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  1. On ‎29‎/‎06‎/‎2018 at 11:47, RubenJ said:

    People feel confident, rightly considered just below the absolute favorites for the tournament. With Kompany hopefully back now in place for Boyata, we have a pretty stellar 11.

    Don't think too many people mind we won the group either. Literally everyone I know will be rooting for Colombia now though :D

    From what I hear from people around me almost everyone kinda expects us to easily beat Japan and be eliminated after Brazil. (with a cautionate "but Brazil haven't been playing that great so far")

    Also when you realistically look at the tournement I feel France, Uruguay, Croatia, (home team) Russia and (maybe even) Mexico had a more impressive tournement than us so far. You got to be honest, Belgium-England was a game between 2 reserve sides, and with Panama and Tunisia our group was maybe the weakest of the first round.

    A bit surprised the Colombia comment. Because again "in my surroundings" nobody really seems to care about England, whether they win the thing or not, as they were "just an opponent in the group phase"

    When I visit these boards it seems like the Belgium-England rivalry is actually a thing? :D

  2. Rubbish. No team attempts to draw all 3 games. They scraped through the group, relying on the results of other teams. Every team wants to win in 90 minutes. Portugal obviously didn't set up to draw and win on penalties. Did Ronaldo purposefully miss 50 opportunities because he didn't want to score against certain teams in case it meant winning?

    I hear what you're saying, I just don't understand it. Are you saying they didn't deserve to go through because they didn't play as well as they wanted? Or are you saying purpose is the keyword here? So a team that goes through after a cross ending up in the nets does not deserve to be in the next round?

    Because basically that would exclude pretty much every team. Every team aims for 3 wins and every chance resulting in a goal. But that's just not happenng.

    And in the end they relied on the the rules of the tournament which said the best top 3 teams were through to the next round.

  3. And the group stage is a league format. A league in which they failed to win a game.

    I don't understand why that actually matters. The goal of the group stages is to acquire enough points to proceed to the next round, which they succesfully did.

    There seems to be this weird obsession with some English users on this forum that somehow you need to win the match within 90 minutes otherwise the result is deemed invalid, set by the rules determined in this time and place. :D

  4. Gave it a 6/10 as well. Maybe 4-5 attractive games which I really enjoyed, no super memorable great games you'd remember more than 2 years from now, lots of mediocre games and I think about 4 really dire ones.

    At the end not a very attractive tournament with a (deserved but) not very attractive champion.

    I still wish they'll go back to 16 team next time.

  5. The Christano Ronaldo marketing machine working full hours again.

    Even when another player scores when Ronaldo is has been sitting on the bench for almost a full hour, it's all thanks to him ofcourse.

  6. I find it very comforting that even great teams like Germany have these rubbish players like Schweinsteiger in their squad and getting regular gametime, despite everyone except the manager knowing they'll have zero impact on the game. It's like Brazil WC 2014's Fred.

  7. And on a slight tangent to that, what a rise from that point. A little under three years ago, the final whistle blew on qualifying for Brazil 2014. Wales finished behind Scotland in 5th place, after only managing a win at home to Macedonia and a point against Belgium to add to their six points against Scotland. Now if we'd had a competent manager, I believe we would have gotten at least four of those back, but what a few years it has been for Wales. Two years after that campaign finished, they won their group, and less than a year later they were in a semi final.

    In all fairness I'm pretty sure we won our group and Wales came in second. (we lost the quarter final though, details) :)

  8. Let's be honest, everyone in this thread knows Scholes was not even close to being the best midfielder of his generation, although granted he was pretty great.The fact Zidane supposedly said it, is a bit suspect to say the least. So if it's not one of the 2 first options, you're kinda implying he's a blatant fool. :D

    (which would kinda depreciate the previous argument that a world class player has some sort of superior foolproof judgement or sense when it comes to rating other players)

    OK, I give in. Scholes was a pretty mediocre player and Lippi, Guardiola and Zidane are all fools that know less about identifying world class footballers than anybody here. (Xavi and Messi probably only regarded him as a "teacher" when learning how not to tackle too)

    And yes, he definitely got better after retiring rather than worse in his last few seasons after all the praise had been lavished on him.

    Wow that's amazing. Especially considering I'm saying the exact opposite in the paragraph you're quoting me on. :D

  9. I find the preoccupation some fans of rival clubs have with trying to claim he didn't say it or didn't really mean it weirder tbh. It's not as if United fans have ever struggled to find people other than Zidane to add to the Scholes praise lists and memes...

