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  1. Firstly thanks for your opinion and ideas. I try watching full games and analyse/twerk what´s went wrong and what could be done better. After this my tactics looks - Lots of support duties and fluid team - so players are closer together . Sometimes I change LCB to BPD when needed. Fullback on the left is on attack to run from deep to attract some interest from opposition and create space for LCM (take fewer risk, tackle harder and hold position PI - wanted him as a controller in the middle and cover for my left side). Fullback has got PI "take fewer risk" because when he is on attack he attemp a lot of dribbles and lost a lot of balls. DLFs upfront on the left is role that I am not really sure about is - I wanted someone to act as a second striker. On the right side is Full back on support with PI "Get further forward" and RCM is Btb - these two could combine together and with F9 upfront they could interchagne positions between them and still be solid in defence. In middle is DLP on defence - I want here player which will act as a "metronome" - get passes from CBs to bait opponent to come high to the pitch and try to press our build up. This is the role I am thinking about to change it to CM on defense to have central pivot - DLP still moves to the sides. AM on support has PI of "Close down more", "Tackle harder", "Move in to the channels" "Dribble more". This PI are because I want him to be in halfspaces and force opposition to press him - possible of creating holes. I changed Wingbacks to Fullback because WB goes up too early when I am trying to force opposition to high press I don´t have wide players - so opposition has easier job to press us. Fullbacks goes up later and are useful to create overload in ou buildup. As a TI I use "Much shorter passing" (sometimes change to "short" when opposition is pressing us high, to hit them on a counter), "Higher tempo" to pass faster, "Work ball into box" to keep ball and don´t rush decision in opponent half, "Focus play through the middle" because I´ve got overload middle and want movement exactly from there, "Wide width" because my formation is narrow by itself and want to create some space in the middle for my players. Counterpress is using because when I lost ball, I´ve got a lot of players around and opposition needs to act quickly to pass it to the wings where is harder to reach ball for me - this will be my next step, to create pressing paterns to force opponents play through the middle, where I´ve got numerical advantage. I don´t play on counter´s because my game is so often rushed and my aim is to attack in speed with short passes - something like a Napoli in real life under Napoli. Using Higher defensive line with more urgent pressing is to help press opposition and force them to mistakes. Ofside trap is there to help our defensive play so when opponent try to play long ball on 90% it is offside or my Sweeper keeper takes a free ball - yes sometimes it is clear goalscoring opportuninty but there is small risk/high reward situation for me.
  2. I try even "take fewer risks" but it didn´t help. AM (s) is there because I want to have someone who will connect midfield and attack and the game won´t be rushed through him like AP does. Try SS but this created hole because he attack too early, and don´t like Treq because I´ve got my front three with press more and tackle harder. Yes there is a problem with understanding this things. For me the "risky pas" is try to pass through the lines - BPD has that and is doing exactly this. The chance about pass being intercepted is high- so that is why it is risky.
  3. I called it "my version" because it isn´t try to replicated someone tactics (aka Sarriball). I want to play this formation and when I watchin styles I found that vertical tiki-taka is most interesting to me now. So I try to buy some players which could be good for this style (in my judgment), and I am also in love for bargain buys :-). I try to low LOE because I want to by compact in the middle so teams so often try long against me and Raya is pretty good in sweeping this balls (not everyone but a lot is succesfull). Regroup because when I counterpress with players season before I was too open everywhere - so try regroup and my front three has got more urgent pressing and tackle harder. But you´re right this could be one of the aspect which I could do better to help my tactics.
  4. Hello everyone. I am trying to implement my version of Vertical tiki-taka in 4-3-1-2 formation with Bolton Wanderers. Here is my tactics I don´t like my overall gameplay : 1- my game is too rushed (so often my CBs play long passes instead of playing short) 2- instead of playing short my players play long and lost a ball - maybe need more runners??? 3 - attacking trio is nowhere near good - maybe need better support for them?? (pass in to the space I think isn´t great for possesion game because players will go long instead short fast passing) 4 - how to setup fast, short vertical passes???? I found Rashidi´s old video about passing where I found that "shorter + faster tempo+ lower mentality is low risk vertical passing. 5- Roles combination. Is there someone who can help me???
  5. Could be Salah role Winger on attack???? Salah like to stretch defence, CM near to him underlap Salah (attack the channel) and then Salah drift inside. Is it possible to recreate this setup in FM???
