consider anyways.
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The other issue is probably your team morale now as well. If you're in a funk then morale can keep that funk going despite the tactical tweaks you make. You're gonna need to gee your players back up and you'll start to see your results turn again. Be easier on them in team-talks now etc.
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Having been through great runs and poor runs one thing that I noticed is that your morale makes it likely to concede or score late equalisers. I went through a terrible run at the end of my first season not winning in 14 and when I was drawing or winning and I would concede a late equaliser/winner more often than not (and my morale was crap). New season and the morale is good and I find myself getting more last minute equalisers and winners. My personal take is that morale has quite a powerful modifying effect (too powerful IMHO but I can see the argument for it just look at Sheffield United this season) so when you're in whichever rut you are it can seem like it keeps happening.
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14 hours ago, Experienced Defender said:
My main concern would be the lack of defensive solidity, simply because you use both attack-minded and roaming roles on both flanks without any holding role in the midfield. This risk might be somewhat offset by the bottom-heavy nature of the system, but the question remains if that's going to suffice.
Up front, I would only reconsider the lone striker's role (not
duty), primarily in terms of the partnership with the SS. In that respect, I would prefer a more creative and generally mobile role, e.g. CF, TQ or DLF (if the first 2 are too demanding for your striker).Definitely more direct and oriented toward faster transitions, but not necessarily a pure long-ball (hoofball) style.
Yeah this chimes with my thinking and I hadn't thought about getting someone more roamy up front so that's an interesting idea. The flanks will be key so will experiment with just wingbacks maybe. It's pre-season so have time to mint this before the new one starts.
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Hey all.
I am currently in a decent position with tactics that deal with most of what my opponents throw at me but the best sides in my division tend to play 3-6-1s that just dominate both my more aggressive and more passive tactics. I seem to lose match-ups so want to develop my own utilising my good players.
I have two questions.
1. Are the roles selected here gonna work?
2. What style of football should I look to play? Long ball and winning headers won't serve me well as we have crap heading.
The roles.
CB, CB, CB
CW (A) REG (S) SV (A) CW (S)
SS (A) AM (S)
PF (A)
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Youth Update Summer 2022
So we're two intakes in although it is the Class of 2020 that dominates this team at the moment. Some shone while others were shown the door. Let's see who did what.
Class of 2020
Luther Blair (YP 0.1): A 6 appearance season for Luther as his slow acclimatisation process to goalkeeping legend continues. Averaged 7.07 with one clean sheet and ten goals conceded although three of them came in the Margate game and he wasn't really to blame for them. If we progress in the cups he'll get more game time but Joe Wright is a hard person to move at the moment. Pleasing progress from him though.
Tony Matovu (YP 0.2): A breakthrough season for Tony with playing over half our league games and four cup games too. He scored 10 goals in 27 starts which is an okay return including the memorable hattrick in the cup against Curzon Ashton. The staff think he is on the way to being good but I have questions about him leading the line in the 4-2-3-1 and those will need to be answered if he is going to become first choice striker.
Kieren Wabo (YP 0.3): Not a good season for young Kieren all considered with 6 starts, 14 sub appearances and a 6.46 average rating. Didn't impress when he started, stunk out the place when subbed on and generally showed no real reason why he should be persisted with. Next season is a big one for him with the two DMs in the latest intake. If he doesn't buck his ideas up he'll be fifth choice and heading for the door.
Raed Aghbaria (YP 0.4): With no other defensive options this was a big season of development for Raed as he played 35 league games as well as 5 cup games at an average of 6.73 which isn't bad at all for a young CB. He has rage issues which I don't understand, honestly, he is consistently angry in teamtalks and we're pals so it's not because of me. Coaches dig him and I do too. If he continues to develop he will be a key player in the spine of this team going forward.
