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  1. In my experience 4-2-3-1 results in crowded places and rather bad defensive performance.
  2. Hello guys, I hope some of you can help me with this tactic. I want to play Gegenpress and fast attacking football nothing out of the ordinary. The type of goals/attack I envision are: Because of overload and combinations on the right side. That's why I chose a mezzala, inverted winger, and a wing-back for some width. Mez-A cause I think there needs some drive to the goals to create some chances. If the overload on the right side struggles or if the ball goes to Thiago he tries to create a threat with through balls or a cross to the left side, which is on full attack to use the spaces. Cm-U I see as a general help to give the midfield some stability but I also think a Box-Box could be better although I don't know what exactly differs those two. The DLF-U is used just as a link between attack and midfield either on the overload side or the left side. The next possibility for chances is made by playing overlaps or underlaps, depending on which side, to create dynamic football. In my mind, this tactic looks exactly like what I thought about but on the field shows me the reality. General lack of pass security which is understandable because I have high-tempo with rather direct passing but still from a side like Munich its confusing ( I guess the cause lies within the tactic). There isn't a useful overload they just push the ball around until they lose it or give it to Thiago who shows his occasional genius. The left side looks blank and uncreative. There isn't combination anywhere besides the occasional chance.
  3. Through the middle with nice build up. My Players look like they dont want to do anything while often getting overrun by the enemies.
  4. Ive played against 4-4-1-1 and although it wasnt a horrible performance it lacked the domination if bayern, so I changed the tempo up and at the second half it worked well but now its less of a possession tactic and more acounter tactic do you have a advice?
  5. i made some change and I would be interested if they make sense to you. I need someone one the front who also sometimes helps out so DFLsu to DFLa. I play coman on the right side as winger instead of Mueller. I move TQ to the right so Mez has some room to attack and more options to pass. DLFatt IFsu TQ Wingersu CMde MEZsu FBat CDde BPDde IWBde SKat
  6. The Half-Back forms with the two center back something similar as with 3 center backs but more like a triangle in which the halfback is the tip of the triangle and someone the players can pass to if they are under pressure. It should be a possession tactic, so low tempo. The F9 receives the ball and can pass it to the if through the defense, to the wingbacks and they cross in or give it back to midfield and they look for the same opportunities.
  7. My Vision is a 4-3-3 with one Defending Midfielder one central playmaker and one supporting midfielder who uses the free room. 2 Ifs that try to make a pass on the forward, the central midfielders or pass the overlapping wing-back who crosses in. The Ball should move from one If through the midfield to the other. I tried many formations and it never worked. I tried a Mezzala-u and an advancing playmaker-a with a halfback, 2If an F9 and two overlapping wingbacks but still no result.
  8. I would like to know how you would set them up. I tried to make my own it works better but still could be improved.
  9. I've read every tactic post I could find, tried to understand what the Creator meant but I can't create a tactic, not even simple ones, like the ones recommended if you want to start to make a new tactic: few Team Instructions, solid formations, and player roles, etc Nothing works. My Vision for the tactic isn't fulfilled, I don't have success and neither I create chances nor I can hold a defensive structure. I honestly try to understand Football Manager but every time I think I understood and try it in-game I get disappointed. The Team Instructions don't anything for me. If I change the width I don't see any change or with the passing. There is no positive outcome of what I have changed. I downloaded tactics that should work but they don't and that's also something I don't understand. I don't want to make tirade but it is so frustrating. I really want to like that game, hell I have 228 hours in Fm19 and didn't even finish ONE SINGLE SEASON, not even a half. I will show you my tactic but it isn't anything special. Tactic: (Ignore the players)
  10. Ok, I'm glad we could clarify this problem. I would prefer explanations rather than things I can copy&paste but I tried so hard and long (300hours without joy and success) that I believe I'm stupid for not understandings this game. For me, the tactics above are almost perfect but then I see what they look like in game and they contradict completely with my image. I looked at every source even simple one like https://medium.com/@v_maedhros/understanding-roles-in-football-manager-and-real-life-part-1-73054cfbb303.
  11. As I said I don't think that his answer is fine but this thread shouldn't be about his comment. I do have screenshots about how I imagine it to look like and the tactics itself and I'm asking for feedback on the tactic I've built. I've done it many times without stats and Experienced Defender even said that my Ti's are bad so you actually don't need the stats to give me feedback but if it helps I'm going to add some problems I saw.
  12. Maybe I misinterpreted but If I ask for advice instead of a bit of advice I read ,, And all this without even a mention of team instructions, which are only making things worse. '' then it seems to pretty unnecessary and a bit like ,,mocking''.
  13. Of course, the players aren't in their best roles because of my priority to show the tactic itself and not with the fitting players.
