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  1. OK, I have so far seen 6 missed pens in Northern Ireland on my save. 1 missed in a league game, the other 5 have been missed in PSO's in various cup comps. However the same is happening: The missed penalties are being blasted down the middle and the keeper palms it away. I have not seen any pens shot wide, over, against the wood(dont get me started there ) or placed in the corner and the keeper diving to save it. Id be interested to hear if anyone has seen realistic pen misses and if so: what league/competition?
  2. Im aware of the Liverpool situation last year. Apparently they have hit the wood 19 times this season too? A bit freakish though. It all still just grates on me and doesnt seem right. Every game to have a shot clunking off the wood. I always said that 0.1 per game was right from my experience but obviously the stats prove otherwise and maybe need to re-think my opinion on it. I mention the league specific because a lot of obscure leagues have not been updated in depth for a number of years in terms of players. Apparently there was a guy from Sweden saying that the Swedish leagues had been untouched for a while and players were at the wrong club and that he had even found 3 dead players!!! Some players in NI dont even have positions defined and are randomly assigned one to fill in gaps in the default squad. This all leaves me wondering about the amount of randomisation in obscure leagues and whether the high wood ratio has anything to do with it?
  3. i looked at all my league games. Match 1: Us: x times - AI x times - Overall x times Match 2 etc....
  4. OK, Im not back to argue! Ive been looking more at this. On OptaJoes Facebook page he mentioned that last season in the PL there were 265 woods in the 380 games = 0.69/0.7 per game. OK the stat is correct. I looked at a full round of prem games on my save and there were 7 woods in the 10 games, one game had 4. 0.7 per game Looked at 20 recent games from the Skrill South and it was 0.75 per game, NI Championship 2 it was 0.8 per game. The league wood stats from my league games is overall 1.00 per game(across 18). 0.611 per game from my team and 0.389 per game from the AI. 1 per game is still way too high so I do wonder if it a league issue? might not be. The PL stat seems to be accurate in Feb 14 so I dont think that a few seasons are needed to see this properly. Some leagues seem a bit out. Like I said: Im not looking to argue. Is it poss that it could be league specific? If I see no more woods in my 12 remaining league games it will average about 0.775
  5. What like too many woods per game that loads of people are complaining about, and that ruins the realism of the ME?
  6. So why are they saying that no more patches/fixes will be released then?
  7. EXACTLY!! Well put I bet these soak tests basically involve holidaying through 30-odd seasons > comparing the FM stats to real life > "....... errrrr thats about right...release it". What CityAndColour is saying is spot on. I wonder how much testing involves looking at the effect of these stats in the ME itself and whether it looks realistic. Im not going to have it from any Mod or member of the testing team! I have been watching football for 25yrs and what Im seeing in regards to the amount of woods per game is not right! However I do need to backup on the long shots thing. Again i looked at the analysis for the types of goals. 25 games, 87 goals scored overall by both me and the AI, 13 of them from outside the area. 0.149 per game which probably is about right. One last thing: yes 25 games isn't a lot, but the averages shoudlnt be that much different compared to 250 matches or 2500. Yes the less games played the more inaccurate, but not by a lot. 28 wood in 25 games. Poor form
  8. I say this because I felt that woods in Fm12 were as close to spot-on as possible in my experience. I dont feel that here, it feels way too high. Can you tell me where I can find these stats that this is all being programmed from?