Kofi Oseni (YP 0.5): Not a great season for Kofi with just 4 starts and 6 sub appearances at an average of 6.53. He's stuck because he doesn't really fit into the midfield of my more cautious 4-4-2 and he is competing with Ruffles in the 4-2-3-1. His versatility is possibly his downfall as he's not really nailing down a position which is criminal considering my hunt for a left-winger all season. Needs to take his chances next season or he might be doorwards.
Solomon Giddens (YP 0.6): Started slowly and didn't really shine in his cup appearance but an injury and a bit of loss of form for Alex Osborn gave Solomon a run and he took advantage of it showing enough good moves and potential in his 17 league starts to suggest he could replace Osborn full time. 3 goals and 4 assists at 6.72 is decent and I'll want to see him kick on and dominate more next year.
Jed Hudson (YP 0.7): The first player to be shown the door. Didn't play this season and with poor determination and better options than he I had no choice but to let him go. His Hornchurch career reads played 13 with 1 goal and and an average of 6.7. Reckon he could do a job down the pyramid so hope he finds a club.
Fabian Walker (YP 0.8): On the face of it 29 starts with 11 sub appearances and an average of 6.53 isn't good but no fullbacks were good until the fix just now and with good leadership and determination I feel he's worth persisting with, however, I will be expecting a marked improvement next season if he is to keep his place at LB.
Tim Johnson (YP 0.9): 28 starts at 6.45 is even worse but again it is caveated by the fact that fullbacks were crap and the only other RB was Louis Ramsey who hated me. There are more options at RB so Tim will have to start the season well if he wants to maintain his starting place but at the moment he is first choice.
Shawn Swannie (YP 0.10): 6 starts and 14 sub appearances at 6.69 is okay... it's not great and I did see him get turned inside out against the Youth Candidates team but Shawn is battling with Brian to be first reserve at CB and will have an opportunity to stake that claim further next season.
Brian Flanagan (YP 0.11): 6 starts but only 1 sub appearance for Brian as Shawn looked better than him when they both played together although I have a feeling that long term it might be Brian who makes it. Will be battling it out for first reserve next season.
Callum Stillman (YP 0.12): Probably the star of the season. Started very slowly and got dropped to the U23s for Josh Johnson but when he came back he was a different player and got he majority of his goals and assists. Ended up with 30 appearances with 6 goals and 5 assists at 6.8 which given his start was a very good return. He is now first choice at LW but there are others ready to pounce if he loses form again.
Josh Johnson (YP 0.13): Josh will not be one of them though. He was given a good run given Callum's early form but in 12 starts averaged 6.47 with just one goal and with better LW options than him I decided to let him go. Could do a job a step or two below I reckon but we'll have to wait and see.
Class of 2021
Bas Giligan (YP 1.1): 3rd choice at the moment and yet to get a game for us. Feel like I might need to put him in a cup game or two to see if he has it but by the looks of things he'll probably end up being an interim stop-gap until a better young keeper comes through. We're not stacked for keepers though so he does have a chance.
Daniel Gil (YP 1.2): The most talented player we have. His stats shot up and we've already had interest from National League sides but he was mostly hamstrung by the poor ratings at DM issue so his stats of 38 starts, 3 sub appearances and an average of 6.57 are, hopefully, not a true reflection of what he can provide to this side. Grabbed a goal and 4 assists from a deep position so the promise is there but next season is going to be a big one for Old Gil.
John Mott (YP 1.3): Somehow, someway John Mott came outta nowhere to play the most games this season and do you know what? He did alright. Playing as a Segundo in my double DM pivot he grew into the role and ended the season with 5 goals and 7 assists from 43 starts at 6.68. There is competition for his place but I am hoping, with the tweaks to ratings, he'll continue to excel.
Shawn O’Sullivan (YP 1.4): Not a great return from Shawn as the great 'let's sort out the LW' issue continued. An average of 6.48 from 8 starts and 12 sub appearances with just 2 assists to his name does not bode well for the lad. If he doesn't show signs of progress he'll be leaving at the end of next season.