  6. Thank you both for your opinions. I was going to use Rashidi´s opinions and change system to this My LB has PI to hit early crosses and RB to sit narrower. Front three have got PI to press more (left IF has got Get further forward too) - This is because I want to press defenders with my front three to force them kick the ball long, where my midfielders/defenders can win the ball back. I don´t create so many chances (about 2 half chances per game) and our games is about 1-2 goals. I am going to try analyse my faults or if it is because of wrong players for this system. BTW @Rashidi is somwhere your Phoenix system in video/text analyse? When I am looking on Youtube you often has got something like 4-3-1-2 - most similar was Red Pharaoh system with LFC for FM18. Thanks both for your help with tactics to completly lost gamer.
  7. After watching episodes about MIC (about 10 times) I am not sure if I am doing the overloading left side correctly, and I don´t know if the DLFa role is ideal to my tactics ( I am totally lost in players roles after reading so much articles) The idea for my game is overload the left side of the pitch with WBs, MEZs and IFs and with DLF on attack duty to create space for my right sided IFa to by main goalscorer. The question is - Is better to use Forward role with MIC instruction + is the BTB midfielder enough support from deep to my IFa? (I was trying to have CMa but it looks like they go to each other way). Can someone help me with explanation of tactics or tactical tweaks????
  8. I will try to get you my interpretation of Klopp´s Liverpool. Formation: 4-1-4-1DM Mentality: Standard (you can try positive, but some roles will need change a little bit) TI: Play out of defense, Play narrower, Lower tempo, Higher defensive line, Higher LOE, Offside trap, COUNTERPRESS, COUNTERATTACKS SKs - WBs, CDd, CDd, WBa - Dmd - CMa, APs - IFa, IFs - F9 (DLFs) SKs - sweep behind high line and help with creating from back (if you have GK with good passing) WBs - Create width down the right, crossing CDd - Great positioning, Jumping, Heading, Fast WBa - more offensive player to create width down the left and crossing DM- controller, deep passing option, first line of defence CMa - runner from deep to create openings in opposition defence. APs - your chief playmaker IFa - Salah. Fast, move inside, assist scoring - work as a CF wide when F9 is deeper, IFa attack through the middle (like switching position between Salah and Firmino) IFs - Mane. More creative inside forward, but can score a lot too. More forward runs PI is helpfull. Attack left channel F9 - Bobby. As a F9 can operate in golden zone during the transition and create opening for IFa in the middle to run. Sometimes can be change to DLFs (you will see in the game)
  9. You have all you need to have succesful tactics. In future you can upgrade it, thats true, but you have squad full of great players.. Just take a paper and try to draw tactics, movement ( in your ideas) and when you have idea, try to create it in game.
  10. Every player in PL can see a runs. Maybe not so far like for example De Bruyne, but if you have one CM on attack duty, they are close together to help each other. Issue could be your direct passing with positive mentality - the play is rushed and 4-1-4-1 is formation where the support from deep areas is key. If you want direct passing you need more players upfront and together - here is 4-2-3-1 better because is heavy formation and with your current TI could be great counterattacking strategy.
  11. What is lack of vision? In my opinion if you can learn him to play simple passes it can work. Especially with Lukaku - strong player who can hold ball. Striker with AM is different formation, it is Up to you which goals would you like. Maybe try 4-1-4-1 with DLF, Winger on attack (RW) - Wan Bissaka could be WBd. RCM - Pogba role and maybe Mezzala. LW inside forward support - Martial. LB could be wing back attack to provide width.
  12. I am in 5th season with HSV and Fiete Arp is great as DLFs (with two inside forwards), sometimes I switch him to F9 role which create space for my IFa to run direct to goal. If you don't want TM upfront I will try DLFs. Maybe try to learn PPM -Play simple passes to Lukaku.
  13. AF in 4-1-4-1 is problem, because there will be hole between your striker and central midfielders. One option is give one of your wingers AP role - this could help
  14. Geggenpress= countrepress There IS no way that Klopp or Guardiola use pressing for 90 minutes - when ball is lost, just countrepress for a few seconds. Yes it is possible have 4-2-3-1 to defend in 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2 but I think for that you need to have your wingers in support. In my opinion it is better to have starting formation (which is how your team look when defending) at 4-4-1-1 and modify it with player roles/duties
  15. Just tick a countrepress. In my opinion this is Guardiola's "6 second rule"
  16. I was thinking about it today. But i am not sure about positioning od Raumdeuter. Second problems are about my support to this player. I need adapt to get most from this man. He has ability to be best in the world.
