[Reserve Leagues Clash and League Rules]

League shown is the u21 league of the Jupiler Pro League. Not the 1st national amateur league (3rd tier).

Teams not participating in those are the U23 teams which operate in regular division starting 2nd tier.

 

as for u19 teams : they are actually present, starting down the 1st amateur division. In general it is : 1st team squad / reserve teams / u19 team / u 17 team.

where national pro teams it is : u23 or u21 / u18 / u16

 

[Reserve Leagues Clash and League Rules]

On 15/04/2024 at 11:15, Zachary Whyte said:

Hello @burakcakil

Thank you for the information, we won't be able to make any of these changes for FM24 but can get them logged internally for a future game.

Would you able to provide some evidence for the substitution rules?

@Zachary Whyte

data to be corrected has been passed on to internal services.

 

[24.3 update changed every contract below the third tier (first national amateur division) to amateur instead of the right part/full time contracts]

Again, The leagues are amateur leagues. Teams are amateur teams. as Belgian FA sources, guideline books of clubs & competitions specify. 

Individual players can have pro contracts, but no data available upon that.

This won't be reversed, unless you can prove me on inividual teams that they are pro teams. Upon valid sources, (no Wiki or TM).

 

 

[24.3 update changed every contract below the third tier (first national amateur division) to amateur instead of the right part/full time contracts]

not on Wiki sources. ACFF/Voetbalvlaanderen Book B/Title 3/ Clubs & Title 7 / Competitions. If proof given of individual teams being sth else I can modify on that behalf.

problems with funding and budgets/wages

not at this moment

[Jano Willems (Club NXT) wrong height]

thanks for flagging!

Has been added for the 25 update.

All input is highly appreciated

[Maxim Kireev (Lierse) new declared nation]

Has been adjusted , but won't be in 24 updates.

[Why are Union SG nerfed on the game?]

Again, the tone of your arguement is not really 'friendly'.

 

They are equal to Cercle upon season untill 2023/2024. These will only change after the season has finished, Same goes for caps, first matches and so on. Reputations of clubs don't get changed during the year.

Start of the game is june 2023, so that is the 'photograph-date'. All above mentioned criteria do not get updated.

 

There is a way higher (20 points) PA for Union in the behind the scenes input. So the margin of becoming a bigger club is way higher.

Players (especially 1st team) did get an update.

Upon calculating the general reputaion ingame way more stuff is taken in credit. fanbase, stadium, trophies, history, etc..

[24.3 update changed every contract below the third tier (first national amateur division) to amateur instead of the right part/full time contracts]

As the division is named, these are amateur teams.

Contracts at individual basis are not at hand. If you can present me official data par player, I will modify where necessary.

 

[Why are Union SG nerfed on the game?]

Players have already been updated for the winter update

Reputation doesn't get updated on behalf of a season, take note that potential reputation of USG is higher than the one of Cercle.

I've modified the city data upon your findings for 2025 edition.

 

And might I suggest a friendlier approach for requesting / helping out for data?

Always welcome to help and improveme the database.

 

[Belgium finances]

finances are added upon Bank of Belgium data.

If not solved with my changes, it is not a data problem, but game related.

[Belgium finances]

1 hour ago, Bartrcm said:

OK, but after thinking about this, this is still not correct. To get a licence for the 1th amateur in real life you need at least 5 persons on professional/semi-professional contract. This means the solution that you mentioned is not according real ife, and won't solve the issues in the 2 highest divisions. I still can't understand that this can't be solved in a correct way. Until 3 or 4 years ago there weren't these big issues with the finances (this is not only going in the Belgian leagues). Going back to that period regarding handling the finances shouldn't be that difficult. The only thing that is changing year after year is that the finances are getting worse every new FM.

the changes are concerning teams starting from 4th tier.

 

[Belgium finances]

will be in the winter update

[Belgium finances]

teams have been set as amateur (which they are), wages players set to 0 (as amateur).

I hope this solves it, if not, it wil be a non data-issue.

[Possible wrong birthdates (based on release DB)]

Great Job!

I've modified where needed, 

Will be in the winter update

[KRC Genk players & personnel]

I'll modify the staff mentioned.

Karetsas, Manguelle and all those who turned 16 after 01/09/2023 won't be included into the game due to legal reasons.

Contracts are included

[Union SG U23 team not in competition]

On 14/01/2024 at 15:56, Spuddixx said:

I see. I'm still in doubt whether it is working as intended, as you are not able to have over 23 players train and play with U23, meaning you can not build fitness with players that do not play. For example: I made Francois and Teklab available for the U23 for 90 minutes, but they are unable to play. I see that some other teams have an U21 playing in the 'Belgische Reservecompetitie', on the contrary.

there are other limits to u21 competition, as these are not in line with not u23 teams (eg Lierse , Dender & Beveren). Rule of only 1 over 23 player applies only for u23 teams.

You can only register 1, or have a from injury recovering player to play (but they are limited to amount of games, and no selection 1st squad). It is NOT intended to have several  +23 training at the u23 team.

[Belgium Challenger Pro League Playoffs treated as minor game for scouting purposes.]

nope

[Union SG U23 team not in competition]

I've checked this ingame. If you check on the teams field, indeed nothing shows.

 

If you select one of the players and look at their statistics, matches played for the u23 are shown.

 

 

Please check if this is the case with your game.

 

 

 

 

 

[Belgium Challenger Pro League Playoffs treated as minor game for scouting purposes.]

 

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[Royal Francs Borains Nickname]

Thanks for spotting, I will request this one.

[Belgium pro league Substitution]

Has already been put on the to do list. Should be in with the winter update.

Thanks for mentioning, all help is welcome.

[Belgium Play Off problem]

2.2.1.5 Test match between the club from the Champions playoff that is
eligible for the last ticket to a European
competition and the club that is winner of the Europe play-off

Article P7.93
Test match between the club from the Champions play-off eligible for the
last ticket for a European competition and the club that is winner of the Europe play-off.
Both these clubs, taken in account  they have a European license, will play for the purpose of winning
the last ticket for European competitions, a test match on the field of the club that
finished highest in the regular championship.

This test match will not be played if the winner of the Cup of Belgium is also the winner of the Europe playoff
. In that case, the last European ticket goes to the club finishing fourth after the Champions play-off. If the winner of the championship after the Champions play-off
does not finish in the top three and to the extent that the winner of the Belgian Cup does not win the Europe playoff, the test match for the last European ticket will be organized
between the club finishing third after the Champions playoff and the winner of the Europa playoff.

This test match will be played between the fifth in the standings after the Champions play-off and the winner of the Europa play-off if the winner of the Belgian Cup finishes in the top 4 ends of the Champions playoff. if one of the two clubs to contest the test match has not obtained their European license, the test match will not be organized and the last European ticket will be allocated to the other club that had to contest the test match.

If neither club has obtained the European license, the test match will not be organized
organized and the last European ticket will be allocated to the highest ranked
from the standings after the playoffs who has obtained the European license.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

 

Rules book of the BFA. Depends on who what where is involved.

Also tricky having older version playing in a new version. Rules have been changed, so there can be a mix up between both.

 

 

[Ross Sykes - Belgium citizenship]

Seems to be a bug. Rule ingame (as the spokesman states) is 5 years.

@Zachary Whyte

can you move this one to the correct thread?

 

[Belgium national team home friendlies played in tiny, tiny stadia.]

First issue was a stadium assigned to Belgium where it shouldn't have been. This was removed from the DB.

@Zachary Whyte Is it a bug concerning a newly created stadium?

[db as manager in as player]

Was already spotted and corrected, will be in an upcoming data update.