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  1. the selling of players is definitely different on this FM, my selling tactics that have worked on the previous FMs are not that effective on FM15. I have also noticed that is similar with loaning out, good youngsters willing to go on loan dont get any loan bids inspite of me using all tools available (offering to clubs, with or without wages, listing them on devolpment list, talking to them etc. )
  2. You could mix it up a bit, but it is not a big problem with having two wide midfielders both on WM(a). WM(a) offers varied approach, they run into space, dribble, make thru balls, cross and shoot, they do little bit of everything. It would be a problem if both were on W(a) as the winger has a more one-sided approach. I do change sometimes the left WB on attack and the left WM on support, however that is a riskier approach and in the case of playing a WM(s) I really think that it is more suitable to have a "wrong footed" player for the side i.e. a right footed player on the left WM(s) position in order so make the "cut inside" more natural so that the wing back shoots ahead and overlaps.
  3. Its a bit of personal preference of choosing formation to fit a counter attacking style of play. Like you said in a 4411 if rigid then you might isolate the AMC and ST, since players in the AM strata behave as forwards, not as midfielders. I play the 4411 as standard. And as a counter attacking variation of it I play 4141 as a counter tactic. DLF(s) WM(a) DLP(d) CM(a) WM(a) DMC(d) WB(s) DC(d) DC(d) FB(s) This is the formation. What i want to achieve with it is very fast attacks, no long build up play but i don’t not want any long balls either from my back four, because such wasting of possession would mean inviting too much pressure in the match as a whole. I want to play out of defense, they pass around a bit find a winger or the DLP and then the attack begins. After two more passes from there the attack usually ends. When the attack ends i want the team to get into a defensive shape, to fall back. the team instructions to achieve the above that i use are: mentality: Control/rigid play out of defense drop deeper stand off opponents the back four has individual instructions to pass it shorter, the wide midfielders to run more with ball, the DLF to roam from position it is a defensive counter tactic since for the majority of the time i just defend and I rarely develop attacks that involve more than the wide midfielders, the central attacking midfielder and the DLF. All my attacks are carried by four people, sometimes the WB(s) gets up too but not that often.
  4. About the Target Man: it is probably better to use a strong player when playing a lone striker but in addition of being strong he needs to be also technically good and quite creative, he needs to be able to do more then being a areal target. You maybe have this kind of player, i don't know. The second thing is to give this player the instructions to do this double role of both linking play and finishing. A target man is very static, he stands centrally upfront and waits for the balls to be played to him. He could play this dual role of both linking play and finishing but only if has a striker partner near him. So what you need is a player capable of playing either, Complete forward, Deep lying forward or trequartista, a false nine could also function but then you need to think little bit different about who is going to be your primary goal treat because a false nine would not be that. About the coaches: Apart from attribute Attacking the coach for attacking training needs to have good attribute in tactics, determination, motivation and discipline + man management. If a coach does not have continental license is probably better because then they have opportunity to develop further. A coach with the highest license has very little improvement potential.
  5. yes that is exactly so about Jonathan, because in your tactic if you want something to happen on the wings you must have someone like Jonathan on the wing back regarding the posts i think that is important not to waste someone good at man marking on the posts so i put two of my worst players defending wise there, the idea is to prevent them from trying to man mark when they lack the ability to do so
  6. Yeah there is a problem with zonal defending corners, the issue is known by SI but its a miss and unlikely to be fixed in the FM14, see more here http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/386248-14.3-Corners In spite of the limitations of the tools we have I still try to think logically about corners, inspired by real life football take Zlatan Ibrahimovic as an example, he is imposing and big guy but quite crappy at marking and tracking people in defensive situations, so how do you use him in a defensive set piece situation? IRL both in the club and national team he is covering the near post. That is the best position for good jumper and header that is bad at defending. His job is to clear all underhit and bad corner crosses, he guards a place, position on the field rather then a person. So as I always have a big guy in my attack I put the big guy on the near post, the far post is harder to aim for so there i put some small guy from attacking midfield to be around and make a clearance of a low ball in case something slips thru One another thing that does not function in FM is the specific instruction to man mark small or tall guys. That leads to some funny situations where your best headers leave the penalty box and man-mark some tall guy that lurks outside so what i do is to take the best seven man-markers (guys with high man-marking attribute and solid concentration) and put them on man mark, the worst player defensive wise is put on the edge of area. I think it is crucial to have someone guarding the edge of area as this guy will take on short clearances and engage the opposition in case they back-pass to the edge of area, without the player on the edge of area you will invite extra long pressure on your goal so its vital I rarely concede on corners but my teams are usually better defensively than offensively, with more defensively orientated fullbacks and defensively oriented central midfield. That Jonathan guy that you showed would be something I would put on MR AND put someone more defensively skilled behind him as a fullback.
