fabioke Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Just came across this when looking for thoughts about FM16. I didn't reboot, just closed my previous game and was using Outlook for a couple of work emails ...CPU: I5 2500K CPU Frequency: 4500 MHz RAM: 8GB 1600 MHz CL9 OS: Win 7 64-bit Storage: SSD - game on HD Time: 3 min 47 sec (ran it again - 3 min 49 sec) I suspect there's too many variables involved for this test to be called totally meaningful to be fair. I have found this thread very useful. Almost bought the I7 5820K or even worse the i7 5960x. Great CPU's but currently not the best choice for FM only players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Unless you want to play with a large number of leagues & in full detail an i7 is an unessesary expense for if you only run FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugo23 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Results updated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsikkila Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Ok this comes a bit late as the FM 16 is just behind the corner but I wanted to do this for a long time. I tested the speed with stock settings and different overclocks to find out what affects most to the speed of FM. And here are my results. Stock BIOS settings CPU: AMD Phenom II 955BE CPU Frequency: 3200Mhz RAM: 16GB 1333 MHz CL9 OS: Linux Mint 17.2 64bit Storage: SSD Time: 12 min 03 sec Only CPU clocked CPU: AMD Phenom II 955BE CPU Frequency: 4000Mhz RAM: 16GB 1333 MHz CL9 OS: Linux Mint 17.2 64bit Storage: SSD Time: 10 min 13 sec CPU and northbridge clocked, memory reduced to 8gb for better memory speed CPU: AMD Phenom II 955BE CPU Frequency: 4080Mhz RAM: 8GB 1599 MHz CL9 OS: Linux Mint 17.2 64bit Storage: SSD Time: 9 min 47 s And max perfectly stable overclock I could get. CPU: AMD Phenom II 955BE CPU Frequency: 4300Mhz RAM: 8GB 1639 MHz CL9 OS: Linux Mint 17.2 64bit Storage: SSD Time: 9 min 22 sec I actually tried to do some extra research and do it quite carefully. I didn't just stare at the GHz and MHz of cpu and memory but I also tested each run of FM week holiday in comparison to Geekbench results. Also kept all the other variables the same for each run. Then I did some spreadsheet analyzing of the results of FM time and different scores of Geekbench (integer, floating point, memory) and using Pearsons correlation I tried to analyze which part of the geekbench result had correlation to FM time. And interestingly correlations where following: Integer single -0.9973 Integer multi -0.9956 Floating point single -0.9980 Foating point multi -0-9997 Memory single -0.7875 Memory multi -0.7847 Do notice that I only had 4 different tests to analyze which is quite few. That is because clocking, stability testing and FM run together took about 40 min for each test. But still it is quite clear that FM benefits most of CPU speed and memory has not that much of a impact. I would be interested to try some extra testing (for example shutting down weakest cores of cpu and try to get more clock speed and see what happens) but maybe I'll leave that for the FM 16. Also I noticed many other things affecting the speed and explaining some interesting previous results there was but maybe I'll write some more later in an own thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feriboy2 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Also I noticed many other things affecting the speed and explaining some interesting previous results there was but maybe I'll write some more later in an own thread. Please do! I want to buy a new pc just because of fm (currently thinking about a pentium g3258 overclocked to 4.5 ghz hopefully ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Someone posted about his game speed in this thread http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/444115-Game-Slowing-As-Years-Progress?p=10595292&viewfull=1#post10595292 : "around 15 minutes per month on my all-player all-league is around my sim speed on FM16, whereas it took around an hour on FM15 (same setup)" EDL from SI replied: "We made some optimisations this year which will have a bigger impact with larger savegames, which explains what you are seeing there." The FM 2016 thread is going to be very interesting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 CPU: i7-920 @ 4000MHzRAM: 6GB 1537Mhz OS: Win 7 64bit Storage: HDD Time: 5m32s Had to test the new laptop CPU: i7-6820HK @ 2.7Ghz (Turbo Boost 3.6Ghz) RAM: 16GB 2133Mhz OS: Win 10 Storage: SSD (850 Evo) Time: 5m10s A bit quicker than my almost 7 year old desktop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Results updated. Are you going to do a FM 16 version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 There's nothing stopping you doing one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 There's nothing stopping you doing one. I don't want to steal his thunder. IMHO, only if he's not willing to do them anymore then we need to look for alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I was/am going to set a new one up at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I was/am going to set a new one up at the weekend. Wouldn't it be better to wait for the new patch, so that we have a level playing field for the results? Despite my post about this subject I will be looking forward to it and I will be posting my results! