RWDM stats completely off

Also, having double checked, the Proximus League allows 5 subs, in FM23 we are still limited to 3

 

Edited October 23, 2022 by Firetruck13

I have also noticed that the 3rd division play 1 game every 3-4 days, this is not at all realistic, none of the clubs in the league play so often, they simply wouldn't even have the squad depth for such intensity every week, the Belgian leagues needs a serious revision upon release

Edited October 24, 2022 by Firetruck13

Hi @Firetruck13

Please could you add any issues regarding league rules to https://community.sigames.com/bugtracker/football-manager-2023-early-access-beta-bugs-tracker/league-specific-issues/belgium-official-league-specific-issues/ 

Thanks

7 minutes ago, David Helme said:

Hi @Firetruck13

Please could you add any issues regarding league rules to https://community.sigames.com/bugtracker/football-manager-2023-early-access-beta-bugs-tracker/league-specific-issues/belgium-official-league-specific-issues/ 

Thanks

Do I put the issue about games every 3 days in there as well or just the subs rule?

1 minute ago, Firetruck13 said:

Do I put the issue about games every 3 days in there as well or just the subs rule?

Yes you can add that in too.

Thanks

Il y a 17 heures, Firetruck13 a dit :

Also, having double checked, the Proximus League allows 5 subs, in FM23 we are still limited to 3

Nope we can substitute 5 players but in 3 differents window (as in real life)

I'll have a look at the player data.

Concerning the public numbers, I'll have a look at them as wel.

They won't be in the game release, as the data has been locked.

They will be in an upcoming update (winter).

On 24/10/2022 at 22:20, Moondog777 said:

I'll have a look at the player data.

Concerning the public numbers, I'll have a look at them as wel.

They won't be in the game release, as the data has been locked.

They will be in an upcoming update (winter).

Thank you, just out of curiosity, is there a site you use for average crowds in european football? I used to have a website that had all the leagues but its not been updated since covid first hit so guessing they stopped, cheers EFS Attendances (european-football-statistics.co.uk)

Edited October 27, 2022 by Firetruck13

nothing that is really accurate

Having waited for the update, I must say its been absolutely honking, disappointing yet again, no updates, Oulare out for 13 months despite being back from injury? Botella and El Ouahdi still "fringe" players in the squad despite being starting XI's scoring and assisting a combined 7 goals and 9 goals respectively so far, Biron still not a good striker in the league despite being top scorer, somehow Camilo is one of the best midfielders despite only playing 1 game, still expected to finish 7th in the league despite being in the playoffs last season and being top of the league this season.

Jake O'Brien not the best defender in the team despite being the best in the league...

Again, whoever does the homework for the Belgian data has been absolutely lazy, and that's not even having a look at the updates on the other teams in the league

Edited March 16, 2023 by Firetruck13

Another further point, Lennart Mertens who is now back at Deinze, somehow has something like 32 goals in around 45 games for Club NXT? He only scored like 2 goals for them, and this isn't a stat from when a game is running in the future, these are default stats from the start of a new save

Edited March 17, 2023 by Firetruck13

9 hours ago, Firetruck13 said:

Another further point, Lennart Mertens who is now back at Deinze, somehow has something like 32 goals in around 45 games for Club NXT? He only scored like 2 goals for them, and this isn't a stat from when a game is running in the future, these are default stats from the start of a new save

Unfortunately, I have to admit that the Belgian League is not what it must be! Some players at clubs are banned/on holiday (?) for 6 months without reason.
The league system with (final) play-offs also isn't correct.

Sad to see how we put an effort to claim the mistakes here in the forum and propose corrections, but they don't do anything about it (still under review for weeks/months).
 

15 hours ago, wcdflcnrsrule said:

Unfortunately, I have to admit that the Belgian League is not what it must be! Some players at clubs are banned/on holiday (?) for 6 months without reason.
The league system with (final) play-offs also isn't correct.

