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Some bits like the Matchday UI are taking a bit of getting use to, but it makes it feel like a new game and not a transfer update.
Really like it all, especially the ME 😀
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A lot of the Pompey players are wrong. Marquis can't hit a barn door in the last 2 FMs but is one of the top scorers at this level. Curtis is another, but is one of the best players in the division.
Some of Morris stats are to high.
Haji Mnoga, Alfie Stanley and Harvey Rew are poor, Mnoga is being scouted by Championship and a couple of Premier teams.
In FM20 Michael Eisner also sells up because he gets old, but has stated his son Eric will one day take over the club and the club will remain in the family. Is this altered in FM21?
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In my last game on FM19, I took Torquay from the Conference South to the Prem League in consecutive seasons, no ME exploits used. Have a feeling with the temperamental ME in FM20, this will prove a lot harder.
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5 minutes ago, warlock said:
Go for it - rules have been bent before (not that we have any rules
). I had an enjoyable save with Gateshead a couple of versions ago, but it looks like a much tougher challenge now.
Cheers
It is going to be hard, the expectation is to avoid a relegation battle. Team is very under strength with little movement in wages for quality.
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Im just starting a long term save with Gateshead, take them from the Conference North through the leagues. Is it ok to post updates in here, or would rather not as its a Conference team at the start?
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Cheers guys for the work, look forward to trying it out later
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1 minute ago, sidslayer said:
Yes. Exactly that. Combinations are important and well done for spotting that this is actually a puzzle game! It’s not breaking the ME. It’s understanding how to work with it.
No where is the game listed as a puzzle game, strategy, sports and simulation yes, so your patronising response isn't correct, is it. The game was always about the players you sign, how you develop them and then picking formations and tactics to win. Having to pick set combinations, is the same as a Diablo, and is shunting people people down the route of having to set their teams up in very similar ways just to satisfy a ME. That is broken to me, and not the way FM once was.
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10 minutes ago, sidslayer said:This is showing that your tactic is off. Yes it looks wonky, bad even, and is very frustrating. But it’s the games way of telling you that your tactic is off. It’s not pretty. But that is what’s happening.
Then this is just plain ridiculous. So what you are saying for example is changing an IF to sup from attack, now means your AF doesn't miss a barn down from 2 yards continuously, and you wont concede a 35 yard free kick. In fact this isn't a football management game, but a puzzle game all about finding the combinations that go together. Doesn't that then mean all your you are doing is breaking the match engine with these combinations, in the same way a Diablo tactic, or a throw in set up did in FM19?
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12 hours ago, Welshace said:
Which is why @CFuller is suggesting OP shouldn't blame the game.... if the AI is scoring fine, then the user should be able to aswell.. it's that simple...
But the problem so many are having, is world class forwards playing for you miss sitters regularly, and then the opposition hits you with a 35yard wonder freekick. That happens far to often. A couple of times a season yes, but regular in defeats, no. Whether that is an issue between how the match engine represents the result, it is the reason people are struggling. They are being shown that they are building tactics that the match engine is showing are successful for creating clear cut chances, and is defensively sound bar for the wonder free kicks.
Telling people to slightly change a player role is silly, but only not silly if the ME is broken and using this to show flaws in your setup. Which then begs the question, why have an ME in the first place, we should just go back to the old commentary only.
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17 hours ago, Bilbaoboy said:
Is he under rated?
From what i have seen and read he is supposedly lighting fast with a high workrate and mentally really tough and brave but he is quite average in the game
Any Pompey fans or people who watch league 1 regularly agree or is it accurate?
I've been a bit disappointed with the Pompey stats this season, but it does get his inconsistency right.
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25 minutes ago, BigV said:
Easy to say, hard to be done, but if it was possible holy cow this game would rise massively (in ME terms that is)
Done some digging for quite a while and not found anything beyond 2017/18 season, even if you found a solid database, you'd most likely pay the creator who'd probably charge a bit considering how far it's been since release. If you find one thats recent for free or low price then could you let me know? thanks.
