Black_Waltz Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 As part of the club and country challenge, I was looking at taking a small nation to the top of the world and their domestic competitions by building up players in a youth system. Been trying it with the Canadian team Toronto FC, but they lack regens that are linked to your own facilities so it seems a bad choice. Was going to start a game as Cardiff, instead, and use them to build Wales up to World standard but I read somewhere that in reality Welsh clubs playing in the English leagues are banned from European competitions. Is this carried over into FM2011? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I think UEFA overturned that rule, so Welsh clubs like Cardiff, Swansea etc would be eligible for Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdanio Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Yes, UEFA overturned this a year or 2 ago. I don't think FM ever imposed the ban though, I remember taking Swansea to the Champions League final around Fm07 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontask Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 welsh clubs were banned as they are still under the control of the welsh fa even though they play in the english league. so they could only be in europe if the welsh fa entered them. but the rule got altered after cardiff reached the fa cup final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelicanstuff Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 It was actually the FA who overturned the rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Waltz Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 Awesome, thanks for the quick replies. Had thought things may have moved on, but always best to check with you knowledgable people. Now let the Celtic domination of the world begin! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCisHere Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I'm fairly sure this was never a rule, just a misunderstanding on the part of the FA. The FA believed that they would not be allowed to enter Cardiff due to them being a "Welsh" team. But it must have been UEFA I guess that clarified it, stating that National Federations are allowed to select any teams they want. So in theory, the FA does not even have to select the top 4 placed teams to enter in the Champions League. They could easily select the top 4 from League 2. At least as far as I understand it. I could be totally and utterly wrong, but I seem to recall reading this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I'm fairly sure this was never a rule, just a misunderstanding on the part of the FA. The FA believed that they would not be allowed to enter Cardiff due to them being a "Welsh" team. But it must have been UEFA I guess that clarified it, stating that National Federations are allowed to select any teams they want. So in theory, the FA does not even have to select the top 4 placed teams to enter in the Champions League. They could easily select the top 4 from League 2. At least as far as I understand it.I could be totally and utterly wrong, but I seem to recall reading this... They're allowed to set their own criteria for how they assign European slots. Like how in some countries, the League Cup winners doesn't have a Europa League spot (Scotland), and some leagues have playoffs to determine European places (Holland/Belgium). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelicanstuff Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/cardiff_city/7294461.stm seems to sum it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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