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    FM24 - Bayer Leverkusen

    in Good Player & Team Guide

    Posted

    On 16.11.2023 at 05:33, BanOly said:

    [in progress]

    Tactics

    Countering Germany
    You don't have to follow German football too closely to have heard of its reputation for high-pressing football. The "Gegenpress" (meaning 'counter-press' in German) has been made famous and spread across Europe by the likes of Tuchel, Klopp and Rangnick. Its primary aim is to position defenders high enough up the pitch to instantly close down the opposition the moment that possession is lost, in an immediate effort to win the ball back. As a result, German football has gathered a reputation for both physical intensity, and as an unfortunate by-product, often less-than-admirable defending. Players who possess high levels of pace such as Timo Werner, Alphonso Davies and even our own Kai Havertz have often found it easy to make Bundesliga defences look distinctly amateur, by breaking quickly on the counter and catching out these high defensive lines.

    It should then come as no surprise that Moussa Diaby enjoyed such a standout season last year, earning himself a move to Aston Villa to join Leon Bailey - yet another pacey player who benefited from the tactical nature of the Bundesliga. This season, Frimpong continues to be one of our best-performing players, and Werkself talisman Wirtz isn't exactly slow either.

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    Attacking players and how quickly and effectively they break the defensive line
    (dribbling, off-the-ball positioning, acceleration, pace, stamina)

    So is that it - does a quick player essentially make a good player in the Bundesliga? Xabi Alonso knew immediately that counter-attacking football would be key to breaking down these high lines, but you can't have eleven pacey attackers in a football team. This brings us to the second part of Alonso's tactical philosophy.

    Upon looking at the Leverkusen squad closely, you might have noticed that there is a wide range of playmakers at the club. Xhaka, Palacios, Wirtz and Hofmann all possess fantastic passing ability, but looking beyond the midfield, we can also see that Grimaldo has fantastic passing, composure and vision. In addition, all the defenders on the team have fantastic ball-playing abilities, even Tah who will play a primarily ball-winning role in defence.

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    Defenders and their ability to win the ball back (anticipation, teamwork, tackling)
    as well as their creativity (passing, vision, composure, decisions, anticipation)

    These are the two fundamental player profiles that exist at the club, and they define the way Leverkusen operate offensively. If you don't have the creativity needed to release the pacey players on the counter, then you better be one of them.

     

    The Alonso Philosophy
    [in progress]

      

    I'm looking forward to your tactics. @BanOly
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    Emulating Xabi Alonso's Bayer Leverkusen

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted

    On 30.10.2023 at 05:01, Sébastien ChabaI said:

    Friends, foes, and fragile minds - i return with a gift of a tactical masterclass in the emulation sector, this is the peak of tactical replication on the sigames forum

    This is xabi's leverkusen vs freiberg which occurred on sunday the 29th of october:

    disregard haste, within the limitations of the match engine (fm24) we have had to forgo certain TI's which unfortunately now negate around 10% possession in order to create a tactic that yields results

    i've been reading the posts here, and what i think you all lack is a creative bone, dont limit yourselves to these 'roles' that are on fm, broaden your mind, yes perhaps in real life boniface is a true cf, except he's not, and he's not an advanced forward either, he's boniface and xabi alonso has sliders irl and he can use to tell him what to do in and out of posession, rather than saying today big bon you are going to play CFa, capisce? with the lack of options and (bring back sliders in some manner) by giving us colorful position dummies you have all become attached to roles where infact you need to approach the game differently from this day onwardsimage.png.bbd598a5aa29ff7b6d51b9842eba2f90.png3

    we currently play the best football on the planet, like leverkusen

     

    with the extreme limitations of the match engine, this is the closest you will get:

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    wirtz = f9, moves into channels. now go and watch a leverkusen game, frimpong defends way higher than wba/cwba, so dw is ideal with gets further forward and crosse from byline, some games he cuts inside, some games he runs wide with it, again, we are limited to only selecting one image.png.1d67e7a00585f45fbc21930f5e98f04c.png so i don't select one, because i dont want these limits

    for the LWB, stay wider take more risks dribble more, now you may say, but grimaldo moves inside to take long shots a lot of the game, no he doesn't he simply does not, he takes long shots from positions he finds himself in during set pieces, and playing the lwb as wba instead of iwba you will still see the boy running inside as long as you once again don't limit the player to running wide with the ball!

     

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    free your minds from self imposed shackles

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    savio is the wirtz position, he doesn't have comes deep to get ball etc  and look where he often finds himself with the ball ala wirtz

    look at the two midfielders deciding a 1-1 pattern ala xhaka palacios

    shadow striker on fm is not shadow striker irl, do not be fooled by the names given to you

    out of posession we look like a back 4 at times, and a back 3 at other times, ala leverkusen

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    this is it, capisce

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    edit: nevermind i give up, impossible atm lets see what me is like on release!

    HELLO @Sébastien Chabal CAN YOU SHARE YOUR TACTICS?

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    Emulating Xabi Alonso's Bayer Leverkusen

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted

    On 29.10.2023 at 23:34, BanOly said:

    Pretty much what I've arrived at. RDF did a tactical analysis a short while ago for FM23 that covers how we play extremely well, but got a few things wrong. You're spot on that Boniface/Schick play as a CF not AF, and Tah covers the defence instead of sitting level.

    The three biggest challenges to replicate on FM for sure are Grimaldo, Palacios and Hofmann.

    Grimaldo is a LOT more defensive than Frimpong, which makes me think he's not a CWB. Wing-back (Support) works very well in terms of overall positioning, but inrl he often winds up central during attacks to get off long shots, which doesn't happen with that role. So I tried him on IWB (Attack) but that trade-off means his positioning isn't quite right, because now he sits too centrally when we're out of possession too.

    Palacios is, as you've said, the chief ball-winner of our midfield, who often racks up many tackles, interceptions and recoveries per match over Xhaka. However he is also very creative, and has notched up a lot of assists. If only there were a Central Midfielder/Carrilero role for the DM position... I think SV is the closest we can get, but he doesn't perform well for me in that role.

    Finally, as you've covered, Wirtz is definitely a CAM and the primary creative outlet for the team but Hofmann operates halfway between CAM and RW and he doesn't really have a role that replicates what he does on FM. I've been playing them both as CAMs but while this works for Wirtz it isn't getting the best results out of Hofmann.

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    HELLO @BanOly CAN YOU SHARE YOUR TACTICS?

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