Lee Waters (YP 1.5): Lee is a weird one. He made 3 sub appearances and scored a goal but his mentals worry me. He's got a touch of the Purcells about him and if 1-1 mentoring was still a thing I'd be straight on that. I reckon he should get more of a chance though as you can't train natural finishing technique despite how poor mentality is and at this level...
Romario Weir (YP 1.6): Romario ended up being an Jed Hudson upgrade and did nothing wrong in his 8 sub appearances this season averaging a decent 6.73. Whether he stays the course will depend on the two DMs in the intake below and whether CD becomes an issue if Flanno or Swannie don't step up. He's definitely more of a chance to make it than Jed did.
Class of 2022
Kevin Pierce (YP 2.1): Exploded onto the scene in the Youth Candidates game but didn't cover himself in glory in his 1 start (6.3). Earmarked as a Ruffles replacement he'll get a shot at showing what he can do next season and will probably be battling it with Kofi as first Ruffles reserve.
George McDonald (YP 2.2): Daniel Gil's back-up but played poorly in the last 3 games of the season when given his chance averaging just 6.37. Someway off the first team just yet but might well start putting pressure on Wabo and Weir if he develops.
Joe Fox (YP 2.3): Looks like he could be Lee Waters but with better mentals but didn't show anything in the 4 appearances he made towards the end of the season. Will be battling Lee for that third choice striker spot.
Courtney Dundas (YP 2.4): John Mott's understudy and performed okay in the last 3 games of the season. Has more of a chance than his classmate as there is less competition for Mott's place so will be first choice reserve with a chance to impress.
Yacoub Traore (YP 2.5): Came on twice towards the end of the season and was... underwhelming. Became our youngest ever player beating Gil by 3 days and will definitely have an opportunity to pressure Tim Johnson at RB.
Verdict
An interesting year for the class of 2020 especially. They were helped by the fact that we lost a lot of older first teamers in the Summer which especially helped Gil and Mott establish themselves. The newest intake has potential and I feel we're pretty well covered across the pitch. Next season some quality fullbacks and maybe a good goalkeeper would make me happy but overall a decent year of development.
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Around England and Europe 2021/22
A year of progress and no progress at all for the mighty Urchins but how did the rest of England and indeed the big European sides fare?
Another close title race in the Premier League saw Liverpool return to the summit after finishing third last season beating defending champions Man City into second. Tottenham and Chelsea round out the top four with Chelsea going somewhat backwards after being denied on goal difference last year. Manchester United also stepped back into sixth and the Europa league while Arsenal are being Arsenal. Last season's 7th placed side Wolves suffered a severe drop off and only just stayed up allowing Villa to claim the best of the rest title. Bournemouth and Norwich stayed up but Reading stunk the place out and were relegated very quickly along with West Ham and Fulham making it a bad season for London (adjacent) teams.
All who were relegated returned to the Premier League with Leeds absolutely hosing everyone and West Brom pipping plucky Brentford again. Palace managed to get up through the play-offs... who said the Championship was the least predictable league on earth? At the other end last season's League One champions Bristol Rovers stayed up but both Blackpool and Charlton earned an immediate return to League One followed by Wycombe whose luck has finally run out.
Peterborough claimed the League One title easily from relegated Rotherham who return to the 2nd tier at the first attempt. Coventry also managed to back an instant return to the Championship through the play-offs condemning Sheffield Wednesday to another season in the 3rd tier. Forest Green were the real surprise package having come up to League One through the play-offs and getting very close to back to back promotions. Their fellow promoted clubs didn't do so well with both Walsall and Cambridge earning instant returns to League Two although both Walsall and Accrington will feel quite hard done by as they would've stayed up last season with those point tallies. Oldham survive barely while the former Premier League trio of Hull, Sunderland and Ipswich sat dully in mid-table.
