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  1. The 4-2-4-0 DM Narrow Interesting formation this one, that presents a few challenges for me as I've never done a strikerless formation before. However, the nature of the formation leads me to a few decisions straight away: By default gap between defence and attack, so want to minimise it: Very Fluid, Much Higher Defensive Line Line of 4 high up the pitch lends itself to a pressing game: Close Down Much More, Mugh Higher Defensive Line, Use Tigher Marking, Prevent Short Gk Distribution Need a link between the defense and attack, ideally from one of the DMs: Roaming Playmaker in the DM slots Now, a lot of this matches up with tactics that O-zil to the Arsenal! has been discussing recently. See Arrigo Sacchi 4-4-2 (Very Fluid) and Johan Cruyff's 3-4-3 (Very Fluid). So their work is a definite inspiration. As far as the roles for the shape, I had a look round Zonal Marking to see if there were teams with a similar shape I could imitate, and it turns out there is one in particular: France, Euro 2004. Not a complete match, but it gives me ideas. A Winger (S) on the right can help link defense and attack On the left an Inside Forward (A) and a Wing Back (S) provide width without the ball and attacking movement with it So that leaves me the rest of the roles and they're fairly straight forward. Standard GK (D), two CD (D), FB (S) on the right. One DM (S) with an RPM (S) alongside. Two central AM's are an AM (S) to help link up and an SS (A) to provide goal scoring threat. The SS (A) also presses lots which is great for this. The end result is this: Line Up Team Instructions Average Positions And I do have to say I've been pleased with the results so far in the friendlies I've played, especially this result against Lazio: Not bought any players, though if I do it's gonna be focused on CD's as there's not much depth there. Plenty of players for the other positions, especially with the promising youngsters the club has. Only player instruction is Distribute to Playmaker for the GK, may tweak some others as the season goes on.
  2. Well, this should be interesting. Never had a successful 0 striker formation before, and the central pair being DM's is definitely going to require some thought.
  3. I'm in, been having some fun really getting to grips with FM16 tactics recently so up for something a bit different.
  4. Got a 4-2-3-1, balanced, attacking, man marking with more romaing working very well for Athletic Bilbao. Really great to see the improvements in the new ME, especially with passing and full backs getting forward.
  5. cemendur88

    Football Manager 2013 Base Skins

    Do these downloads contain all the files used by both skins, looking through some of the panel .xml files in the FM base skin, looks like some of them reference file names that don't seem to exist.
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    FM13 - Athletic Club Bilbao - Los Leones

    Had my first youth intake, pretty pleased with it: Mario Diaz - Defender (Right)/ D©, WB®: 4 1/2 * potential, another great young right back Jose Luis Blanco - Defencer (Centre)/D(L): 4 * potential Asier Munoz - Defender (Centre)/ DM: 4 1/2 * potential, has a lot of stats in the right place already, and already rated as 1* David Santisteban - Attacking Midfielder (Centre)/ M©, AM(L): 4 1/2 * potential, another youngster with bags of potential. Xabier Aragon - Attacking Midfielder (Centre)/ AM(RL): 3 1/2 * potential, got a lot of good stats already. The two main U19 prospects from the start of the game are developing well: Kepa Arrizabalaga Markel Etxeberria
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    FM13 - Athletic Club Bilbao - Los Leones

    Fixed, will teach me to type them all out.
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    FM13 - Athletic Club Bilbao - Los Leones

    Cheers To me, with the improved play of full backs in the new Match Engine, it would be a mistake to not play with them. it hass been fantastic watching Iraola, Ramalho, Balenziaga and Aurtenetxe bomb down the flanks getting crosses and passes into the box. But then I do play very attacking football.
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    FM13 - Athletic Club Bilbao - Los Leones

    Cheers SRL88, already started my career game with them for this year. Did really enjoy playing them last year, the combination of skilled players and youth recruitment I find great fun. Even bought their shirt for this season based on FM
  10. http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/322584-FM13-Athletic-Club-Bilbao-Los-Leones Athletic Club
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    FM13 - Athletic Club Bilbao - Los Leones