  14. The 4-3-3 should create possession but doesn't really work because my players lose the ball really quickly a.e because they shot long balls, furthermore, they can't get the opponents ball and because of these two, I have around 40% possession. I imagine them to play like that (I don't want to show how EVERY attack has to be but to show every possible move to achieve a goal) : The 4-2-3-1 should create a high pressing, attacking game but also doesn't work well. I don't even know what exactly doesn't work with this tactic either. The players look crunched together, lose the ball quickly, can't get through the defense.
  15. They didn't work like I expected maybe possession football isn't really manageable?
  16. Thank you very much these changes make sense and im going to try them.
  17. Hmm, I can view them. Maybe you scrolled to the left and the whole text got shifted. But if it still doesn't work I quoted them:
  18. First of all, the tactics are nothing special, but after a long experiment and trying it's the best thing I have managed to make so far. Although it works quite well, I have discovered weaknesses which solution you hopefully reveal to me. The 4-2-3-1Dm is excluded in the following statistics and charts as it has not been used yet. 4-2-3-1: Tactics: https://imgur.com/a/BxvYdIv My chances / opponents earned chances: https://imgur.com/a/vUUZvb5 Templates: https://imgur.com/a/fdWJ0i3 Goals: https://imgur.com/a/lXdLhaX To explain, the tactic is against more deep-seated teams or teams that are a bit more open but qualitatively too weak to be dangerous (Gladbach, Leverkusen ...), as they have the attacking midfielder as an additional man, who serves as a reference station and so the Torgefahr BEFORE the goal retains, he is himself very dangerous for goal. The wing defenders should be a bit more defensive, as the potential counterattack in this tactic is enormous, which is why they are full-back and wing defenders. The box-box player serves, so that movement and defensive help is there and the DLP-D is an insurance against counterattack. The inversive winger and the winger ensure that the opposing defense is stretched and thus gaps are created. In theory logically practical, there is still risk of countering. As you can see, the offensive is relatively good and defensively stable. The goals are also of a rather high quality. Now to the problems that I hope to get solved here. I understand that you can not score goals on the assembly line, but how can I manage to score with chances, as I often see players coming to a close in relatively good positions but not completing them. I regularly have 2-3 clear chances to score and 60% of shots in the 16ener, but the scoreboard shows me a 0-0, furthermore I notice that my flanks are always blocked. Whenever I play counterattack at higher speeds, my players lose the ball, and I'm a bit stubborn, because I have 8 good chances + 10 mediocre chances in some games and drive the opponent up the wall with offensive domination and in some cases almost nothing works and only counter-attacks were made. That's why I stick to the tactics at such moments, hoping they'll somehow click. Because of this problem, I have the 4-3-3 tactic: Tactics_2: https://imgur.com/a/5LmnvWG The wing is based on the same principle as the 4-2-3-1, but here the wing defenders may be more offensive because I have a dm. But this tactic is, as you can see in the pictures above, not much more stable, instead every 180min an opponent's chance only every 194min, but much less chances are played out. I guess here is the same thinking problem of mine as the 4-2-3-1 here, but the additional man is missing in the offensive and on the other hand I use the tactics against more difficult opponents. What would be the better way here: 1.Should I play safe possession, as the more offensive opponents have more gaps? How could I tweak it to deliver a more stable and offensive vision? (I know that being 'impossible' is a perfect attack AND defensive, but these tactics, I guess, have a lot of room for improvement in both aspects) 2. Or should I play counterattack, but how would I avoid constant ball loss? The last tactic should in my mind unite both pros of the 2 above listed tactics. https://imgur.com/a/ERWkZD9 Here the defensive is to be stabilized by 2 Dms, but by the OM also a working offensive will be maintained, because I still have not tried them I do not know how it works, but I am already looking forward to feedback. Unfortunately, I do not know what to do if I do not get enough chances with all of these tactics because I can not counter-counter-press and play fast. Bearbeiten
  19. Instructions: https://imgur.com/ORKfdi2 Formation: https://imgur.com/a/W0PaH Fixtures: https://imgur.com/a/WUa6p I have individual player instructions on both of my inverted wingers to leave their position in order to support my possession. All my defenders have low pressure, so they don't create holes. The season preparation started ok when you consider they have to learn a new tactic and with the highlights against Madrid and Barcelona it started to go up because I dominated them pretty much but against Dortmund, a team that plays also Possession like the former enemies, I got dominated and I simply don't know why. Maybe to understand my concerns better I have to say I've started many saves and each with a different tactic and it followed the same line as here: good preparation and domination against Barca and Madrid but then a harsh decline against Dortmund and from this point it gets hard in the league( considering Bayern expectations ). That's, why I would like to get your honest feedback on this tactic and I, know that the high defensive will create trouble but I will change it into consideration with my next enemy.
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