Sad to see how we put an effort to claim the mistakes here in the forum and propose corrections, but they don't do anything about it (still under review for weeks/months).
 

its ridiculous, I have players at RWDM who are starting XI in real life who are in the reserves by default, Bryan Smeets is in the main squad despite having disappeared in the U21's since September for disciplinary reasons, Oulare is back from injury irl but injured for 14 months in the game? That's even longer than before the update which was 5 months or there abouts, I'm looking at other teams in the league as well and I'm actually in shock at how poor the player stats are or how inflated they are depending on the players, obviously I only really focus on the Belgian 2nd division as this is the league I watch every single weekend so I can clearly see who's good, who's not etc, wouldn't be able to say much for division 3 for example but I can guess that it will be in an even worse state.

I've also now got a bug where all 4 of my goalkeepers have been injured the same day for 3 weeks to 3 months, honestly this is the type of stuff that's just not going to push me into buying newer fm's if this is how its gonna keep being for years, every year they get the things wrong for the Belgian leagues, doesn't help the Union Belge change the rules every year, division 2 for example from next season will be in its 6th reform since they relegated 9 teams back in 2016 to create the new useless division.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Firetruck13

I'll have a look at the mentioned issues. If possible or making it more clear, you can send them by an excel file to me by PM.

I'm not checking RWDM  on fix base, but what is passed on will be checked.

It is impossible however, to update a rolling  competion completely during the winter update.

New changes will only be available for 2024, but if you have mods in that light, you can also pm me.

 

And please do not regard researchers as 'lazy'. I  spend way to much free time on a free basis helping out in this.

 

On 17/03/2023 at 01:20, Firetruck13 said:

Another further point, Lennart Mertens who is now back at Deinze, somehow has something like 32 goals in around 45 games for Club NXT? He only scored like 2 goals for them, and this isn't a stat from when a game is running in the future, these are default stats from the start of a new save

in the db is set 16 apps & 4 goals. 

after a secong look, I saw that the season 2019 was wrongfully added the NXT, where it should be Deinze. I'll correct this one

Edited March 22, 2023 by Moondog777

On 18/03/2023 at 02:50, Firetruck13 said:

its ridiculous, I have players at RWDM who are starting XI in real life who are in the reserves by default, Bryan Smeets is in the main squad despite having disappeared in the U21's since September for disciplinary reasons, Oulare is back from injury irl but injured for 14 months in the game? That's even longer than before the update which was 5 months or there abouts, I'm looking at other teams in the league as well and I'm actually in shock at how poor the player stats are or how inflated they are depending on the players, obviously I only really focus on the Belgian 2nd division as this is the league I watch every single weekend so I can clearly see who's good, who's not etc, wouldn't be able to say much for division 3 for example but I can guess that it will be in an even worse state.

I've also now got a bug where all 4 of my goalkeepers have been injured the same day for 3 weeks to 3 months, honestly this is the type of stuff that's just not going to push me into buying newer fm's if this is how its gonna keep being for years, every year they get the things wrong for the Belgian leagues, doesn't help the Union Belge change the rules every year, division 2 for example from next season will be in its 6th reform since they relegated 9 teams back in 2016 to create the new useless division.

Oulare was set 13/07/2022 - 31/03/2023. I've twiched this to end of january. Taking in account he has now played 1 game, and training build up, this should be more correct.

Smeets : I've added the u21 team status, however, the game tends to overrule this sometimes

Injuries aren't a DB bug, best to report to the game play, but seems coinsidence

I've adjusted the mentioned players as well, but keep in mind that data in fm is not a live invironment, meaning it doesn't change all data weekly.

 

 

On 22/03/2023 at 11:36, Moondog777 said:

I'll have a look at the mentioned issues. If possible or making it more clear, you can send them by an excel file to me by PM.

I'm not checking RWDM  on fix base, but what is passed on will be checked.

It is impossible however, to update a rolling  competion completely during the winter update.

New changes will only be available for 2024, but if you have mods in that light, you can also pm me.

 

And please do not regard researchers as 'lazy'. I  spend way to much free time on a free basis helping out in this.

 

The lazy comment wasn't aime towards you mate my bad, I'm on about the teams at SI who are paid to do the research on their game, other than the big leagues they seem to just not pay any attention to the smaller countries, the fact they need people like you who use their free time to help the game for free should just about tell, the game is selling at new record highs so they do have the money to hire more staff to improve their game, hopefully fm24 gets everything it deserves cheers mate

THanks for the clarification.

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