A close League Two title race saw Tranmere crowned champions ahead of Rochdale who were the only relegated side to challenge. Cheltenham and Newport (via the play-offs) join them in League One next season. Oxford at least challenged for the play-offs and Northampton were a point from them but the worst side relegated from League One was Plymouth who sat 21st, although not in any real danger. The two to drop into non-league were Port Vale and Harrogate allowing last season's promoted teams in Yeovil and Notts County a second season in the league.
Orient bounced straight back up but only just, winning the title by two goals. Chesterfield at least went up via the play-offs meaning Barrow will spend another season down in the National League. Dulwich were well out of the depth and went back to the National League South but Ebbsfleet survived only just meaning that it wasn't a perfect four who came up that went back down.
PSG easily seal another title in France with the usual suspects of Monaco, Lille, Lyon and Marseille in the top six. Rennes were the surprise package while Nice, who had a great season last time out really struggled. Promoted Guingamp had a great first season but Auxerre were well out of their depth and Reims weren't much better as they slide into the 2nd teir.
Not much change in the Bundesliga with Bayern marching to another title and all the usual suspects qualifying for Europe although Schalke crashed instead of Koln who were disappointing in the league this year. Paderborn stayed up but Hannover only just dropped out along with Union Berlin into Bundesliga 2 Electric Boogaloo.
Italy had the biggest story this year and the most interesting title race outside the Premier League with Lazio pipping Juventus to an 11th straight title. Is this a blip or is the era of the Old Lady over? Inter continue to be good enough for the top four but nothing more while Milan replaced Napoli in the Top 4 to get some of that sweet Champions League action. Roma returned to some kind of form to get Europe but Atalanta and Torino could not follow up on last season's successes. Salernitana and Empoli return to Serie B at the first time of asking in what was a fascinating five way relegation battle. Pordenone survived at Crotone's expense leaving Verona breathing a sigh of relief.
Barcelona won the league again although Atletico pushed them very hard. Madrid and Bilbao locked out the top four again. Sociedad improved on last season's placing and sealed Europe again and they were joined by an improving Valencia and Vilarreal with Sevilla missing out. The biggest shock was last season's European qualifiers Eibar dropping into the 2nd tier along with Huesca. This meant a great chance for the promotees and Girona managed to pip Leganes to survival. Espanyol did slightly better but it was a pretty tight battle for that last place from Elche down.
Man City sealed the Champions League to make up for not winning the Premier League to make it two out two for Manchester on this save and ironically it was Madrid's bitter rivals that City dispatched this time as well.
Meanwhile in the home of the Europa League in Seville Ajax stopped another Premier League clean sweep of Europe by beating Tottenham 2-0. (Arsenal won the Super Cup against Man Utd).
While the inaugural Conference League was won by Leverkusen shrugging of their Neverkusen tag. Tag that Denmark!
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Hornchurch Season Review 2021-22
A worse position than last year but one point better (and possibly a chance for more if I hadn't played the real kids in June). No run of 14 games without a win and without a whole host of senior players we had last year. This was a successful season thanks.
The Carshalton result was a big win (we did it to Lewes as well) and Tony's hattrick against Curzon was definitely a high point. Felt our results against Cray (the 3-2) and Margate (the 5-4) were proper rollercoasters. Ruffles goal against Bowers was good but there weren't any real 'pick 'em outs' this season so will go with the fans here...
The best XI is exactly as I would've called it despite the two DMS and the FBs being hamstrung by the ratings issue for much of the season.
Ruffles cleaned up in the club awards... fair enough.
The best XI is a little bit weird just now. Expecting Ramsey and Onyemah to be turfed next season and Ruffles will probably replace Kofi and Gil will probably replace him. Am pretty chuffed with Callum though who was definitely the breakout boy this season.
The squad shows that, weirdly, John Mott was the most played player this season so well done him for doing that and, TBF, despite his shankish rating 5 goals and 7 assists from midfield in his first season is pretty good all told. Gibbs, Wright and Ellis were very key as well as was Raed who was probably, along with Callum the key breakout this season.
