Height irrelevant?

I remember reading many years ago that height is irrelevant to jumping. Is this still a fact in FM2010?

Yes. However, Height is factored into the jumping attribute. So don't think of jumping as "how high can player A jump?" Think of it as "What is the total height Player A can reach?"

Height is the deciding factor for when a player will treat a ball as aerial or not, and hence jump for it or not.

Put another way - a 6' 4" player won't jump for a ball 6' off the ground (so jumping doesn't come into play), whilst a 5' 8" player will (and he'll need his jumping attribute).

Height is the deciding factor for when a player will treat a ball as aerial or not, and hence jump for it or not.

Put another way - a 6' 4" player won't jump for a ball 6' off the ground (so jumping doesn't come into play), whilst a 5' 8" player will (and he'll need his jumping attribute).

Ahhhhhh

I was thinking that jumping attribute is all that mattered :o

I'm tired and off to bed, or I'd search for the thread where SI say this

It comes up now and again, and if you can be bothered to search hard enough you'll find the thread; one of the Collyers said it.

Glad to help.

I'm tired and off to bed, or I'd search for the thread where SI say this

It comes up now and again, and if you can be bothered to search hard enough you'll find the thread; one of the Collyers said it.

Glad to help.

I'm not doubting you at all

Height is the deciding factor for when a player will treat a ball as aerial or not, and hence jump for it or not.

Put another way - a 6' 4" player won't jump for a ball 6' off the ground (so jumping doesn't come into play), whilst a 5' 8" player will (and he'll need his jumping attribute).

Where has this been said? AFAIK height plays no (direct) part in the ME calculations.

Height has been a valid value since FM09, so yes it does influence actions within the game.

before FM09 height was a factor within Jumping and made little/no difference.

Where has this been said?

As I said, if you search you'll find it.

AFAIK height plays no (direct) part in the ME calculations.

No problem.

Height has been a valid value since FM09, so yes it does influence actions within the game.

before FM09 height was a factor within Jumping and made little/no difference.

Exactly what Paul/Ov Collyer said

Height is the deciding factor for when a player will treat a ball as aerial or not, and hence jump for it or not.

Put another way - a 6' 4" player won't jump for a ball 6' off the ground (so jumping doesn't come into play), whilst a 5' 8" player will (and he'll need his jumping attribute).

But iirc as such it's just cosmetic, i.e. it's used for the graphical representation of the player jumping or not, but it doesn't give players any advantage in getting the ball on a header. Right?

Aston, I dug it out mate - http://community.sigames.com/showpost.php?p=2330584&postcount=24

And a far better explanation from Michael Murray than the one I gave :o -

The height of the ball determines how important height is to winning a header - if the ball is at your players height so he can head the ball without jumping, then his jumping attribute wont apply, in this case if you have two players identical apart from height the taller player who doesn't need to jump would more often than not win the header (assuming that the smaller player doesn't jump higher than the tall players height).

If the ball is higher up in the air so that both players need to jump, then jumping is more important than height - jumping is how high their head reaches, not how far off the ground their feet are. Height here will still have some affect just less of an effect - assuming the players are equal bar height and reach the same height comfortably for the ball, the taller guy has a slight advantage that with a small jump they are more likely to be more stable on landing - so the small guy who can leap may win the header, but if he lands in a heap the tall guy will more than likely retrieve the ball.

This is 'fixed' in the 2010 ME - height is now a direct influence in conjunction with jumping

Thankyou

Really? I was under the impression height was simply a cosmetic value. News to me.

If you look in the editor there is a section that classes a players height in small, medium and large. I presume certain heights are classed at certain height parameters and then leads to an impact in the game.