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  1. i'd be interested, i've wanted to build a club philosophy from the lower leagues, tactically at least it'll be about the fundamentals of how we want to play -quick passing -a higher press -higher line -not overpaying for players no matter how good they are -depending on youth academies more than transfer dealings etc etc, that'll be what my next save is about, i'm relatively new to the game so i'm trying to create a successful manager whose won the league in all top 4 divisions and won the european cup with at least 4 different clubs in a time span of 33 years, i've still got 30 to go
  2. i think he meant that if you played at a higher tempo you'd move the ball around quicker and by consequence your players would have to move their positions faster into attacking zones, if you lose the ball easily playing higher tempo your players can be caught out easier and be susceptible to counter attacks yourself
  3. it was actually DMs , in old formations there were no center backs i think
  4. just the default ones really, i wasnt sure how i exactly wanted them to play and i thought i'd get whacked anyways so whats the point so i didnt change the roles
  5. yeah... the amazing thing was leipzig are a much stronger team on paper yet by chances on goal we were equal, the extra man ended up paying off as they hit on the break i suppose
  6. 2 Dms 3cms 5 attackers (2 wingers, 2 dlfs and one af) the team instructions were a high defensive line, much more direct passing (i had about 3? maybe 5 men in the box so it seemed logical), close down less, highly structured a higher tempo float crosses and play the ball to wide areas or pump the ball into box i want to recreate a 2-3-5 of olden times so that's why i chose the highly structured shape
  7. i tried it against leipzig as augsburg and was leading 2-1 at half time... until i got a player sent off and the game ended 4-8 to leipzig, very entertaining, i wonder if anyone has made a save with that tactic
  8. that sounds interesting, how do see yourself progressing from that to when say you're the stronger side and have to be the one breaking teams down who sit quite deep? don't you think that mentality can leave you more vulnerable to the oppositions counters if they just sit off deep?
  9. yes, i found that out the hard way as my flank was regularly exposed and i inevitably conceded while my attacking options down that flank were minimal, so i've just used an attacking full back instead
  10. yes you are right, it's just that i used a 4-4-1-1 on the counter with my last team i wanted to do something more adventurous and reactive, i wanted to use the inside forwards as players who would overload in the center seeing as though in the bundesliga most teams play with a duo in midfield having said that i've taken experienced defenders suggestion with a few tweaks here i changed the fullback into a wingback so he could play more vertical and take advantage of the wide areas left by the IF creating a 2v1 vs the opposition fullback and subsequently the IF drops into a channel in behind the two midfielders overloading the center of the field, my box to box midfielder, my fullback is staying behind the winger as he is going to keep a back 3 in shape, in case my left flank is exploited my center half moves up to defend the cross and my anchor man drops deep creating a back 4 while my BtB and wb come back to defend, in attack i'm using a Target man that likes to press but ideally i'd like a deep lying forward that presses a lot so he can bring one of the center backs with him giving the IF space to run into i defend in a low block and depending on how tall my dlf is or if the opposition seems to not press as intensely i tone the directness down to mixed passing, i use a narrow shape as i want to concentrate most of my play in the middle exploiting the two man central midfield pairing individually the IF ideally roams around, the Btb moves into channels to create opportunitys for a one two and open up space for my playmaker to carve out a killer ball, my fb holds his position and my DLF and IF press high up the pitch in case the opposition seems to build from the back thoughts? DLFa IFs Ws BtBM APMa ACM WB(a) CD CD Fbs GK/SWKd
  11. http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/04/17/real-madrid-1-1-barcelona-tactics/ sorry it looks like i misremembered the details from this article yes, having an anchor man who holds the horizontal channel between the back 4 and the two central midfielders can effectively shut down the space available to a false nine
  12. mourinho combated the use of messi as a false nine just by having pepedive into tackles and acting as a destroyer to him, basically man marking him
  13. long balls practically cured geggen pressing, this is what happened in klopps final season in the bundesliga, more teams effectively just hoofed the ball upfield bypassing the entire press, since dortmund weren't used to breaking defenses down at that point they couldn't score and lost a lot of games that way
  14. teams are generally stronger at home, if your home form is impeccable you might want to take the mourinho route and go for draws and counter attacks away from home, and the lesser sides should be no problem as their defenses are typically too weak to resist your superior attacking threats so you can nick 1-0 wins that way
  15. wouldn't the lower tempo be counter productive if i'm looking for fast transitions from defense to attack? and i read that playmakers can be counterproductive to counter attacks because they can slow down the pace of the game which again would slow down the transition thank you, that was very useful
  16. in the first formation, those are one too many attack duties i'd think, normally you'd play with a higher tempo and you'd have less ball control, which means the opposition would have space to attack and be on the "front foot" so to speak, having too many attacking players would make it easier for the opposition to exploit in behind, when trying to play a high tempo game i'd prefer to sit deep instead of commit men higher up forward because i could lose the ball more readily. would you like to play direct and solid like mourinhos chelsea?