  7. 1. The first advice is not to make too drastic changes from one game to another, your players need to settle to a certain style. 2. As you mention your tactic is really predictable, you sit back with six players and attack with four and all the time the same four players, the two wingers, the striker and the AMC, 3. Drop deeper to a rigid tactic on defend means that the gap between the attacking four and the rest of the team will be massive and the outcome of it will be long balls from your backline, You must first decide what you want from your team (apart from winning), do you want to control possession? Do you want to play counter attacking transition football? When you decide this it is easier to build up a logical tactic. If you want short passing game and you also want your backline to participate in it you need to compress the space between your lines, you must also think about having suitable players for this kind of football. defenders with low composure, totally crappy technique and first touch and bad decisions, will not play the short passing game well - I think that composure is the most important attribute for defenders that you want to be playing short passing game It would be easier to give more advice if you tell what you want to achieve with the tactic.
  8. I like set pieces. Offensively I like to create diversions of some sort. I have had a lot of success with the tactic of delivering the ball to the "wrong guy". I'll put my best headers at the near post and to attack from deep and put the shortest guy to attack the far post where I play the ball, I then just love it when he puts it away. another tactic that I use is to play the whole game the ball on the far post to my best headers only to switch the focus in the 89th minute and play the ball to the near post to my forward, it has happened quite a few times that I have managed to score with this approach However my primary set piece tactic is to try to put the ball to the far post and from there I expect the ball to be passed to my unmarked striker on the near post, the is the best tactic, since the focus of the defending players is on the ball and the immediate goal treat they often leave the secondary treat totally unmarked, if the ball somehow gets from the far post to the near post then it is almost a certain goal. Free kicks I feel are very difficult to control as a manager as we do not have so many different options, you can put one player to attack the keeper, one to disrupt the wall and that is it,
  9. I watched Salzburg a couple of times in the group stage since they played against a Swedish team and i think that tactic they use i pretty simple 4-2-4, very rigid the four upfront are 3 on attack and one on support, the rest of the team sits deep and never comes in attacks except on set pieces, they play direct and fast the best thing to make this work on FM is probably to make 4-6-0 tactic with two players in AMC and on two on the wings and the defensive midfielders in DMC, probably DLPs, as they seem to put a lot of thru balls if you watch the ajax games you see perfectly how the team "splits" when they have the ball, when they defend they look as a whole unit but when they take the ball the four attacking players separates from the "team body" and they run in line, without roaming, just straight forwards runs
  10. No, you should not change the CM(a) to AP(a), you need someone making forward runs from central midfield, APs dont make forward runs in the same way a regular CM(a) does, anyway a CM(a) is very creative role, give Lewa the instruction to "shoot less often", he does not have the stats for long shots so try to restrict his attempts.
  11. Begin from his form stats. What do you see there? I see the following: 1. He loses more than 50 % of the headers. The question is, do you know why this is so? Do you want to play like this? 2. In half the games he has 4 or more shots - that would be enough to score if those were good shots - i assume he takes stupid long shots or some forced shots from difficult positions I think that the lost headers and the off target shots for Lewandowski are down to your playing with attacking mentality.