  9. I thought I would make a point of this, cos woodwork incidents are beyond boring now. I decided to gather some data from 25 competitive matches in the Northern Irish 3rd tier and various cups against all kinds of teams in that country. My findings: - Human team: 18 woods in 25 = 0.72 per match - AI teams: 10 woods in 25 = 0.4 per match - Overall: 28 woods in 25 matches = 1.12 per match!!! Incredible! - 2 matches with 4 woods - 1 match with 3 woods - 3 matches with 2 woods - 8 matches with 1 wood - 9 matches with 0 woods I really doubt that these stats are true to life. I'd even bet money if i was a gambler. All we keep hearing is that "it wont be fixed" or "no more patches" etc. Well why? Just make the shots go over or wide? It doesnt make it totally unplayable but it is so annoying! The problem is that is doesnt give an accurate representation(compared to real life) of how effective the chances are that you're creating, how accurate the shooting is etc. It just feels like another tactic to keep the scores down like super-keepers or CCC's/one-on-ones being shot straight at the keeper. This was never a problem on finished ME's in previous FM's, at least not the ones I played anyway. Also have a good feeling that 95% of the goals i see from my team and the AI are all from inside the area. If not its a free-kick from the edge of the area. No Steven Gerrard "Kop screamers" on here.
  10. I have now played into Nov 13 with Chimney Corner on my 14.3 save and must say the whole game and especially the ME are superb. Not really seen any bugs outside the ME but they could pop up as the save progresses. Just have to live with them if they do. I do however have 2 gripes: 1.) Injuries: Getting one every game pretty much. It could be because I have semi-pro/intermediate players whos conditioning wont be the same as pro players so they will be more injury prone, but its getting annoying. 2.) Major gripe is with woodworks. A stat was mentioned recently about 0.7 woods per game on average IRL. I personally think that is utter garbage and I don't care where its from, even Opta. I have been watching football for 25yrs and not just the football at the time. Also watched vids of football from the 60's, 70's and 80's from all over the world. The game is always changing but woodwork occurence is not going to change with it. Its probably the same now as it was in the 1920's. In my experience I will guess at woodwork regularity: **EDITED** Match with 1 wood: 1 every 10 games, but as frequently as 1 in 7/8 at a push Match with 2 woods: 1 every 125 games Match with 3 woods: 1 every 1500 games or 4/5 seasons roughly Match with 4 woods or more: 1 in a lifetime/career if you're lucky! I wonder if Ferguson ever saw a 4-wood game in his long career? I do remember a PL game years ago between Fulham and WBA where Fulham hit the post and bar about 4/5 times. Never seen that many in one game before or since. How hard would this be to just make these "woodwork shots" go wide or over? Other than that its a 9/10 game. Just fix these if they are broken and you are on your way to a masterpiece.
  11. A kindred spirit!! I actually need to change my tune completely. This is the best ME SI has ever made by a light year. Not seen anything wrong with it so far(on full game) but its early days. Wingers now working beautifully, sprinting down the line with the ball and crossing! DLF dropping right into the midfield to link up the MF and attack. I need to try my preferred 433 shape with 3 strikers and the 2 wide ones dropping off wide. If that works then I'm in heaven! I never played full game for about 3 months so I've been using FMC for the most part. There is something wrong with the ME on FMC on my installation but it is not important to me anymore, but may be to someone else. Because I fired full game up fresh for the first time in 3 months, that may be why the ME is so different on it. Either way I'm gonna settle down with 14 now and play a long career. If I buy it again it will be 16 at the earliest.
  12. One thing I forgot to mention yesterday was that I played on Classic mode. Today I have started another save on full game and the ME is incredible!!! What is going on here? My 442 worked a treat, wingers played like wingers and it was brilliant. That was only the first friendly. The ME on FMC was utter garbage and it looked all over the place. Looks like I'm a happy bunny after all. I had been told the full game ME was superb after the update and its true. FMC ME... well I dont know whats going on there
  13. Hi Tony, Interesting. Im going to give it all another go today, I was a bit tired during those rants last night so forgiveness is begged!!! It could very well be the level I'm playing at as well like the other comment stated. Do I start with a blank 442 and no instructions at all? or give the team and players a fair few specific ones?