Found one on Sortitoutsi on the forums, for FM17
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3 minutes ago, craigcwwe said:
ME is king for me. It's why I've gone back to FM17 this week and started a new save there. Sure, the DB is out of date by a few years but I can live with that seeing as I'm playing lower league anyway. The ME is night and day to what we have in 20 (And 19 tbf). It's actually fun and enjoyable to watch and play which I can't say the same for FM20 with the current state of that ME which makes playing and watching games a complete chore and drag as it's so one dimensional, lack of variety and as someone mentioned above, feels like you're fighting against the ME to get what you want from it, in terms of results and play style.
Thinking of going back myself and looking for an updated database for it. Sad thing was I really enjoyed the demo of FM20, wasn't as good as some, but I had fun, all went downhill when the first ME update came.
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Just an idea. Stick the FM17 match engine into the current game, and Si have built a classic on and off the pitch
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19 minutes ago, bleventozturk said:
This is just based on my observation from watching youtube videos using the new beta ME since the beta wasn't released for FM Touch, but it seems like there is actually plenty of central play and goals produced from open play, when you play with more attacking mentality. So, maybe the ME is perfectly capable of producing more realistic play and scorelines, but the AI in general is too conservative? Hypothetically, if you take Barcelona for example, and if you can have Messi scoring 30+ goals, to me that would mean that maybe it is the AI's mentality levels that need to be tweaked, and not the ME itself? Just a thought.
The match starts around 12:40 in the video below. This guys has his team producing lots of chances and his strikers scoring a lot, using an attacking mentality.
Now this is really interesting. im noticing (im playing as Portsmouth in League 1 at the mo), that all the teams are setting up very defensive against me. Its like the AI is set to be defensive and conservative. I'm wondering how much the morale and mentality is effecting the results we are seeing. Everyone is saying its the ME, but what if its things in the game that are causing the ME to behave that way? What does drive me mad is we batter a team with 70% possession, 10ccc to their none, and then I get hit with a 35yard wonder freekick. Losing 1-0
This happens a lot but what I notice is i never get a result when this happens, no matter what i do, but when in games where I have gone down to 10 men and are losing by a single goal, i regularly find an equalizer or more. Is this because the AI because less defensive when up against a team with 10 men?
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15 hours ago, FrazT said:
The goals scored per game is checked and compared with real life stats collected from the major leagues throughout the world. It would perhaps be fairer to judge these statistics over a full season before drawing any major conclusions.
Prem League
Game: 31matches top scorer Mane 12 goals
Real Life 23matches, top scorer Vardy 17 goals
Championship
Game 38matches top scorer Pereira 10 goals
Real Life: 28matches Watkins / Mitrovic 18 goals
League 1
Game 39matches top scorer Marquis (plays for me) 12 goals
Real Life 26 matches, Toney 15 goals
League 2
Game 40 matches Nicky Maynard 13 goals
Real Life 28 games, Doyle 23 goals
No disrespect, but the players in the game are going to really have to go some to get close those those in real life, who have played just over half the season. This is full detail, on the beta match engine.
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2 minutes ago, andu1 said:
Are you using full detail for those leagues? I always see these types of tests but nobody mentions if they use full detail or not in those leagues.
full detail on my results, good point.
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12 minutes ago, Tiger666 said:
After one full season I have
Premier league: Martial 26 goals
Championship: Woodrow 21 goals
League 1: Ennis 18 goals
League 2: Miller 17 goals
So yes a bit low.
On yours the EPL total is realistic, but the other leagues certainly aren't
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Another thing i've just noticed. One of my players Curtis just take a shot from 30 yards and it went wide, and his match rating dropped from 6.8 to 6.1 straight away. By half time it was 6.0. Seems one error wrecks the player for the whole game. This is happening a lot with forwards, miss a chance and their morale is shot for the rest of the game and the next few.