  17. After playing 4 matches my Winger scored 4 goals which is great. But I am not really happy because when he is in the box so often it is from side - it is not great angle to score especially if you left footed. I will go and try to analyse where my issues are - creating chances, support or movement. For this moment here are my KEY players: Jens Ache - My MAN - Winger attack Thiago Almada - My own Kevin de Bruyne - Roaming playmaker (but didn´t start in this 4 games because of injury) Thanks for feedback.
  18. It's just theory on paper, I don't know if it work, I need to test it and twerk it. It's not definetly LFC tactics - only inspiration. Klopp is playing on lower mentality often this season to control ball and save energy. Last match was a lot about countrepress. "Lower tempo" is because my front three was so often isolated and cannot create chances and after reading @herne79 thread about possesion (great reading, thanks for it) I try it and results + game looks so better.
  19. I want to test it with my HSV team in 4th season. Screenshot od players will be when i came home from work. But tactics is similar to LFC but with another players.
  20. Hello everyone!! I want to create thread where everyone can better understand how can role works together and put your ideas what could be better and discuss about it. I am a big LFC fan and I like the role of Mo Salah as a wide forward from last season (or from last match against Bournemouth), so my priority will be create a tactics where a wideman is my primary goalscorer (not only goalscorer). I found some tactics explanation from match against Bournemouth here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/totalfootballanalysis.com/match-analysis/liverpool-bournemouth-premier-league-tactical-analysis-statistics/amp. My key goals for tactics would be - 1. Play from defense 2. High scoring possesion football 3. LW as my primary goalscorer As I want to play high scoring possesion I am thinking about POSITIVE mentality -why? (Because I believe that it brings shorter passing on defense -playing from defense, in attack it is with more risks than standard) Line-up : SKs - Wbs, CBd, CBd, FBs -DMd - RPMs, MEZs - IFs, Wa - CFs 4-1-2-2-1 (4-1-4-1 DM) Setup - GK - Sweeper support - i want to my GK as a Sweeper behind my high defensive line and be deepest passing option for my CBs. RB -Wingback support - more attacking than FB but still available for support teammates. Help to provide width at right CBs - two classic defenders to pass the ball from defense (due to high line I prefer to have one faster and one with great positioning) LB - fullback support - player who is more defensive than WB and protect the left flank due to the attacking player infront of him. Still available to pass from defense and midfield - helping with creating from back DM - Defensive midfielder defend - player who is first defender against counter attacks. In transition helping to create from the back/ deepest midfielder when attacking. I am not sure about this role, maybe can change to Halfback in future (often because opposition two striker formations) CMr - Roaming playmaker - this player is a heartbeat of a team, maybe best and most important in the squad. I want him to come deep to help with playing from the back, dribbling, playing one twos with teammates and creating holes in opposition formation with his movement/passing. CMl - Mezzala support - the most attacking player in my midlefield. I want him to operate in left halfspace to create space to my Winger and support him with through balls. RW- IFs - my inside forward which i want in right halfspace to either shoot from distance or play pass to my running winger/ Complete forward. LW - My man. Winger on attack. It's not traditional goalscoring role but I believe it is possible to create goalscorer from this position. My idea is that he is wide which stretch the defense and create space in channels (between FB and CB) for pass from either Mezzala or RPM and due to his pace, acceleration and off the ball he will use this space to score or assist. This role is twerked by PPMs. I want to Gets forward whenever possible, Drift inside with ball. CF - Complete forward support - This player is creator, supporter and scorer in one. I want him to roam around to recieve the pass or create holes in defense, support the another forwards (either with his movement or passing) and scores goals. Team instructions - Slower tempo Higher LOE Higher defensive line Countrepress This is my tactics theory, I would love opinions from another managers to better understand tactics.
  21. You are right. In FM19 the Raumdeuter doesn't have "stay narrow". I will try to setup my tactics to create scoring machine from my Raumdeuter.
  22. Thanks for All replies.. But doesn't have Raumdeuter PI "stay narrow"?? I will go a try a watch what happened
  23. Quick question - Can be Winger on attack your primary goalscorer?? Idea is that he stretch defence for himself and create gap between CB and FB, where he can run/pass can go for him. Example of front three - IFs - DLFa - Wa
  24. You have AF who is far from teammates to support, next you have DM in defense role and another CM in defensive role. In transition who is supporting the front three? Maybe lack off runner from deep
  25. I was thinking about Mezzala as a replacement to my CMa to create overload on the right and create 1on1 on the left flank ( open space for my IF). As a APa instead of CMa, I don't think that it is runner as CMa. Is it more creative role than runner from second wave isn't it?
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