    TACTICS PHILOSOPHY Bielsa has instilled a new style of player at Athletic and I personally enjoy trying to replicate it. I wrote a thread on doing this on FM12 here. His man marking and attacking system gets the most out of the players at the club, especially its gifted attackers. I use it in three formations: 4-2-3-1 This should be your first choice tactic, a lovely attacking formation with a fast pace and more roaming. 4-3-3 A good alternative, more solid defensively but a backup tactic to me. 4-3-2-1 An emergency backup formation for me, used once due to injuries to wingers. Should be used as such. GOOD LUCK! I hope this thread has inspired you to play as Athletic and given you many ideas on how to play them. Go out there and make Los Leones proud!
  12. ATHLETIC CLUB BILBAO BACKGROUND http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_Bilbao RECENT HISTORY 20122-12 was a very interesting season for Athletic Club. The appointment of Argentinian Marcelo Bielsa as manager led to a new tactical style of play for the club, though it took a while for the club to settle into it. Often marked by using players in positions they would not usual play in (Javi Martinez as a central defender) the new tactical style also feature rapid attacking movement and lots of man marking. It resulted in a fantastic run to the Europa League final, with victories against Manchester United along the way, where they lost 3-0 to Atletico Madrid. They also reached the 2012 Copa del Rey Final against Barcelona but again lost 3-0. This defeat did mean the club would however qualify for the 20-12-13 Europa League. The league was more disappointing, after a good run of form it tailed off and they finished 10th. The summer before the start of the 2012-13 season saw some turmoil off the pitch, with Javi Martinez being sold to Bayern Munich for €40m, and Fernando Llorente being kept at the club but often distant from the rest of the team. An altercation between Bielsa and contractors working on improvements to the Lezama training ground. It was not the positive summer the board had been hoping for. INFORMATION Board Expectation: EURO Cup qual. (league) Transfer Budget: £17.5m Wage Budget: £575k p/w (currently £392k p/w) Year founded: 1898 Nickname: Los Leones Derbies: Vasco Derby (vs R. Sociedad) Fierce rivals: R. Sociedad (local), Osasuna (local) Other rivals: Alaves (local), R. Madrid (competitive), Barcelona (competitive) Estimated value: £115m (loan debt: £24.5m) Media prediction: 6th. FACILITIES Stadium: San Mamés Capacity: 40000 all-seater Planned Expansion: Due to move into the 53100 capacity San Mames Barria on 30.9.2013 Training Facilities: Top training facilities Youth Facilities: Good youth facilities Junior Coaching: Good junior coaching Youth Recruitment: Extensive youth recruitment THE THREE BIG CHANGES FROM FM12 There are 3 key changes to playing as Athletic early on compared to FM12: Sale of Javi Martinez By far Athletic Clubs best midfielder, his sale to Bayern is a loss of quality to the club. There are replacements available in the form on Benat or Mike Rico but they're not of the same quality. The Llorente situation The best Basque striker in the game by a long way he is leaving the club on a free transfer at the end of the 2012-13 season unless you sell him before then. You will need to decide if you want to keep him for the season and get hopefully one least great go out of him, or cash in now whilst you can. Aduriz has joined the club, but he's not in the same league. Azpilicueta to Chelsea Often a first transfer window or January signing for many players, his move to Chelsea means that is unlikely to happen. How any games and how he performs for them will dictate if he becomes available to sign again, but for now you will have to look internally to strengthen the right back position. THE SQUAD GOALKEEPERS Gorka Iraizoz - First name on the team, good solid keeper. Starting to get on a bit but you should keep him at the club for many years to come. Raul Fernandez - Will do as a backup, but nothing special. Jon Ander Serantes - Very much third choice. Should rapidly be replaced by Arrizabalaga. Not good enough. Good first choice keeper, but a better backup is likely needed until Arrizabalga can be brought through from the U19s. FULL BACKS Andoni Iraola - Good attacking right back, also good tutor for the younger players. On the old side at 30 but will serve for a good few seasons. Jonas Ramalho - Can play at centre back or right back, should be used in rotation with Iraola. Tutor him as well to improve his determination. Unai Albizua - Simply not good enough, get him to Bilbao Athletic as soon as you can. Xabi Castillo - Nominally best left back but not really good enough. Replace as soon as possible. Jon Aurtenetxe - Like Romalho can play at centre back as well on the flank, should be used as main left back until that position can be reinforced. Right back is covered for a good few years, especially with Etxeberria coming through the U19s over the next few years. Left back is in dire need of a new signing. CENTRAL DEFENDERS Mikel San Jose - Talented young defender. Will be the rock at the heart of your defence for the next decade or so. Borja Ekiza - Another good central defender, again should be in the team for years to come. Fernando Amorebieta - Third choice central defender but good rotational player along with Ekiza and San Jose. At first glance this position appears to lack strength in depth, but Romalho, Aurtenetxe and Gurpergi can all play in this position as well so there is plenty of cover. CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS Ander Herrera - Best central midfielder at the club now Martinez has left. Makes a great