As far as the dynamics are concerned Rickie Hayles is off at the end of June and that will be good as his negativity was stinking the place out. I'd expect to see Gil and maybe Walker in here next season if they develop well.
The vision is to survive which takes the pressure off. I did think saying mid-table would be good for the squad in the exit interview for the season but they were not fans so we'll continue to play the underdogs and move from there.
All is well then. The wages are a little bit out of whack at the moment but Ramsey and Hayles are off so we'll be back in the black. All in all an optimistic time down at The Bridge.
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June 2020 Update
The end of the season is here and the young 'uns were sent out to see what they were made of...
The Margate game was as bad as it looked but we rallied for the Worthing and Marlow games and it was late winners in each that cost us. Some disappointing performances but these were not easy games and it's all about the long-term development. Overall it's been a strong season and even if we did finish with three defeats on the bounce it's not 14 without a win like last year.
Worthing were indeed Champions with Leatherhead securing the final play-off spot (which we would've been a point off if we'd won all our games so...). Bowers do indeed go down and we finish five points ahead of Romford. A decent season.
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May 2022 Update
This time last season was the darkest timeline and with three of the top five to play and a derby I was expecting another chastening May...
A strange topsy-turvy month where comebacks were king. Romford went 2-0 up and we managed to get it back to 2-2 to give me a semi-decent birthday present (not that the press agreed). Then Cray came to town and scored in the 1st minute to throw all my plans out of the window and then went 2-0 up before half-time before a rousing comeback (and a missed pelanty) gave us a win with George Purcell returning from injury to give us three great points. He did it again against title chasing Bugess Hill who had gone 2-1 up with six minutes remaining after Tony Matovu had given us an early lead. We then repeated the months theme against the Casuals coming back from 2-0 down with Solomon Giddens coming off the bench to rouse us to a point. I never expected six points this month and certainly not in the fashion we got them. I guess I should be pleased that the team is showing good resilience. I just wish we'd start playing from the first whistle rather than the one after half-time...
Those six points see us beat last year's points tally with three games to go and leave us just four points off the play-offs. We couldn't could we? Actually no because I plan to integrate more youth players in these last three games because we are about the long term project here and not short-term play-off glory. Despite losing a slew of good players and playing with a mostly young team we're in a much better position than last season and having someone like George to come off the bench is great. As for the rest of the league Tonbridge look play-off assured and Worthing should seal the title in the next game while the final relegation spot looks between Bowers and Merstham. We're also pretty much guaranteed to finish ahead of Romford as well so... happy days.
Three left then. Hoping Worthing will be taking the foot right off the gas when the come to the Bridge and that Marlow's minds will be elsewhere. I reckon we could pick up some points in Margate though. Either way it's a cruise to the end of this one now.
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April 2022 Update
Player ratings are fixed, huzzahs! So we move into April.
And we don't sore goals anymore apparently. Defensively pretty good until I went for it against Enfield in the last fifteen minutes at 2-2 but only two goals from open play is a bit of a worry. We should've taken more from Potters Bar and Bowers and that's on us but the Merstham and Folkestone results were creditable. Enfield had the better of us even though we were at 2-2 and I always felt we were vulnerable so decided to go for it. Unfortunately we got scammed twice but that's the way it goes. Five points isn't the end of the world given we had a win and last April we didn't even know what that was but it's still a bit of a disappointing month.
I'd say we're more or less safe now with seven games to go and a gap of eighteen points so it might be the time for some new faces as we look to next season. Only five more points are needed to make last year's total.
There will be no experimentation till after the derby especially as it's on my birthday and you just know the game will troll me if we lose. After Romford we have three pretty tough games with a title challenging Burgess Hill and play-off chasers Cray and Casuals. Could be a messy month...
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1 hour ago, iownyou said:
Rating 5/10Overall I’d unfortunately have to say there are more negatives than positives. I can’t help but feel the FM20 match engine inadequacies actually balanced out the game and made it more difficult.
The same trashy AI squad building is apparent and the incorrect implementation of Brexit has damaged saves in England.
