trueblue9877

March 8

Especially if you tell the game to use your created tactic.

March 7

7 hours ago, Bahnzo said:

You just have to make sure you are rotating your squad so they aren't tired. I *never* start a player if his CON heart isn't green and full. Unless I don't have any other option at that position of course.

If you do this, I suspect your team will start to get back on course and winning again. If not, then you can start looking elsewhere and try to figure out what's happening.

So I have found quite a bit more consistency using this tactic most recently uploaded, what do you think of this?

March 6

1 hour ago, Bahnzo said:

You HAVE to fix your fitness. If what you are showing is how fit your players are going into a match, that's the #1 problem. And it's easy to tell, because none of your other players are in match shape, which shows us you aren't rotating.

Until you realize this, there's nothing tactically which will solve your problem.

So I have made some changes and have been seeing improved results with this style of play. So to fix the fitness what would you suggest?

March 6

2 hours ago, herne79 said:

The reason is that no 2 saves are the same.

In your case you have hit a downward spiral. As mentioned above, in your first save you enjoyed great success so your players were full of Morale and your opponents had adjusted their play style accordingly. In your second save, you started the season poorly so your players suffered Morale issues and your opponents played well against you. As has also been mentioned a lot of your team also have fitness issues which is just compounding things further - you’re continuing to play out of form players with bad morale rather than rotating in options.

What have you actually done to stop the downward momentum? Or have you just carried on regardless (which is folly)? There may well be tactical things you can change (why run at defence if you have one of the weakest teams in the league for example) so take a step back and consider if your players can actually play in the style that you are asking them to.

Finally I’ll also mention your own expectations. You massively overachieved in your original save. Remember that you are one of the worst teams in your division so the fact that you are still in 15th shows you’re doing well. It’s just that your expectations have now been set so high you now think you’re doing badly. You’re not.

Like when you notice a collapse in January and end up finishing 17th for 4 seasons in a row that is suspicious.

March 6

2 hours ago, herne79 said:

The reason is that no 2 saves are the same.

In your case you have hit a downward spiral. As mentioned above, in your first save you enjoyed great success so your players were full of Morale and your opponents had adjusted their play style accordingly. In your second save, you started the season poorly so your players suffered Morale issues and your opponents played well against you. As has also been mentioned a lot of your team also have fitness issues which is just compounding things further - you’re continuing to play out of form players with bad morale rather than rotating in options.

What have you actually done to stop the downward momentum? Or have you just carried on regardless (which is folly)? There may well be tactical things you can change (why run at defence if you have one of the weakest teams in the league for example) so take a step back and consider if your players can actually play in the style that you are asking them to.

Finally I’ll also mention your own expectations. You massively overachieved in your original save. Remember that you are one of the worst teams in your division so the fact that you are still in 15th shows you’re doing well. It’s just that your expectations have now been set so high you now think you’re doing badly. You’re not.

That's not what is happening though, even if you start the season strongly at the end of January the opposition team will experience a sharp rise in XG making it not possible to win anymore, every save is not the same but I am experiencing the same thing over and over again no matter what you change the opposing team will be getting 1.5 XG consistently.

March 6

11 hours ago, Bahnzo said:

When you start winning, the AI starts playing harder against you. They initially don't consider you a threat, so after winning, they will start to press you harder and man mark you.

It's been my experience when that starts to happen, and you don't have the world class team you will have later, you have to start playing a more uptempo game, more direct and maybe try to play more route 1.

it's also important to consider your roles and how they work with each other. I don't know that I see any problems with yours, but you definitely have to look and see if you have any holes in your team, as the AI seems they will start to exploit those now.

For me, it was about swallowing my pride for a few seasons and playing a counter attack style, instead of the possession based one I want to play. Once I did that, I started to win again.

I have tried that and got pretty much the same results.

March 5

9 minutes ago, crusadertsar said:

If you put it that way, maybe FM is just not for you. It's a hardcore sports management simulation game, not a Pokemon-like collection game like FIFA.

Then explain why I'm first place in the league with the worst team in the league and made the DFB Pokal beating several Bundesliga teams, just look at the screenshot, then explain why opponents are getting 0.50 XG more per game if you reload the save.

March 5

1 hour ago, Karlo said:

This is your 100th topic where you claim that your tactics have stopped working, when are you going to follow the well-intentioned advice given in your 100 previous topics?

And this is the 99th time that you have popped up to make a similar statement. How can you not comprehend that I have mentioned that it has happened at least 6 times that a tactic has worked for a season and then completely stopped working after said season and will still stop working even if you start a brand new save

But people will say "Oh that's just FM" "Your team talks are demoralizing" "Your players aren't good enough"

It is literally that you can start one season with a team I was first in the league on XG table and then you start a new season with the same team and you now see the opposing team's XG rise by at least 0.50 per game

Even if someone does give helpful advice the game will make it not work after a season or two this will happen consistently

Then there will be people like you just talking and not helping who don't know what they're talking about

It's not like FIFA where you can control the game you're dependent on the match engine and when the match engine decides that opposing teams will get 1.00 XG per game against you in one season then that suddenly jumps to 1.50XG the next year or even if you start the exact same season again in a new save that makes no sense.

Keep trying to make snide comments though champ I'm sure you're proud of yourself, fool.

March 5

8 hours ago, Cloud9 said:

I'd say it's a fatigue problem based on everyone on the bench having 0 match fitness.

I meant that if you start a brand new save with the exact same team and the same players not continuing this same save into a new season.