  14. Hi Tony, Chimney Corner, NI Div 2(3rd tier). Wingers bug me the most on this ME and they did on 13(what i played of it). To my eyes they dont act like wingers. Wide passing options and Inside forwards is what I see. Teams at that level and lower levels in England IRL will play 4-4-2 with wingers, target man etc. Basic, direct, English football. They dont have the skill to play complicated 4-3-3 or 3-at-the-back or diamond shapes. I always read in LLM guides "Keep it simple" and thats what i try to do. Its not paying off. Maybe it is just me, and the fact that I am in the habit of nitpicking. Days gone-by I used to just enjoy the game but I'm questioning everything now. "Is that goal a bug or exploit", "Is that meant to happen", "Is that realistic" I mention 12 because Ive played that one the most. If you play a wide formation: You have width. If you play a narrow formation: its all got to go through the middle. If you set a ML/AML as a winger, then the run at FB's, try to get to the byline, try to cross from wide etc. It just works! for teams at all levels. This doesn't. Im talking generally because you can go so deep into this it would take me ages to co-operate. My rumblings are general, the whole feel of it. Not a certain dozen movements or patterns of play etc. Sorry for the ambiguity.
  15. Hi Adam Yes it does say 14.3 so it has updated. I had a slanging match a couple of weeks ago on here and dont intend to start another one, but I just think this ME is atrocious. I couldnt wait to turn it off. In answer to Surfers comment: I assume you play as Manchester or Newcastle Unted? Fine, you and everyone else can play as whoever you want. But I have always had this feeling that the modern ME is built for teams in the PL, La Liga, Serie A and of course the precious Champions League. Teams in the lower countries and leagues are just left in the lurch. I mean the lower tiers of Sweden, NI, ROI, Wales, England, Italy and Spain as well and elsewhere in between. Them teams dont play the 4-5-1 slick passing game that the top teams do. Fine a lot of people like to play as these teams but a fair few of us like to start low down. These players are just not convincing at all on this ME. Oh...... and please do not say "Its your tactics", I know how to set team and player instructions up. Im not necessarily losing matches, results are not the problem. It just does not look convincing. If this is the final ME version then its bye-bye 14, back to 12. My question has been answered and Ive had my say so this can be closed if you wish admins.
  16. On older patches I have played a fair few matches but never took it seriously. Yesterday when 14.3 came out I started a brand new save as I usually do this time of year. However I'm still seeing some of the same old stuff from previous patches: - no urgency in the play & players dithering on the ball - wingers still reluctant to run at FB's - doubling up on wingers still happens occasionally - woods are still floating around a bit too much - there are a few more I'm sure but not that obvious My question is that with a new patch: are the ME updates instanly shown in the game? or does it take time to flush the cache out? Is the ME cache'd? If so then mine will obviously need some time to settle down.
  17. Looks like you were dead unlucky. That is always the problem with groups of 3 playing each other once, there are only 3 matches so it is more than possible this sort of thing can happen. You would think IRL there is a fourth tiebreaker(maybe league position from the previous season, as these groups are played at the start of the season). FIFA did groups of 3 at the '82 World Cup. Dont think there were any problems, but I'm sure they realised problems could arise with no fair way of settling a tie. Thats prob why FIFA or UEFA dont use groups of 3 anymore? Anyway... Bad Luck
  18. From FM12 comes a real legend! SHAG JOHNSON! Always made me chuckle. He used to come and watch one of my regens at Gillingham: Bobby Sancho. Thats how I knew of him
  19. You dont know what "Always got to have the last word" means? Whatever! I've had my say now, im leaving it at that. Lets see if other sarcastics are big enough to do the same!
  20. ADMIN: please close this thread. Pointless keeping it open.
  21. Im sorry but all I asked was when the data lock was, NOT when the patch comes out. I know the answer to the latter. At least we would know when to roughly expect it based on the data-lock. READ WHAT I SAY!
  22. Acutally I admit...YOU ARE RIGHT!! I will, from now on, let you mugs pay to be bug testers for 4 1/2 months and do the grubby work while I pick it up dirt cheap after the final patch!!! Thanks for the recommendation!
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