  17. so a bit of a backstory, i've been reading articles on counter attacking and fast paced football, my side is augsburg and we're relegation candidates for the bundesliga so there is presumably not a lot of technical quality available, so i've wanted to create a tactic primarily reliant on pace, strength and ruthless german efficiency, and considering that most bundesliga sides seem to employ a 4-4-1-1 or a 4-4-2 i'll do what mister mourinho did and play a 3 man midfield when he first came to england (i've taken a lot of inspiration from his chelsea side as you will see) this is how my side lines up Gk FB CD CD FB DM(AM) CM(attack) DLP(?) IF(a) DLS(CF) IF(a) now my concern is, i want to create a link between the central midfielder that likes to roam around and attack and the defence, i've thought maybe i could use Deep lying playmaker but i don't want him to slow down the play and carefully pick out passes, i want quick and fast direct transitions from back to front as we're on the counter as we use our strength and pace and hopefully break through their 2 man midfield would it just be better to use central midfielder on support who takes more risks when passing the ball? that was the main issue, any other tweaks would be appreciated, i'm not too sure about this tactic as i feel as though it can leave me vulnerable to counter attacks as my fullbacks will be further up the pitch on counter attacks and i could falter to a counter myself
  18. so i've been implementing a 4-3-1-2 (with one of my forwards playing as an IF), the shape resembles that of a 4-4-2 diamond, i've thought about switching my fullbacks to wingbacks as i think they play more vertically, but how would it affect my play? would i be more defensively prone in wide areas?
  19. this is just somewhere i'll use to ramble on about tactics and my team in general, i'm not sure who i'll be managing next, i've managed to get crotone to win serie B and stay up in serie A but i would like to try my hand at a different league and start afresh, hopefully the Portuguese league, where winning silverware is easier and also because the manager i like most made his name there (mourinho) you'll see me taking a lot of inspiration from him in terms of tactics now here is the general idea for my team next season, i want to use a 4-3-1-2 (4-4-2 narrow in FM terms) , the reasoning being it narrows down the field and i can use 4 bands, 7 players of mine can help in defence while the front 3 can do their own duties in terms of attack, so you can see i want to implement a structured mentality now, i also need to know what strategic aims i can achieve with a 4-3-1-2, we have 4 central midfield players (count the attacking playmaker in) , rather than the normal 2/3 which should give me a stronghold in the center, so i should focus my play around ball retention, i have two strikers, i have an idea of one these being the one that disrupts the defensive shape and the other that drives in and takes advantage of that disruption and space, so a tall strong targetman perhaps who i can even launch longballs into, one of my midfielders needs to link the defensive midfield to the attacking playmaker when they have the ball i'll add on this later
  20. do you use the 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 for more counterattacking systems?
  21. when klopp first took over liverpool and they tried their pressing game, teams found a way to simply bypass the press by playing longballs forward, imagine a 4 man pressgang coming towards your defence and they just lobbed the ball forwards, not only do you complete the defensive function you also have to deal with 4 less men when you counter attack, so perhaps you should try playing more direct
  22. https://footballmanageranalysis.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/mechanising-the-play-using-the-enganche/ i was surfing through the web for the enganche, and found this to be sort of relevant, i just wanted to share since it had some relevance https://strikerless.com/2015/03/23/mechanising-the-play-the-defensive-enganche/ this was also quite interesting
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