March 5

So I am playing in the German 2 Bundesliga and am using this tactic, playing as one of the worst teams in the league I was able to win the league in the first season and was also 1st in the XG table, I was promoted however the save got corrupted and I wasn't able to load the save so I started a new save with the same team.

The only problem is that the tactic has completely stopped working and I have now dropped to 15th place with significantly worse XG scores, how can I reverse this?

February 19

48 minutes ago, NineCloudNine said:

I didn't suggest you play a mid-block or or use that radically different formation. You've had a few suggestions here. You haven't said thanks and you don't seem to like what's been suggested, so bye and good luck!

I said thanks after your first comment, plus the only reason I showed the other tactics is because like the other ones what you suggested didn't work.

February 19

2 hours ago, NineCloudNine said:

I was looking at the tactic in the post a couple above mine, which has a DM-D, BWM and CM-A.

Overall I think that to defend better you need to be more proactive, not add more D duties, and to look to be more compact, leaving less space and being harder to play through. You have a high and aggressive press, including pressing the GK, plus counter. All this pulls your team out of shape and makes you vulnerable to quick, press-resistant teams like the better ones you are struggling against.

You may still lose to top teams anyway. Chelsea are a long way off the best teams in the PL at the moment and your experience reflects that.

Well the thing is that even with a mid block as can be seen here you get the exact same results.

February 19

1 minute ago, NineCloudNine said:

Having a GK-D, two CD-D and a DM-D might look like it should be defensively sound but in practice this is a very passive defence. They will also take low risk options which might well mean punting it long and giving possession away. As RL Chelsea discovered this weekend, top teams will find a way past a deep, passive defence eventually. Rolling ball out also means you are giving the ball to defenders who are being told not to take any risks. Either remove that instruction or make at least one CD a BPD, IMO.

On the other hand you have a very attacking front 4-5, but no playmaker, and you’re telling the team to run at defence. They are likely to be giving the ball away a lot and then getting counter-attacked through an empty midfield. I would remove that instruction.

Having a W-A and a CM-A on the same side is likely leaving a large gap down your left side. I personally don’t like W-A because it is very one-dimensional (run to byline and cross). Also seems a bit of a waste of Cole Palmer’s all-round game. I’d swap him and Sterling and make them both IW-S.

Thanks, I can see how run at defence would lead to more turnovers but there are two midfielders holding and there's a dlp so I kind of thought that would be a source of playmaking.

February 19

8 hours ago, Cloud9 said:

Height on your DM will help shore things up against counter attacks.

Other changes:

Have one of your wingbacks sit as a FB(s) and move ur DLP(s) to a non holding role. If you want to keep the DLP, switch to a 4-2-3-1. With this high quality player, a BPD could be a nice addition to the backline.

Caicedo is a bit wasted on a CM(a) imo, SV could be a decent alternative. You could always try a flat 3 DMs, which would give you the platform to keep both wingbacks going forward.

So I tried that but pretty much the same thing kept happening.

February 19

I've been having great difficulty against top half teams especially away from home, against big 6 teams away it's almost impossible to win but I've tried going to a balanced mentality and somehow the defence has got worse so just looking for hints.

February 19

February 8

What changes would you make in this system to make it more adept to playing as they away team / underdog.

January 22

@Bahnzo @Cloud9

So I have tried to make some changes and have seen some different results, I now consistently have one of the better attacks but also one of the worst defences when using the new tactic however, I'm not sure what I can do to improve the defending here.

January 20

I have been playing as Grimsby Town and have been doing quite well for the strength of the team using this tactic

Then in the second season ( 3rd and 4th screenshot) I noticed that the tactic stopped working completely even though the team is pretty much composed of the same players if not some slightly better ones, how can I counter this?

January 18

XG scores from the season where I was using this tactic.

January 18

On 18/12/2023 at 07:36, Johnny Ace said:

You do like your mirrored tactics @trueblue9877

I would mix it up a bit & I've never been a fan of lone TF's, I always like another strike partner with them

Okay so I did that and ended up with this which has been working quite well, is there anything here that would stick out as needing to be changed as a team that is expected to ginish 17th or lower in a league?

Also I was trying to play a 4-4-2 but for whatever reason there was no defence as you can see in the other tactic.

In the last two screenshots you can see another tactic that I was trying that was working with teams of a particular strength but then completely doesn't work if I am playing as a weaker team e.g. (the opposing team's XG scores go up by at least double if I am playing as a team with media predicted odds of 50-1) how can I prevent this.

December 16, 2023

November 25, 2023

I have been playing in VNS and was using this tactic.

In the first season I made the playoffs with a media predicted 18th placed team but then in the second season I was sacked within 5 months despite not changing the tactic and having more or less the same players.

What changes can I make here to get more consistent seasons?

October 21, 2023

Being a newly promoted team I would like to know what tactical hints and tips that I can use to help prepare for next season.

I was predicted to be the worst team in the league but was able to finish comfortably mid table despite overperforming XG by a lot so I'm just wondering what I can do to not have to rely on luck as much.

October 1, 2023

I started a new season with the same team + some tactical tweaks and also got a few more players in on loan / free transfer and my team media prediction went from expected 20th -100 to a prediction of 12th -50 odds to win the league and I managed to win the playoffs and get promoted

The only problem is that how can I know when a team is ready to compete because obviously it's pretty much the same tactic but in the season where my team was expected to be 16th I was sacked before March

And it's in the same league too so there's no way that telling the team to press a bit higher can lead to such varying results right?

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