I do love watching matches now and not having the predictability of the robotic nature of the previous match engine though.
TBF in this version a 5/10 probably means SI have done well but the community hasn't registered their contributions properly because of a bug... am sure it'll be fine though.
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I don't but if it comes up again when I go back to the game I will provide one. Take it you're not replicating this at all then?
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48 minutes ago, BuzzR said:
I don't think the issue is related to custom editor files...
I've noticed the issue :
1. with an ongoing save since the moment of the update with no editor files
2. with a new save :
2.1. with a edited database
2.2. with default database
There is a general drop in ratings values with major impact on defensive players.
That's good. Thanks for the input.
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Also, and just a thought, how many people are having this happen and not using any custom editor files at all?
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I have uploaded my save to help with identifying this btw it is named 'Player Ratings Problems Wavelberry'
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13 hours ago, Neil Brock said:
As has been said in the other thread the issue is currently under review with our QA team and is being investigated. We're aware that defenders average ratings appear lower than they should be currently, but average ratings only have some affect on player transfer interest and value, so will not drastically affect how the gameworld plays out.
Thanks.
As mentioned above Neil it's not just value and interest that this affects. It means you are punished for playing more defensive football as player ratings are lower, the lower ratings transmit directly to the morale, board and fan confidence and poor performances hinder player development as well. It seems unfair that I could have a five star rated fullback play rubbish for me but move to a different division and suddenly be averaging 7+ after being on a 6.4 for me for over two seasons which is a situation in my save I am about to find myself in, or the most promising youngster I've ever had come through getting poor ratings because he is a DM with a defensive duty.
I'm glad it's been acknowledged and the QA team are investigating as I can't really go forward with my save atm until this is fixed.
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Yep, unless your player does something good in offense then they're gonna get a suck rating.
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10 minutes ago, Mr U Rosler said:
Anyone in the DM position doesn't stand a chance.
6.1, 6.2 ratings routinely. Getting no credit for tackles and headers.
Disappointing, needs a hot fix as a priority.
If they're attacking DM roles like a Segundo or the Regista they get better ratings but any defensive type of DM is done. My best player and my best prospect are a fullback and DM respectively and I can't continue the save without this being addressed.
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It won't let me include my save, it says it's too big even though it's not. Le sigh.
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No, You Can't Call Your Hornchurch Youth Only Save 'Horny for Kids'...
in FM Career Updates
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Pre-Season 2022 Update
With two more senior players in Louis Ramsey and Rickie Hayles leaving we've certainly turned over a fair few players in the last 14 months but we're probably a lot more stable than we were with the youth now staking their claims and having had another season under their belts.
This is pretty much the first XI at the moment with Mott and Dundas the biggest battle at SV. Mott had a poor pre-season so was dropped for the last few games but he has got goals for the U23s so may well start the first game of the season. Other than that we're pretty settled to start with.
A pretty wild pre-season in places. We eased to the Horny Chalice and were outclassed away at Dulwich before Callum grabbed all the goals against the teams we should've beaten. The 4-3 against Chelmsford was a good and memorable result and we followed it up with a good win at home against Boston before being outclassed by National League Barnet. We won the last two games fairly comfortably which points, to me, to another steady midtable season. We beat who we should, got a couple of decent underdog results and took a few batterings too. Standard.
The squad has potential and we have some decent cover in some positions. George Purcell is still here which is great for goal scoring and developmental reasons.
Predicted 21st due to the quality of the squad which must mean Brightlingsea's team are absolute *****. Kingstonian are favourites to go straight back up. We've been asked to avoid relegation by the board which is fine by me.
Not the easiest set of opening fixtures. Burgess Hill have caused us trouble and an early derby against Romford isn't particularly welcome. We face play-off fancied St Albans and Tonbridge before a possibly kinder end to the month. Gonna be a hot start and I'd be happy with 10 points quite frankly or maybe even 7. Either way it's time we started again...