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Its dumming down of the attackers in the game that is a problem. In my game this is what I currently see against what is real life. This is the same across every league, and im using the 20.4 engine.
Prem League
Game: 31matches top scorer Mane 12 goals
Real Life 23matches, top scorer Vardy 17 goals
Championship
Game 38matches top scorer Pereira 10 goals
Real Life: 28matches Watkins / Mitrovic 18 goals
League 1
Game 39matches top scorer Marquis (plays for me) 12 goals
Real Life 26 matches, Toney 15 goals
League 2
Game 40 matches Nicky Maynard 13 goals
Real Life 28 games, Doyle 23 goals
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I don't play the offside trap, and have two CB's, one as a BPD on Def, and the other as a CB on Cover. Center back on cover needs a bit of pace, nothing spectacular. I am not getting caught with balls over the top at all. I have IF's cutting in at AMR and AML, and AF upfront, im not missing through balls and scoring many of the balls over the top one on one against the computer. What does happen a lot though is 1 miss numerous sitters throughout the game, CCC chances 6 to 8, only to concede a 40 yard free kick equalizer in injury time from a team who hasn't had a shot on goal. Had too many of those.
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1 minute ago, luka_ said:
Liverpool had 56 games unbeaten run in the league in my save. I don't think I've ever seen AI manager doing that well before.
Its really enjoyable, top teams so much harder to beat, really adds to the realism.
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It's the first time since CM93, that i haven't been waiting for release date to start a new career game. Started one on Beta on day one, and still loving it 3 seasons on, 40plus leagues and over 100k of players. Best part is its harder to win in the Premier League than usual, top teams are so good, scoring more points than they did on previous versions, both Liverpool and Man City in the high 90s last season.
Many thanks for the hard work
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1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said:
Yes, but it's usually only there for people who want the "realism" of the first six months being with the squads clubs are actually using. In the past people have selected it, then signed a full squad on loan.
It's better this way, IMO.
I see. Be better if they had an option for disabling the first window, and another for disabling budgets in the first window.
I don't disagree with that at all. I've gone a week in with Torquay and have no goalkeeper for 5 months due to injuries and no way of signing an emergency one either
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Just now, RandomGuy. said:
Why do you turn it off if you want to make signings?
Actually a good question, lol. Talking of free transfers, not spending cash for players. Lower leagues with injuries and fatigue its needed in the first season at times.
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). I had an enjoyable save with Gateshead a couple of versions ago, but it looks like a much tougher challenge now.
It is going to be hard, the expectation is to avoid a relegation battle. Team is very under strength with little movement in wages for quality.
[England EFL League One] Data Issues
in Database and Research (Early Access Beta)
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Thank you for the responses. Marquis problems have been caused by being played incorrectly by Kenny Jackett. As soon as he moves to two up front and he scores for fun again. Its the same in FM, you play a player in the wrong way he doesnt perform, its due to the tactics.
Every Pompey fan knows Morris playing in the play offs over Naylor, was Jackett at his worst, "Naylor isnt a summer player"! God help us. Since the early games and move to 442, Morris has been dropped, his performances terrible.
As for Mnoga and the youngsters, well I've had an involvement with Pompeys youth for many years, and helped your predecessor Mr Pompey with some details of the young players many years ago. My point is some players have pace and acceleration of 8 on the game, less than the likes of Lee Brown, but would leave Lee Brown standing over 50metres easily. They seem to be random, when things like speed are visible.
Yes scouts are everywhere, but Mnoga and Bass have had scouts watching, Bass that interested dropped at the start of the season, but alot of potential is seen in Mnoga, hence why he wasn't loaned out.
As for the Eisner's, well I'm no fan of them, so happy to see them move on, on Football Manager. But I do believe they are around for the long term.
Game is fantastic, so fast as well, points not a moan, but a try to help on club I support. Have a nice weekend.
Oh and Dean, you were a go to scout for me in FM's many moons ago, no matter what division I started in.