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    What, if anything, does 'Team Fluidity' do?

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Creazymanager said:

     

    we always talk about fluidity in reference to the ball possession phase, but I wonder if it also affects the non-possession phase, for example with more fluidity is it more likely that a player will cover the position of his teammate who is out of position?

    considering then that all team and player instructions related to fluidity are found in the ball possession department

    More discipline - creativity (team possession)
    Hold position - freedom of movement (when team has the ball)

    Sorry to be that guy but read the post above yours…..

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    4-2-3-1 DM AM Wide - German Efficiency Meets Beautiful Football

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

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    11 minutes ago, bababooey said:

    The "4-2-3-1 DM AM Wide" (referred to in the rest of this post as a 4-2-3-1) is one of my favorite formations because of its ruthless efficiency and ability to dominate matches in multiple ways.

    The goal of this post is to show you how to create a 4-2-3-1 that will, hopefully, produce football that is both efficient and pleasing to the eye. Let's go!

     

    Base Shape

    This is the starting point. Where we will end up is going to look quite different.

    It's important to understand the shapes you use in football. So what is there to know about this shape?

    The 4-2-3-1 excels at many things, but perhaps the biggest thing is how it has players positioned in the midfield, set up for both pressing high, and keeping possession.

    As you can see, there's a group of 4 players that can all easily begin to press the opposition, but also cut out passing lanes.

    Then you have the 6 players behind them, creating a really solid base to launch attacks, recycle possession, etc.

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    HOWEVER....

    A 6-4 split is not what I want.  I want to see 5 players "behind the ball" and 5 players "ahead of the ball."

    This is better.  This is what I want to see.  A 5-5 split where you've got one of the DM's, in this case, a segundo volante, joining the other group.

    This is positional play at work. The DM role rotates up into the attacking midfield strata, while the libero rotates up into the defensive midfield strata.

    We should also note, the #6 will shift over a bit to form a double pivot with the libero, while the #7 does the same to form a partnership with the segundo volante.

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    Now look at all those passing triangle possibilities!

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    Clearly, the 4-2-3-1, when moving into the attacking phase like this, creates an insane amount of passing options. It also gives you the much sought-after "square" in central midfield, between the DM's and the AMC's.

    Let's look at how this plays out against another team, so we can see the type of plan we want to put together on top of the shape we've chosen.

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    In this diagram, you're seeing the base shape of a 4-2-3-1 lined up with the base shape of a 4-3-3.  Take note of the 5 channels / spaces that I've highlighted here.

    Our plan should be to attack those spaces. This is how you get a defense to break down. I dont want to get too deep into theory or stuff like that. But you can easily find that type of info in books like "Inverting the Pyramid" or just by going on to YouTube and searching for tactical theory.

    Anyway. To execute this plan, you don't need to have a player literally attack each zone. Sometimes, it's good enough to have a player simply occupy a space!

    This is (partly) why the 4-2-3-1 is so effective, because of how it attempts to control SPACE.

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    Okay so, I've done some additional highlighting and I want to explain my thinking here.

    I've created 3 different bases: red, yellow, and blue.  Think of them as groups of players who have different tasks. They have to work together to accomplish their task.

    The blue base is our "forward base" where want to support our attacks from at the highest possible position on the pitch.  They're also our first line of defense.  They need to occupy passing lanes, close down the opposition, and win the ball back up high.

    The yellow base is our second line of protection against the counter, and the red base is obviously the last line (not counting the goalkeeper who is always last anyway).

    If play breaks down, we can easily recycle the ball in the red + yellow bases. 

    But we left two outfield players out of those groups?

    I purposely left out the left winger and striker in this example, because I want those players to be our main goalscorers. They will obviously contribute to the other areas, but less so than their teammates.

    Will this be too few attackers? Well, maybe.  It's entirely reasonable to think that we could move someone from that blue base into attack to join the others. Maybe one of the AMC's should be looking to get forward more, driving past the striker and stretching the lines.  Maybe.    But for now, I think we can still score a lot of goals without doing that.

    How does this look in the game? Here's a first draft:

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    Again, this is a rough first draft, and it's sort of tailored to the team I'm managing (Bayern).

    I've added some red arrows here to show where I want to see players going (and where I think they will go).

    As you can see, the volante rotates up, the libero also rotates up, and it SHOULD result in us having a nice, 5-5 split as you see in the 2nd diagram of this post.

    This system is brand new, because in the first season at Bayern I used a 4-3-3 similar to what Guardiola does with Man City.

    We're now headed into the offseason, and I will update this post when we start playing matches again, to test out this system, and see what we need to change/tweak. So I'll reserve a spot or two beneath this.

    Hopefully this thread will help some people create a 4-2-3-1 (or any tactic, really) that brings them some joy and success!

    Really looking forward to updates to this, excellent opening post

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    Data Hub Analysis

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Cloud9 said:

    I am probably more conservative in my approach to the game, but I could never justify running more than a WB(a) + WB(s). Having two players drive to the byline always feels like you're leaving big gaps at the back. 

    Even with both wing backs flying forward you can still keep 4/5 players back covering.

    A lot of the time they don’t seem to fly forward at the same time anyway, 

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