[Football Manager 2020 Feedback Thread]

58 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

It's not broken though, is it? Do some issues need sorting? Yes. Is the game unplayable? No. 

Nearly 46,000 people playing it (during the day on a Monday) - You wouldn't get that many people continually using a broken product. It's that simple. Now, I'm not naive enough to think all 46,000 are thoroughly enjoying it (although why would you play something you don't like), but it's a good number nonetheless. I await the inevitable glut of killjoys giving reasons why this figure means nothing quoting all manner of non-sequitors, as per. 

You're entitled to that opinion. You're wrong, of course, but you're still entitled to it. But if you feel that way, you really should be doing something else with your spare time. 

How many of those 45k use downloaded tactics every year, their main objective being just winning?

More than half of them don't even follow FM on twitter or this forum. This is what happens when you use your customers to test the game for yourself to save some cash.

[Football Manager 2020 Feedback Thread]

The last 10 videos posted here look like it's the same goal, different kits and mirrored image sometimes.

[Tonali as Regista]

It doesn't mean anything. Just keep playing him. It's not affecting your tactic at all. It's just the game's way to tell you your player is not 100% natural in that role which, again, doesn't matter. 

[Tonali as Regista]

What do you mean by 'full competence'? If it's the color of the circle next to his role, it has no effects on how he plays, it's just a visual representation of the attributes needed for that role according to the game, but we all know some of them are set wrong. Only you know what you want from your player, so judge his attributes from your point of view and not what the game says a regista needs.

[Missing Clear Cut Chances/One on Ones]

4 minutes ago, Caning the Days said:

My tuppence worth, after managing a dominant but Bala side last in 2019 (dominant but still abject), is that sometimes you need to back off to score in these types of games. If I didn't get a first half goal against a defensive team I would switch to a much deeper formation with counter and attacking duties. This would open the game up a bit and bring the opposition on to you more, enabling your better players to find space. Didn't always work though and would switch to Very Attacking for the last 10-15 if not. No idea if this would work at the higher echelons of the game as well

The theory is good, the ME can't replicate any style this year, only hoof ball and route one. It's like kindergarden football. Also, the defensive line it's always high, even if you set it on lower/much lower.

[HOYD Signing players for youth teams but also offering them contracts]

Then you should report it as a bug.

[Missing Clear Cut Chances/One on Ones]

Then it may be another UI bug. There are a huge amount this year.

[HOYD Signing players for youth teams but also offering them contracts]

 

OP could try and delegate to himself the 'Decides which player's contracts to extend' responsibility or smth like that.

[Missing Clear Cut Chances/One on Ones]

4 minutes ago, szp said:

It's my first season  

And how many friendlies did you play? How many goals did you score in those?

[HOYD Signing players for youth teams but also offering them contracts]

4 minutes ago, KlaaZ said:

It's not a bug though, Sounds like he wants to handle contract negotiations for youngsters already at the club himself.

@bradconway go to Staff - responsibilities - Transfer and contract responsibilities - Contracts tab and take control of the 'play contracts for U19S' or whatever it is for your team.

Look at the pictures... The second one is with the HOYD responsibilities. He's only allowed to initiate player signings, which mean he will offer x amount of money for a player, but won't negotiate his contract. OP is in charge of contract negotiations for all squads (senior, u19, II team and III team).

[HOYD Signing players for youth teams but also offering them contracts]

Better report it in the bugs forum so it will get fixed for FM2023 hopefully.

 

Delegate the contract negotiations to yourself.

[Football Manager 2020 Feedback Thread]

Horror ME! No arguments needed.

I should say version. Every time I find the mental strength to try and play this game, I find some bugs. Bugs that have been reported since beta(a few since FM2017) and here we are with version 20.2.1.

[DM role for a deep pivot that stays close to the DC strata]

Give him an instruction to mark DM zone?

[Talking about player's effectiveness playing in specific roles]

Never had problems. I often have players that can play in different positions, for example a RB that can also play DM or even MC. It's just a visual representation of the best role for a player in relation to his attributes.

["The game is too easy"]

6 minutes ago, Valleyg said:

You are quite right of course the attributes are very important, but I think the colour coded circles can be a useful approximation and use this information alongside the attributes for each player. I think my key point was really that I see loads of players with tactics set up poorly balanced, false nines here, mezzalas there, and players who can't play the position. If you want to play a certain tactic I think you should wait until you can either play the role well already, or have time to train your own players for the role. I would disagree that the green/red circles do nothing, I think they give you a good rough guide before delving deeper. I think most important is that you should have at least 1 decent tactic sorted well before you ever play a league game, using a few full matches to watch how it works.