advanced playmaker. Can also play at AM. Ander Iturraspe - Well rounded midfielder. Should get regular games. Carlos Gurpegi - Older but experienced midfielder, probably backup at this point. Very good tutor. Inigo Perez - Backup central midfielder, good stats but should not prevent de Galaretta from getting game time. Inigio Ruiz de Galaretta - The young prospect, already has good stats. Get him tutored and give him game time and he will be a key plater for years to come. There is good depth in central midfield, but perhaps a lack of quality. Will be talked about more in the transfer section lower down. ATTACKING MIDFIELDERS Iker Muniain - The wonderkid. A fantastically skilled player at 19, will be key for years to come. Oscar De Marcos - Mr. Versatility. Make full use of him across the attacking positions and he will play well in all of them. Markel Susaeta - Another versatile player with lots of skill. Ibai Gomez - Not quite at his potential yet, good player for the left aside of the pitch and will develop more with game time. Lots of young attacking talent here. Perhaps the strongest area of the team. Make full use of them to bring success. STRIKERS Fernando Llorente - The main man. A brilliant modern target man striker. Wonderfull skilled. Him leaving on a free is a real blow. Aritz Aduriz - Good rotational option, signed this year from Valencia. Is on the old side at 31. Should be put to good use as a tutor. Gaizka Torquero - A fan favourite, tends to always give his all. Use him upfront and on the right wing as a rotational player or impact sub. LLorente is the best striker at the club but is leaving on a free transfer. Aduriz and Torquero are good enough rotational players, but may struggle to lead the attack once Llorente is sold or leaves. YOUTH TEAM PROSPECTS Kepa Arrizabalaga - 17 year old keeper, already got a good distribution of stats. Needs to bulk up a bit in physical stats and you should tutor him asap with Iraizoz. Could be first choice keeper in a few years with the right development. first year should probably be kept at Athletic to develop before moving to Bilbao Athletic for game time. Markel Etxeberria - 17 year old right back. 4 star potential and already rated one star. Should be tutored by Iraola. Should get same development path as Arrizabalaga above. TRANSFERS Goalkeepers With Arrizabalaga coming through you may want to do nothing more than sell Serantes. If you do buy in a good quality keeper there are a copule of options: Stephane Ruffier - Perhaps the best Basque keeper in the game. His asking price has gone up from last year. Even after selling Llorente my scout reports did not give an estimated asking price so you may have to wait to get him. Asier Riesgo - Not as good as Ruffier but would be a better backup than Fernandez. Scout reports indicate he would be available for a couple of m £. Defenders A new left back is certainly a priority, and luckily there is one available. Mikel Balenziaga - Good quality left back from Valladolid. I got him for £3.5m Midfielders With the money available from the sale of Martinez, there are a few options to strengthen this position. Benat - Very skilled passer of the ball, very good midfielder. But he is expensive, got him for £17.5m in my game. Mikel Rico - A good well-rounded central midfielder, also nice and hardworking and determined. Available for around £8.75m If you do not sell Llorente I would go for Rico, but if you do sell him I would get both of the above and sell Inigo Perez as well as he would no longer feature in your plans. Attackers Only one real decision here, do you sell Llorente or not? Personally I decided to cash in on him, selling for £19m, rather than letting him for for a free. I re-invested the money in Benat and in improving the youth facilities. COACHING STAFF This area could do with almost a complete overhaul. Not many of the current staff are good enough. I kept the following and then got in new staff to fill out the numbers: Jose Maria Amorrortu - Director of Football Bingen Arostegi - Under 19s Manager Iru -Goalkeeping Coach Luis Bonini - Fitness Coach Pablo Quiroga - Fitness Coach Paco Angulo - Physio Jose Angel Iribar - Scout Carlos Melendez - Scout Inaki Moran - Scout Below are some suggestions for new coaches to sign, note I am an English manager in the game so this may affect whether some of them will join the club. Patrick Collot - Assistant Manager Thomas Habler - Coach Niko Kovac - Coach John Owens - Coach Angel Vales - Coach Pedro Jaro - Goalkeeping Coach Angelo Antenucci - U19s Coach Bobby Downes - U19s Coach Nicolas Zarur - Head Physio Grant Downie - Physio Gerhard Hoffmann - Physio Juanman Lopez - Chief Scout PLAN FOR THE FUTURE Despite the loss of some major players, the future looks bright. Core of talented young players Good youth recruitment Moving to new stadium next season Investing in upgrading the Youth Facilities as soon as possible should be a priority so they clubs youth system can produce players for you for decades to come. Make good use of the B team, Bilbao Athletic, to give young players lots of game time to develop once they've been tutored in the U19s. If you cannot make the most of your youth intakes you will struggle. There just aren't enough good Basque players who will join you to strengthen your team for the future otherwise.
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    FM13: Which thread would you like?

    I'll do the Athletic Bilbao thread later if that is okay.
  14. Personally I always use it when a player isn't performing well in training, combined with the "you need to work harder to stay in the first team" line, almost always gets a good reaction from the player and their training improves.