[Football Manager 2021 Official Feedback Thread]

9 minutes ago, Neil Brock said:

Have you completed a season since the update? Believe it'll only include them from the point of fix. 

So not a complete fix then....that's disappointing. Might want to reword that fix then.

[Football Manager 2021 Official Feedback Thread]

 Most assists by a player within club records now appearing correctly

Do you have to start a new save for this to work? Not working still

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12 hours ago, zindrinho said:

I still cant see where it says they are jaded, just needing or getting a rest.

So you want me to go back though my messages  and saves so i can give you proof of the message that said they were jaded, because you don't believe me?

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2 hours ago, zindrinho said:

I've read the entire thread 2 times now, still can't see the word jaded being mentioned in the pics, but as I said I'm not familiar with the skin you're using so it may just be me.

These 2 at the time were in need of/or having a rest because they were jaded.

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33 minutes ago, zindrinho said:

it's a different skin than what I'm used to seeing, but I cant see any players being jaded here? Just that they are recommended a rest by the physio..

Top of  the thread.

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1 hour ago, Mars_Blackmon said:

Is anyone going to provide their tactics and the attributes of the players in question? There is little information here…

Did you not see all those photos at the top of the page???

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Thanks for the help. I think this is a issue with the game.

I've tried:

Resting the players.

Sending them on holiday.

Changing the Pre season training.

Changing Tactics.

Having the best Physio's and Medical staff.

Rotation. And if you are telling me you have to rest them/play them each game, well that just isn't how it works irl. How many teams do that!!!!

10 hours ago, Nacaw said:

Jadedness/freshness is a threshold. If you are constantly waiting for your players to barely get out of being jaded, then keep playing them the same way as before, then the same problem will always return. 

Always send them on holiday instead of resting.

It looks like your players are playing 4-5 matches in a row in between rests. When people are talking about rotation, it's normally understood as "play one, rest one".  4-5 games in a row is not enough rotation for most players, certainly not fullbacks with average natural fitness that also play international games. 

Worst case scenario, you can edit jadedness and just reset the cycle. They should be good for a year or two that way. Jadedness is likely to show up again unless you change your habits though. 

 

 

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Tiki-Taka

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Just now, XaW said:

Then I think you should upload a save for SI in a bug report. I've never had this, so it could be something you are doing that we are unaware of, or that your specific setup triggers something. Creating a bug report will at the very least give you an answer from SI.

I will try, but its unlikely to be fixed anytime soon, going by their record for bug fixing this season. Cheers.

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2 minutes ago, XaW said:

Can you change the "Billericay Town" in the top right to "All teams"? Perhaps he has played too much for a youth team or an international side?

Its the same

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8 minutes ago, XaW said:

Could you go into the profile of one of the players and go to Reports -> Form, make sure to have "All teams" and "All competitions" selected and show the whole screen. That will let us see how many games they've played recently and perhaps it will show something.

This player was jaded after 9 league games. I did not start him in the first few!

Then i rotated him after just 5 games in a row, which had a international break in it.

Then again, rested after just 4 games in a row.

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3 minutes ago, sporadicsmiles said:

Those are the reasons you get jaded players. Whether you like it or not. If you are not adapting to what you see, that is on you.

If you think it is a bug, post it as such in the bug forum and upload the save so SI can take a look. 

Great help, thanks

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2 minutes ago, sporadicsmiles said:

Rotate your squad, rest the players who are jaded. They are young players, and you should not be running young players into the ground anyway. 

If you are having players getting jaded at this stage of a season then there are only two things it can be due to. Either they have played a fair bit of football in the summer and not had a good break (maybe coupled with an early start in Europe or a long preseason), or you have been playing them for every minute of every game (an exaggeration, but the vast majority of minutes they will have played) including preseason.

I mean the solution for this is pretty easy. If a player is jaded, rest them. If you want to avoid players getting jaded, rotate them. If you are seeing jaded players often, you are not doing one or both of these things well.

 

Sorry but that solution is wrong. 

I've tried resting them.

I've tried rotating the squad.

I have 3 squads effectively and yet i still get the jaded issue. Its laughable.

   

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3 minutes ago, obasa_G said:

Sports scientists can help you to reduce jadedness in players.

You Know what's coming.....

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Both have very high Natural fitness and Croatia had 1 friendly in the Summer.

And i have tried to holiday them and just a few games later, they are jaded again. And its not just them. i'll get to a point in the season when 5 or more players are "Jaded".

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Absolutely had enough of this now.

Had players jaded throughout this save. And i just can't solve it.

Tried Less pre season training, more preseason training. 

Lower intense training, double intense......

Resting players, not resting them. Resting them for games.....nothing works.

How the hell can you be jaded after 9 games of the season!!!!!!! No summer tournaments either.... JOKE!!!!

[Solving the problem of Player being Jaded]

This is getting frustrating now. Week in, week out, a player is reported Jaded.

Training is set by the assistant. And its not hard.

Training rest is set as follows

Is my pre season training wrong? 

Its bloody annoying. I've never seen this so bad before. 

 

[Solving the problem of Player being Jaded]

Its not that either. The players that are currently "Jaded" Have a average of  14 for both Stamina and Natural fitness. Training isn't hard or too soft and they aren't playing that many games.

[Solving the problem of Player being Jaded]

2 hours ago, XaW said:

Jadedness is simply a way of telling you the player is playing too much. So perhaps you need to rotate the players more, but giving them a 2 week rest (without playing them either!) or a two week vacation should solve it, but if you keep overplaying them when they come back, they will most likely become jaded again after a while.

They are playing a game a week. Its not that hard a schedule. 

[Solving the problem of Player being Jaded]

Constantly having players jaded throughout the season. Tried giving players a rest, but they still come back a few weeks later being jaded again.

How can i sort this out?   

[Football Manager 2021 Official Feedback Thread]

Assists Still not showing in the club history section....3 months after release.

It's such a basic bug, and yet it's still there. 

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Yes. Check your game.

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When did this game get released and yet......

Still not fixed

[What does "Promising" mean?]

When searching for young players, i see promising midfielder or winger, but what makes a player "Promising"?

 

[Football Manager 2021 Official Feedback Thread]

Still waiting on the patch. For a game that came out months ago, with a number of bugs and errors, thats pretty bad tbh.