Popular Post ceefax the cat Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 Things that don't really exist in RL: - Fullbacks who have no idea how to play as a wingback. Wingbacks who have no idea how to play as wingers. Even more ridiculously, players best described as 'wingbacks' in terms of their role but who are considered incompetent if played in the actual wingback position and not DL/R. - Natural attacking central midfielders who have no idea how to play as attacking midfielders - Natural AMR's who have no idea how to play at MR. Natural wingers at MR who don't where to begin as wingers at AMR. Literally the same job with less defending. - Defensively talented MC's who have no idea how to operate at DM. Classy DMs who have zero awareness how to play in the midfield line. Halfbacks who can't play at the back. - Inside forwards who are clueless up front. Strikers who have zero clue what to do as inside forwards. - Creative deep-lying forwards who become totally incompetent when asked to be shadow strikers or play in the hole. Etc. etc. etc... Not just a bit awkward in most cases, but actually incompetent. Clueless. You move your MC to DM and he has the same level of familiarity as if you'd put a striker there, unless he goes on an 8-month training course and plays there every week. 442, that'll suit this lot. Oh wait no, because the wingers and my best creative midfielder have no concept of what it might be like to do the same job but defend 10 metres further back. Etc... Once you've got a squad to play a certain formation, changing it in any way renders half of your players incompetent. RL football is also full of examples of players being asked to play in a new position and just taking to it - even blossoming - because their attributes made them suited to it and they had no idea themselves. It doesn't necessarily take more than a few training sessions for a player to more or less understand his new job, and certainly isn't some mystical journey that takes months / years. Here is what I want you to do because you seem to have all the skills for it ---> training, a few games ----> Roger. There might be small aspects of the job, tricks of the trade, that sink in over time (say, the journey from accomplished to natural) but the journey from a bit clueless to pretty damn good needn't take longer than a few weeks if the attributes are there. The positional familiarity graphics in FM should look a lot less like a dot on a pitch and a lot more like a heat map, which should be able to change quite rapidly if a remotely intelligent, able player is asked to perform and train at new tasks. Philippe Lahm being asked to tuck in and play as an inverted fullback for example. This was a player confronted with an entirely new, made-up role, let alone asked to perform in a different position, but because he was intelligent and had the skillset, he carried it out brilliantly, straight away. To suggest that a DLF asked to take up a slightly different position and defend a bit more requires a year of education not to be 'awkward' at it is just bizarre. Positional familiarity should also be linked largely to tactical familiarity. If the whole team have trained a certain system to death and know their jobs within it, it's inconceivable that their star AML would still be basically unaware of how to play ML within it. You've literally been training to do that specific job in that formation every day. It doesn't take that long, it's not that big a deal. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jaguars Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I would love to see some sort of change like this. I've always thought player positions in the game are far too clunky and unrealistic. Players aren't nearly versatile enough, and the position training is pretty awful, you teach them 1 new position but then they forget it again when asked to train in a 3rd. If you want to convert your winger in to a fullback fine, but then he still cant player wing back at all, and forget ever playing him on the opposite side of the pitch. Its especially a problem for newgens, the vast majority who spawn with very basic positions and very few as awkward/competent etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Kyle Brown Posted November 6, 2020 Administrators Share Posted November 6, 2020 Reviewed so locked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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