  12. I played a similar setup only difference the IF on the left was a winger in the ML position. my roles were different but the duties were the same as in your setup. I also played Balanced/standard, TI: play out defence. In game i was adjusting pressing and d-line according to the match developments and i sometimes changed the mentality in game, ranging from attacking to counter for brief periods of time. Now the most interesting was the position of WMR(s) in order to get him more inside i had my MC player on the center left (like you) this made it possible for the Wide midfielder to get narrower which i already instructed to get narrower and to cut inside with the ball. What i never had the chance to test was a left footed player there, i think that a left footed guy in there would be even more perfect for the role of "false 7" The WMR(s) played long thru balls, crossed (but not that much), held the ball and played it wide for the DR and got late in the box. He was basically acting as an AP(s). In some games I added some defensive instructions too, like "mark tighter" , "tackle harder" as the guy i played there was a fancy DLP (good defense + creativity + technique and decent pace) - with the "mark tighter" and "tackle harder" I added some dimensions that a DW has, but did not restricted the creative freedom that a WM(s) has I enjoyed the tactic and the football produced. The constant struggle for me was to get enough players in the box when attacks developed on the left side. Because when the left winger had the ball all i had in the box was effectively the ST and the AMC with the WMR arriving late and the DR pushing forward but wide
  13. Do you always play Control/Balanced? In every match? My experience of the game is that you need to be responsive to the on field happenings. If by playing control/balanced style you can’t achieve your primary goal (possession, nice football and victories or whatever) then you need to change it. If you were good in the first season, and not so good in the second, and even worse in the third, then it is because you failed to adapt/change your tactic according to your primary goal (possession, nice football and victories). But, BUT it also so that you might have got away with it if, IF you were masterful in the art of motivating and man management. In this sub forum "Tactics and training" I think that the majority of the master tacticians as well as the rest of the visitors and contributors to this forum are generally average or below par when it comes to man management and team motivation as problems are often solved by changing and adapting the tactic. You don't seem to be awful with man management but you do not seem to be masterful either so as your players get overconfident and complacent coupled with the pressure to achieve has obviously led to some kind of vicious cycle where they don't perform as the could and should. For me it is harder to improve my teams performance by some motivational stuff and mind games so when i see that they don't perform as i expect, i tweak the tactic and/or change players. I never change my personal goals, I always strive to keep my vision but I reevaluate my approach to it from game to game and from season to season and I let my ass man to do the team talks and I offload unhappy players in the very split-second they show that unhappiness to me or the press. Of course I see the players as only instruments for achieving my own success which is not that humanely and it is not how it works (or should work) in real life but this is a game.
  14. the tactic you describe resembles the most a 4-4-2 diamond with wingers (4-1DM-2-1-2) I imagine this being a very fluid tactic with the IFs sitting narrow and roaming, the player in the AMC position is a regular AM the DMC is a regular DMC, the WMs run wide and hug line and the full backs are regular fullbacks You will be able to get enough players in attack the problem is the defensive balance you might struggle against three-man-midfield formations
  15. I agree with JOSEPH! You have not given enough info but the biggest flaw in tactics that depend on crossing is not getting enough players in the box. If your lone striker is the only one in the box waiting for the cross then expect that the players in crossing positions will not just pump the ball if there is nobody but the striker in the box, why would they? Such a ball is a lost ball, a lone striker is easily man marked by two DCs. If there are no good crossing options they will try to run with the ball or pass it sideways or backwards You must push with at least three (obviously the more the better but you must weight in the risk of being defensively exposed if you push with, say five, players in the box) players in the box. If you have the right players on the wings(fast, good crossers and dribblers with decent decisions) and the right players in the box, (strong or/and fast, good headers and off the ball) you should be getting 1 cross in out of five plus create couple of corners from the rest crossing attempts which in turn should give some extra crossing opportunities. I regularly have at least three players in the box when the crosses are delivered and my cross completion ratio for the winger is 18 % which is good considering that the cross attribute for the guy is 9
  16. You are too negative, rigid + more disciplined + drop deeper + shorter = pointless possesion If you have players capable (relative to the league you play in) of playing playmakers, and you have choosen two playmakers (the DLP(d) and AP(s)) in your setup then you really should give them some freedom to make plays, if you know why you are playing rigid and counter then it is ok to play it but you really should consider taking of "Be More Disciplined", "shorter passing" and "drop deeper". The rigid counter is already very deep setup and it is already very restrictive with creative freedom adding more of it will lead to killing nearly all goalscoring treats. after you take off those three instructions you could evaluate how it goes and tweak where necessery.