    Let's be honest, everyone in this thread knows Scholes was not even close to being the best midfielder of his generation, although granted he was pretty great.

    The fact Zidane supposedly said it, is a bit suspect to say the least. So if it's not one of the 2 first options, you're kinda implying he's a blatant fool. :D

    (which would kinda depreciate the previous argument that a world class player has some sort of superior foolproof judgement or sense when it comes to rating other players)

  10. I have no idea who the hell that is :D

    Apparently (supposedly) highly-rated Icelandic attacker who players for AZ. Plays for Iceland National -U17.

    Read somewhere about a month ago that his mother is Belgian and therefor Belgium is interested in having him as well. Trained with our national -U17 2 months ago.

    Truthfully first thing I heard about him as well.

  11. I would expect scouts from Europe here next season (which is now, really, seeing as how ours is a summer league) based mostly on the fact that they already come watch our games. Oh and based on the fact we are sending kids abroad already by the dozens when they are 14-15, I'd say they are well underway with the diamond prospecting

    Speaking of Iceland talents, how good is Jonatan Ingi Jonsson? :)

  12. He literally said "Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation" in response to that question. I'm not really sure that can be interpreted as anything other than saying he was the best midfielder [from that generation] he played against. Sure, he's probably said that about more than one footballer of Scholes' generation at various times, but I don't think he's said it about anyone that wasn't world class.

    Personally I think a good definition of "world class footballer" is people that the likes of Zidane, Guardiola and Lippi think are world class footballers

    Well did he literally say that quote? Because I've seen that quote written down in all forms and shapes but never the same.

    Also I beg the differ that former world class footballers opinions about you automatically makes you "a world class footballer" because I've seen the like of Marco Van Basten, Frank Rijkaard and Ruud Gillit having some high praise for some pretty terrible players. And then there's again that definition of what is a world class player?

    I also like to repeat Mr Walin's argument that apparently for the Ballon D'or neither Zidane, Guardiola or Lippi ever voted for the midfielder they regarded as the best of his generation.

    To be perfectly clear, I do think Scholes was a top class and probably top 20-30 of best midfielders from 00-10.

  13. Vertonghen in the center instead of Vermaelen, would've been no (or barely a) downgrade. I'm really not that confident about Denayer (or Ciman for that matter). I'm not doubting his talent, but he's definitely not there yet and a step below our other options.

    Didn't leave the most secure impression on me in his previous appearances. Jordan Lukaku is good offensively, but his spot in the team means Hazard is required to do a lot more defending, as Jordan is prone to leave a sea of space in his back. I'm/I was a lot more confident about meeting Hungary and Portugal than Wales, who really do not suit our type of play and weaknesses

  14. Myeah in the end the Zidane quote is no more than him saying to - minor nuance - the English media that he was the toughest opponent he ever faced. That does not necessarily mean he was the best midfielder or opponent at the time.

    Personally I think Paul Scholes was absolute class. But some people have a different understanding of the term world class. For some there are about 40-50 world class players in the world. For others there are only about 5, maybe max 10. So it is something you could argue about. Was there any point in his career when Scholes was one of the 5 or 10 best players in the world?

  15. I've read that argument quite a few times the past years in the Dutch media about young Dutch players - especially affter their previous campaign - and also about a lot of Anderlecht youth players after they lost the title last year. I don't think it's an English thing rather than a worldwide phenomenon. I think it's more about a generation gap, where a lot of older players see how much has changed in comparison to when they were young.

    There are a lot more arrangements concerning training and school, the facilities have changed immensely, and there are constantly agents hanging around the training fields offering better deals.

    Also until 10-15 years back you could score 50 goals for the reserve side and play a succesful youth tournament and only a handful of people would know. Now the same players would be world famous before they even make their debut in the first team. Online and social media don't make it very easy for them either.

    But again, you could argue in English football there is just more of it. More attention from tabloids and more money. But personally I have my doubts that it's an English issue and the direct cause of their early exit.

    I mean German, French and Spanish youngsters have the same obstacles and they seem to be doing relatively alright?

  16. not really.

    population means nothing.

    Population, economy and sports culture are probably the 3 determining factors tbh. Hence why I also pointed out 'small football country' and 'football powerhouse' as in the status of the sport in those countries.

    Saying population means nothing is not true ofc.

  17. Surely this must be one of the biggest upsets ever in international football? A small football country with about 330.000 inhabitants defeating a football powerhouse (well yeah ok) with a population of 53.000.000.

    Not in a qualifying stage, but during the actual tournament. Amazing really.

    I honestly can't think of a bigger one.

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