Interesting read (about man utds pre season fitness)

Reading this conversation from the man utd website made me look at my own teams fitness in football manager and kind of inspired me to change things around...unfortunately we cant go that indepth in the game but maybe something for si to look at in the future as this is the kind of stuff that makes the difference with each team and manager!!

let me know you thoughts............

First-class fitness

First-team fitness coach Tony Strudwick sits down with ManUtd.com's Nick Coppack...

Tony, what went on back at Carrington before the team flew out to America?

We have a structure here where the first two days back are pretty much screening and testing. Much of that is to establish where the players are at and where their weaknesses lie. There are more functional screens and medical screens with Dr Steve McNally. We need to know where the players are at and what their priorities are to get them right for the first game of the season in August. Beyond that, we've pretty much gone into the football really early this year. Other years, we've had a little bit longer. But the first game [against New England Revolution] was nine days in, so the priority in the first week was to expose the players back to football and integrate that with the levels of conditioning. Much of the conditioning work is completed within a football environment. The classic pre-season of running up hills and running for eight miles is out of the window. Now it's all about base work in a football environment.

Friendly games don't matter so much to fans but the pre-seaon tour is massively important to you, right?

I think the way we look at the pre-season games is that we want them to give us every opportunity to get it right for the first away game at West Brom. Consequently, the players need enough exposure to be in the right frame of mind for that. Pretty much what you saw in Boston was some players getting 45 minutes but, because we only had 17 outfield players there (most of our Under-21 players are linking up in Seattle), three players had to play 90 minutes. We had to identify the players we felt could cope with that 90 minutes so soon after coming back from holiday. Before West Brom on the first day of the season, we'll be looking at the appropriate exposure rates for each player on the tour in terms of game time and we build that up gradually until we hit the Community Shield. Then we'll give whoever needs it 90 minutes at Wembley so they're in top shape for West Brom.

When do you want the players to hit their peak?

Ideally, we have to hit peak on day one of the season at West Brom. In realistic terms, some of the players won't hit peak until the back end of September, believe it or not. It's just the way individuals react and it's down to the manager to establish where he feels players are at and adjust his starting XI accordingly. But, typically, some of the older guys get up to speed pretty quickly because they've got training exposure behind them and don't lose a lot in the off-season. Generally, they've got less of a margin to make up. Remember Paul Scholes last year - he started brilliantly with his performances in the Community Shield and the first day against Newcastle when he was man of the match. So you see that different players are all individuals and react differently so it's up to us to identify what their needs are and that's where the details change. Going back 10 to 15 years, fitness preparation was at team level. Now it's so individualised and bespoke. Even when we do gym sessions we have a generic structure put in place but, in and around that, we've got different individuals doing different things. It's why we need the level of staff we've got. We can't have attention to detail with just one or two key members of staff.

Is that the difference between United and lower division clubs?

I think so. I would guess it's the detail and the resources. The manager has been fantastic in growing this sports science department and it's really well supported by David Gill, who has a vision going forward - not just building a sports science department now but one for the future.

There's a long-term plan and a new facility, an extension at Carrington, so, from the sports science point of view, the club has been fantastic. We have to do that in the modern game, though, or else we'll get left behind. Pre-season is an important period for us, an important time for the strength team and sports science team, but it's an annual programme. It's not like we bring in a fitness team for pre-season and then, in six to 10 weeks, get rid of them when you start playing football. It's an ongoing thing now, although I must admit that pre-season is the most enjoyable time for me. There's not the intensity in the results of the games - it's about physical preparation and it's a priority from our department's point of view. We like that responsibility, it's challenging for us and enjoyable.

You have a lot of technology at your disposal. What, exactly, do you measure and monitor?

We can monitor pretty much everything: sleep patterns, every run, sprint, spike in performance... We have the capacity at Carrington to do blood analysis, saliva analysis and it can go as scientific or in-depth as you like. The big decisions for us to make now are around that data and deciding what's actually important and what are the important markers to compare ourselves to. By and large, we've bought into heart-rate technology and GPS technology a lot. We feel we have a good understanding of that and have got the computer systems in place at Carrington now to make the most of that. We've also invested in a system that monitors where players are at in terms of daily wellness.

Are the players into the scientific side of things?

Athletes are generally interested in performance and measuring themselves against others and themselves. They are definitely interested and it's part of an ongoing education system. The long-term vision will be almost like a triage system where players come in the morning, we screen them and identify any risk to their health and performance, they go onto another test on the iPad to tell us how they're feeling and then onto in-depth saliva and blood markers. That's where we are at and Dr. Steve McNally has been a big part of that and it's changed the working day for the average footballer. There's now a lot more monitoring and preparation, more gym work than in the past, and that's where we feel the game is going. We have to be on top of it. Players have an expectation now when they come to Manchester United. There's an expectation when players come from other clubs who have got good systems in place that we will provide at least the same level of analysis and detail. We hope to do that - the best players demand the best service and, of course, deserve it. We've got to step up to the plate and do that.

Fine margins can have a big impact in football. Is it as simple as saying, 'If we can increase a player's vertical jump by one centimetre, it can make a difference between a goal being scored or not'?

Definitely, and the modernisation process was epitomised last year with Javier Hernandez. There was a terrific recruitment drive and scouting process in place around his transfer and a lot of monitoring went on when he arrived. He came in and we identified where he was at and what needed work. The testing strategies meant a lot of work then went in to developing the player to play in the Premier League, to cope with the rigours of the Premier League. You have to remember, the English game is different from what a lot of players are used to. It's a very unique league, physically demanding, and we need to do all we can to support the players and give them every chance of performing well on a Saturday afternoon.

The work with Javier seems to suggest your techniques are working...

[Head of strength and conditioning] Gary Walker did an immense amount of work with Javier last year and Gary has got his priorities this year with the new signings. Those guys are major priorities for the sports science team. There's a new goalkeeper, of course, and he's going to be working a lot with [goalkeeper coach] Eric Steele. We've got to match the athlete with the demands that are going to be placed upon him and that's what sports science is all about.

The one down side from a player's point of view with all these advancements is that they can't hide during pre-season!

No, they can't. We're very fortunate with the players here though. By and large, they all work very hard and wouldn't have got to this level without exceptional ability a good level of professionalism. At other clubs, you maybe get one but don't get the other. I have to say, everybody has shown good focus in the last two weeks since returning from their summer breaks. In some ways it's felt a lot smoother than last season when we didn't have the World Cup players and one or two others were injured - Michael Owen, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick... This year, things are looking good.

Epic read!

Would be nice if some of the above was incorporated into FM - not sure how it could be done but the assessment of players at the very start of the pre-season and the checking of their health and so on would be a great addition, a lot more analysis and in depth report on day one/two. I would welcome that kind of input from the head coach re the players current situation, and what they assess the players needed to do re extra training, specific training, game play, fitness levels etc.

Of course I would expect that certain issues outlined in the OP would and could only be implemented depending on the size and richness of the club and clubs would develop these additions, improvements the higher they went up the leagues and so forth.

Good read worthwhile thinking about in my opinion.

I would like to see something changed about the way pre-season is done. Currently, I play 6-7 friendlies and that's it. I don't even change my training schedule and always start the season well.

Agreed, i dont really change my pre season because it doesnt seem important-plus they just moan! would love to get involved with pre season properly and be able to analyze each player -like a player has come back from leave a stone heavier so now needs special dietry requirement and put on a different training ragime( like darren fletcher). We dont have to do the food choices and get involved in that sense but just get more feedback from the fitness coaches.

brilliant read, Maybe my manager needs to read this..