  17. thanks for the inspiration. I got a lot of a tweaked WM(s). 3 goals and 5 assists in 13 games. I did something very unconventioanl for being me. I added a lot of individual instructions "shoot less often" "run more with the ball" "fewer risky passes" sometimes "get further forward" "sit narrower" "tackle harder" "mark tighter" In this way a got some of the good defensive stuff that a DW(s) has, took away some of the unwanted stuff that a WM(s) has and added stuff that he lacks. but it is important to have the right player for this. My back up who played some 7-8 games after january did not produce any of the stuff that the 1st choice provided
  18. The tactic DLF(a) AMC (a) W(a) CM(d) DLP(d) DW(s) FB(s) CD(stopper) CD(cover) FB(a) Individual instructions: DLF(a) (less shooting, roam from position, move into channels) AMC(a) (less shooting, roam from position) WL(a) (less shooting, roam from position) clMD(d) (less shooting) crDLP(d) DWR(s) (less shooting,) FBL(s) CDL cover (shorter passing) CDR stopper (shorter passing) FB(a) GK(d) (pass shorter, distribute to defenders) Philosophy: Fluid Mentality: Standard Team instructions: Play out of defence Push higher up Back up tactic: The same, 4-4-1-1 individual instructions: the same plus less closing down on all except the two CDs and GK + ease off tackles on DW(s) Philosophy: Balanced Mentality: Control Team instructions: Play out of defence Drop deeper Context: Among the best teams in L2 England, the whole first 11 is completely new, the team is Mansfield, very low reputation, have played until January we are 3rd Producing football with 4 scoring options. DLF, AMC, WL(a) and set pieces – the DLF stand for 40 % of the goals, the AMC stands for 25 %, WL(a) 15 % and the rest of the team for the other 20 %. The rotation is quite high so almost the whole team have scored at least once. The problem: The problem is that the DW is too much of a defensive winger (i need something else/more of this player) The DW(s) does not link the Attacking players with the holding midfielders. I have a huge gap when attacking, between the AMC and the holding central mids. The DW does not link the attacking players with the holding midfield because he acts like a holding midfielder too, is too far back, he does not provide a passing option for the DLF or the AMC and he never visits the far post on crosses from the left winger. Now I would not mind the gap if I manage to get four players in attack, but I manage to get only three on attack for most of the attacks, most of the attacks happen centrally or on the left side, but in these cases the left winger or the AMC has only two attacking options for passing/crossing since the DW does not join at all, he stays back and basically acts like a fullback on defend duty. Is this because of the fullback that is on attack duty? Would the behavior of the DW change if the right full back is on support? When the attack is on the right side, when the DW is on a run it gets much more dangerous since then I have three players in the box (WL, AMC and DLF) and usually the WL totally unmarked. The defensive winger is great for the role attribute wise, good work rate and teamwork, good defensive skills (marking and tackling) and good technique and dribbling skills, not so good anticipation, pace, crossing and finishing. The first choice is producing the best performances but I still don’t get what I want from this player and the role. He is a retrained fullback, accomplished in MR, has no PPMs. I like his defensive contribution, but I feel it is not enough. I have considered changing him to a WM(a) and lowering the DLF or the AMC on support but then I lose some of the scoring potential for either the AMC or the DLF and I’m not sure what I would gain with the WM(a) on attack since this guy is bad at scoring and bad at crossing. I have also considered playing him on WM(s) but I feel like the WM(s) is more of a playmaker role with more risky passes forward, less running with the ball, less forward runs, which is not what I need, I have the holding midfielders, particularly the DLP who is very good at this. The third option I have considered is to put the right full back on WB(a) or CWB(a) so that I instead of requesting impact from the RM I involve the right fullback more in attacking? What do you think I should do?
  19. The mentalities seem not working properly becuse people do not take into consideration the style and menatlity of the other team. If you set the mentality on "counter" it will work as fine counter tactic if the oppoisition is playing attacking and with a high line, if they stand off then you will experience the effect of your tactic "not working" similarly if you play "control" but fail to control is because of a mis-match in mentalities, control is played against teams that do not hassle - if you are a better team you might win with a control tactic against agressive hassling team but they will also get their chances at some point it is hard to see what the opposition is actually playing but i take the reputation as a indicator, if you are a low rep team, the others will be more attacking, if you are high rep team the others will be more cautious - so a begin from there (you also might want to see how the manager of the opposition likes to play attacking/defending stand off/pressing man marking/zonal/mixed etc) high rep team that whants to play the counter game needs still to have at least a "control" or "attacking" menatlity with few individual or team instructions like less pressing or stand off more and a deeper line (but this also depends on fluidity/creative freedom)
  20. You leave a lot of space for the opposition to hit you with that setup. You need at least one midfielder that holds position, (CM(d) or DLP(d)), the other can be, BTB(s) or some other support role. The fullbacks, its too much to have both of them on attack, switch one on support - remember when you play fluid the creative freedom is quite high and players on attack duty have much higher creative freedom, i do not know who is your fullback but they usually are quite limited with creativity so dont give them something that they cant use. One winger on W(a) is OK but i would really suggest to choose another role for the other winger to add a bit different dimension to your game, perhaps wm(a) or wm(s) or dw(s) the striker should definitly be anything else but a Poacher, the ideal is of course if you have some player that could play a CF(a or s) but if you lack that choose some other mobile role like DLF (a) or DLF(s) I guess playing on counter mentality is ok but if that does not work switch to standard of the team instructions you have "hassle opponents" is the one that i would reconsider the most, its effective to hassle but maybe not as a standard option, its good to switch to hassle for shorter periods of the game but to have it on all the time will lead to stupid mistakes at some point
  21. Just ignore the message "gap between midfield and attack is too big" a Treq will link attack and midfield, but you really should have at least one central midfielder on attack duty, its particularly important to have it if you play "balanced" fluidity i also suggest reading The Mentality Ladder: A Practical Framework for Understanding Fluidity and Duty, the sticky thread on this forum. If you have managed to spread around the goalscoring well around the team then you have done a good job with creating a tactic, in the long run it is better to have more/several scoring options in the team (=less goals by the strikers) then to be all-dependent on their scoring.
