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    Each team that qualified to european cups should start from 2nd round of Polish Cup (they start from 1st round in beta version).
    Because of that in 22/23 season there should be 56 teams drawn in 1st round (64 in beta version): 16 winners of regional cups (teams that played in 3rd League or lower in 21/22 season), 14 teams that played in Ekstraklasa in 21/22 season and do not qualify to european cups, 16 teams that played in 1st league in 21/22 season and ended on places 1-16, 10 winners of preliminary round.
    In preliminary round there should be 20 teams: 2 teams that played in 1st League in 21/22 season and ended on places 17-18, 18 teams that played in 2nd League in 21/22 season. All pairs in preliminary round are determined by results in 21/22 season. Pairs are defined as follow:
    17th (1st League) - 18th (2nd League)
    18th (1st League) - 17th (2nd League)
    1st (2nd League) - 16th (2nd League)
    2nd (2nd League) - 15th (2nd League)
    3rd (2nd League) - 14th (2nd League)
    4th (2nd League) - 13th (2nd League)
    5th (2nd League) - 12th (2nd League)
    6th (2nd League) - 11th (2nd League)
    7th (2nd League) - 10th (2nd League)
    8th (2nd League) - 9th (2nd League)
    Description (unfortunatelly only in polish) is on polish FA site: https://www.pzpn.pl/public/system/files/articles/10275/4665-Regulamin Pucharu Polski 2022-2023.pdf
    For next seasons, if different number of polish clubs will qualify to european cups then different number of clubs will start in preliminary round of polish cup (e.g., if 5 polish clubs will qualify to european cups, then 54 clubs will participate in 1st round of Polish Cup and 22 teams will participate in preliminary round (teams 15th-18th from 1st League and all clubs from 2nd League).
    Also reserve teams can participate in Polish Cup. In 22/23 edition of Polish Cup Reserve teams of following Clubs participated:
    Slask, Lech (both started in Preliminary round as teams from 2nd League), Pogon, Legia (both started in 1st round as regional cup winners).

    List of teams and their incorrect starting rounds in Polish Cup are as follow:
    Baltyk Gdynia (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Chelmianka (preliminary round in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Chojniczanka (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Concordia Elblag (1st round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Garbarnia (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    GKS Jastrzebie (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    GKS Wikielec (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Gornik Polkowice (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality*)
    Hutnik Krakow (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    KKS Kalisz (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    KP Starogard (preliminary round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Lech (1st round in beta, 2nd round in reality)
    Lech II (do not participate in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Lechia (1st round in beta, 2nd round in reality)
    Lechia Dzierzoniow (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Lechia Tomaszow (preliminary round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Lechia Zielona Gora (preliminary round in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Legia II (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Legionovia (1st round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Motor (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Okocimski (preliminary round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Olimpia Elblag (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Olimpia Zambrow (1st round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Podhale (1st round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Pogon (1st round in beta, 2nd round in reality)
    Pogon II (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Pogon Grodzisk Maz (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Pogon Nowe Skalmierzyce (1st round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Pogon Siedlce (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Polonia Bytom (1st round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Polonia Sroda Wlkp. (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Radomsko (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Radunia (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Rakow (1st round in beta, 2nd round in reality)
    Rekord B-B (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Ruch (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Ruch Wysokie Maz. (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Slask II (do not participate in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Sleza (preliminary round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Sokol Ostroda (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Sparta Brodnica (preliminary round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Stal Brzeg (1st round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Stal Rzeszow (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Start Jelowa (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality, do not exist in bets)
    Swit Skolwin (preliminary round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Unia Janikowo (1st round in beta, do not participate in reality)
    Wieczysta Krakow (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Wigry Suwalki (do not participate in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Wisla Pulawy (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)
    Zawisza (do not participate in beta, 1st round in reality)
    Znicz Pruszkow (1st round in beta, preliminary round in reality)

    *Gornik Polkowice should play in preliminary round against GKS Belchatow, but GKS resigned from participation in Polsih Cup and polish League and Gornik Polkowice qualified to 1st round)


    The next problem is connected with draw rules.
    In beta there is: "Lower division team plays at home, or, if both teams are from the same division, then the previous year's worst league team plays at home" In realiy there is only "Lower division team plays at home". If two teams are from the same division, then firstly drawn team plays at home.


     

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    Kyle Brown

    Kyle Brown 2,412 Administrators

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    Can you please raise the teams qualifying for the correct round in the Database forum, please?

    For everything else, we've got under review, thank you. 

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    Bigpole

    Bigpole 707 Moderators

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    On 09/03/2023 at 16:11, Zachary Whyte said:

    Hello, we believe this to be resolved now, can you confirm?

    I don't think it was resolved. I did a quick simulation recently and the problem still exists. First rounds are still drawn incorrectly.

    I can imagine that regional cup winners will be hard to implement (because these cups are not created in default polish database and sometimes winners are not even in the database) but at least game should recognize 'the best' team of each region (even picked randomly by reputation) and add them to the correct round (in this case first, not preliminary).

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