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugo23 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 I've been really busy last few months, and I still don't own FM16. Whoever wants to start new thread, just go ahead, I will enjoy reading it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon879 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Did a new thread get started, or are we waiting for the latest patch to release to make results directly comparable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 No new thread, I'll be starting one when the final update is released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon879 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Ok great. Currently toying with the idea of a system upgrade and would be interesting to see if there is any difference between the current i5-6600k and i7-6700k processors. I remember that SI optimised the game for Hyperthreading some years ago, but I'm not sure if this still makes much of a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 They actually made further improvements to the use of HT technology for FM16, previously only the full match engine used it whereas now the transfer module also employs HT to crunch the numbers. I ran a very quick test the other week & saw an almost 30% improvement when running an FM15/FM16 comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon879 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 That's great, means the 6700k may be the way to go to take advantage of HT in that case. I remember SI making a song and dance about HT at the time they first introduced it. Hadn't heard anything since, so thought it may have become less of an issue or less supported. That's an impressive improvement. I had noticed a good speed increase in general processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 They actually made further improvements to the use of HT technology for FM16, previously only the full match engine used it whereas now the transfer module also employs HT to crunch the numbers.I ran a very quick test the other week & saw an almost 30% improvement when running an FM15/FM16 comparison. Really curious how this is going to impact my I5 2500K (no hyper) vs my I7 2670QM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon879 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Another thing that I would be interested to see is whether the new m.2 PCI-e SSDs have much impact on the performance of FM compared to a standard SATA III SSD. Does anyone have one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Another thing that I would be interested to see is whether the new m.2 PCI-e SSDs have much impact on the performance of FM compared to a standard SATA III SSD. Does anyone have one? The SSD would only help for saving and loading games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon879 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 The SSD would only help for saving and loading games. Is there no loading from disk during gameplay? Is everything loaded in to RAM? Even player faces, skin graphics etc? I presumed there seems to have been an increase in page loading times over recent years. If this is so, then RAM frequency and latency might we be second most important as it is more down to how quickly the data can be extracted and processed from RAM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECAP Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Ok great. Currently toying with the idea of a system upgrade and would be interesting to see if there is any difference between the current i5-6600k and i7-6700k processors. I remember that SI optimised the game for Hyperthreading some years ago, but I'm not sure if this still makes much of a difference. see post #100, don't expect more than 12-15% for almost double price, spend those on bigger SSD or better GFX card. overclocking is an option too as you look @ "K" versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabioke Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I've been really busy last few months, and I still don't own FM16. Whoever wants to start new thread, just go ahead, I will enjoy reading it. Football Manager 16 Benchmark Thread: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/454853-Football-Manager-16-Benchmark-Thread FM16 seems faster, can't wait to try it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Hopefully we'll start to see a wider range of system configurations over the coming weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsten 75 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 CPU: Intel Core I7 6700K CPU Frequency: 4200 MHz Ram: 16 GB 2133 OS: Win 10 64-bit Storage: SSD Time: 3 Minutes 54 Seconds I just saw that in my Bios the Ram was not listed with correct MHZ. I changed to 2133 MHZ and run the test again and overclocked my CPU to 4300 MHz.... Time: 3 Minutes 46 Seconds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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