  22. as for signing players, you could maybe find someone of the more reputable players to sign for a reasonable wage on the last day of the transfer window. In the last days of the transfer window their wage demands are lower
  23. I was under the impression that Panathinaikos has a better team but this team that you showed is not that good, it would be quite hard to make a perfect record, i think that you must accept that you will lose some games. Your defence and your centre back pair is particularly poor they lack pace and acceleration and mental attributes such as decisions and anticipation and composure. I think it is very dangerous to play "hassle opponents" when your centre backs are slow and poor at anticipation (one of them) and decisions (both of them) plus one of your central midfielders is also poor at decisions, these guys will make mistakes if you push them to press that much When you give a central defender the role of Limited Defender their passing is automatically increased to almost maximum, they will just hoof the ball as long and as far a way as possible, if you then give them the instruction to pass shorter then this will be decreased but not as much as you want, if you want to play a control game you can't give your central defenders the role of Limited defenders. look at the stats in the Paok game, the passing accurancy of your central defenders is below 50 %, they just lose you too many balls. Further, I dont think that you need a stopper because you have two defensive midfielders that cover that area. Best choice for the central defenders is to have them on Central defender (defend) and for next season try to find at least one defender that is better. Especially the left central defender is really not suited for the type of game you need to play if you are Panathinaikos. The right full back is OK on FB(s) The left full back could be FB(a) or WB(a), my personal preference is to play FB(a) but some may advise you to play WB(a), anyway you must sometimes change his role to WB(s) or FB(s) if you see that its not going well in the match for you and maybe if you are leading 1:0 and it is 5 minutes left and the other team starts to play 4-2-4 or some other attacking formation you need to change him from attack to support. Your central midfield pair is OK but not great, the Right Defensive Midfielder/Right Central Midfielder has bad first touch, concentration and decisions, particularly the latter two are important for a defensive midfielder, he is great with stamina and work rate and has solid technique and dribbling skills for a DMC so you might play him either as BWM(s) or DMC(s), the left central midfielder is either an Anchor or a DMC(d). I would play them as a pair of DMC(s) and DMC(d) the right midifelder is best as W(a) the left winger is a nice player, I would play him as DW(s) the attacking midfielder is nice but has one problem, he is very one footed, he plays only with right foot, that is bad for a creator particularly if he plays in central midfield, his effect will be limited because he is very one footed. I think that you need to play him as AP(a) because you have too little attack roles in the team. the striker is good you can’t play him as Target man he would have a very limited effect with a target man role, you should play him as a DLF(A) it is very hard to say if you could make it with a rigid approach in all games, some away games against poor reputation teams will be very frustrating but your basic approach should be GK FBR(s) CD(d) CD(d) FBL(a) or WBL(a) DMCR(s) DMCL(d) RMW(a) (roam from position) LMDW(s) AP(a) (roam from position + close down more) DLF(A) Rigid Control (away against bigger teams you play standard Work ball into box This will give you a “solid approach”, you will not score a lot of goals and you will not concede a lot For next season you need one good central defender and one better central midfielder, who can both defend and attack You must be more flexible, read about in-game changes in this forum
  24. Well.. from the fixture list you provided you do look pretty solid because you did not concede that many goals but perhaps when you say "solid" you mean you want to play another style? You want to play like Atletico Madrid, Chealsea, Lille or Everton? There are a number of teams in europe playing kind of "negative" football and are quite good in doing that. I dont think that a negative tactic will give you results against the smaller teams in the greek league, there is too big differance in reputation between the three bigger teams in greece and the rest of the teams. Every time Panathanaikos, Olympiacos and Paok play the smaller teams they will defend and play on the counter. I think that a Control, possesion based tactic is the best choice for the big teams in Greece, if you are too attacking, the small teams will hit you on the counter, if you are too coutious you will not suceed in pentrating them on regular bases. I truly think that you can't play negative football with Panathanaikos and be sucessfull against the opposition that you have in greece because of the reputation that you have. You will simply have too many draws. but that is just my opinion based on playing on other similar leagues where you have two or three big teams and the rest are very small i have not played the greek league, at least not on FM14.
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