You can train a player for 10 years on a role and he may never get a green circle. The only thing that matter is his his attributes. And of course you can't play a target man or a poacher as a F9. But you can play an attacking midfielder that has great playmaking attributes as a F9 and be really successful while the circle is yellow/orange. Please stop spreading false information.

["The game is too easy"]

31 minutes ago, Dreambuilder said:

Yes they do? The players decisions is better the greener the circle and role fits.

Nope. It's just a visual representation to give new players an idea about which roles suit a player. Doesn't matter if it's full green or half orange. The only thing that matter are his attributes.

["The game is too easy"]

6 hours ago, Valleyg said:

2  play all your best players in their best position. Sounds obvious, but my strongest starting 11 are all in their favoured roles. If my best cm is a deep lying playmaker, then my tactic for the season will have a dlp. Same for every position. Sounds easy, but how many of your players are in a role that's not 100 per cent suitable? I build my tactic entirely around the players I have, I don't try and shoehorn players into my tactic. You see it in real life too, it's so frustrating.

 

Green Circles don’t matter! They have no effect on the game and contain no useful information. Instead analyze attributes and choose based on them.

[Football Manager 2020 Feedback Thread]

12 hours ago, Johnny Ace said:

I think the main problem with these one-on-ones isn't the fact that so many are missed it's that so many are created, no game has 8+ clear shots at goal, it's the fact these chances shouldn't be created in the first place 

Exactly like in FM19. Too many crosses, let's block them. Too many 1vs1s? Let's make the strikers miss them.

[Knap - FM24 and FM23 FM22_FM 21 - FM 20 -FM 19 Tactic List]

1 hour ago, ricardojpm said:

I'm using the 4231 from Knap (not the full season) with Porto and I'm having sucess with it.

Second season, about to play the UCL final against Atl. Madrid, and won against Man. City (won 2-0 at home and lost 3-1 away, but past anyway :p) with this tactic in the quarters :).

which one?

[Creating Tactics - The Book of Roles]

why is this not Sticky?

[Knap - FM24 and FM23 FM22_FM 21 - FM 20 -FM 19 Tactic List]

Any working 4231 with scoring striker and forwards? 20.2.0?

[Can B-teams get promoted from non-playable leagues to playable leagues in FM2020?]

10 minutes ago, VMX said:

I have an editor that will unlock the Spanish Tercera, however the B-team I'm interested in is actually in the division right below that one (regional division).

Do you know if by unlocking Tercera, teams in the regional division will now be able to promote to it, since they're right below it?

Open that editor file and go to the regional divisions and make sure your B club is there. If it's not there, swap it with another club from the regional division, give it a performance boost and edit it to your liking. Then try and reload the game until your team promotes at the end of the first season.

[Can B-teams get promoted from non-playable leagues to playable leagues in FM2020?]

24 minutes ago, VMX said:

 

Also, often times the B-team is not in the first non-playable league, but maybe in the one below that. So they would first need to get promoted to the first non-playable league, which I've never seen happen, before they could get promoted to the playable league. Maybe that's where the issue actually is?

Then they will never promote. I had a long save with a Spanish club on FM19, my B team never promoted. I gave them reputation 10000 with the editoe, put by best u23 players in the B team but nothing worked. 

But. This year on FM20 I used the editor to add my B team to the last playable league. Or you can download a custom database and edit it by swapping your B team to another team.

[If you think the current fm20 match engine is great, post your tactics]

2 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

Is there such a thing? Is there a team in world football who has an actual 'counter attacking tactic'?  I mean, there are teams who are good at counter attacking (Leicester in their PL winning season for example), and play to those strengths. But any tactic at its heart is designed to score more goals than the opposition. Even a tactic that concentrates on defence more than attack is still trying to find a way to win. 

This is one of the reasons I'm glad SI changed that mentality from 'counter' to 'cautious', it was the most badly named mentality they ever had. All teams counter attack to some degree. 

You know what I meant. When I talk about counter attacking, I don't talk about low mentalities.

[If you think the current fm20 match engine is great, post your tactics]

I'm waiting until someone posts a successful counter attacking tactic.