Daniel.M

Just a little message to say that - whatever our feelings towards the new FMM - many of us are grateful that SI staff like @Marc Vaughan reply on these forums and give more details / explanation. It is helpful + I’ll post screenshots of those 3x Marc posts above onto Vibe + the discord, pointing those people this way.

Quick update on the sentiment from the FM Mobile & Touch Discord … as it’s been open for a day (~24 hours) now … - approx. 90 replies in one day - approx. 60% have Netflix - approx. 90% believe this is negative for the game* *of course this is based on the info available, before future SI blogs / further communications. As a comparison with the Vibe community poll: - also approx. 90 responses so far - approx 35% have Netflix access (vs 60% on discord*) - same +95% stat as before - of those with no Netflix access now, +95% wont get Netflix to get FMM24. * note there is some membership overlap between Discord + Vibe, but as this shows, not that much. Hope this helps in some way

You are likely right. Evidence - a quick poll on Vibe suggests +95% (49 of 51 so far) of engaged FMM community players who do NOT have Netflix access will not subscribe to Netflix to get FMM24. Disclaimers: - this is just a relatively simple poll. - this is only 80 responses (but in <2 days). - people may change their mind. - this has some bias. But still is helpful for understanding current sentiment.

It’s great that people are sharing their stories + views 👍 Personally I’m quite ok to wait for this blog post / Q&A / further comms. to come out. While I’m ‘disappointed’ (understatement) at what the decision seems to be, I can wait a few weeks to learn more. Again there could be very good reasons why they can not communicate this asap: maybe a key leader is on leave / ill, maybe they are deliberately waiting to assess user sentiment on this decision so far (!), maybe they are waiting for a Netflix user research study results (?), or some technical details still need to be finalized, or need a joint communications working session with the Netflix team … … like most new corporate partnerships, it’s unlikely that any SI team member (Miles may be an exception) will completely open up their feelings / thoughts on this subject, they kind of need to wait for ‘management’ to agree + launch those comms first and be a little cautious about what they say. Only they (SI) will know why there needs time before more communications - so in the meantime I’m ok to continue discussing / sharing in places like this and continue playing the existing game we all love :-) DanEnglish

Good point. If the choice is between FMM with Netflix, or no FMM, then their decision is fully understandable. There may be other rationale which is also fully understandable (guaranteed income with Netflix vs more variable income previously? Piracy?) … … but doesn’t change that I won’t be buying the upcoming game - unless Netflix do ‘free’ / no-cost accounts? Lets see.

6 months late on replying to this - but thanks for making that fix. It was MUCH easier to retrain players when you changed that text around <thumbs up> thanks!

Dear Marc V., Miles and the SI team, If FMM24 will require a Netflix subscription, then regretfully I won’t be buying this years game :-( Why? As if you don’t have a Netflix account (like me) + have no intention of getting a Netflix account (I don’t watch TV / films, as I spend my limited free time on FMM) - then that requirement is quite … er … prohibitive … to getting this year’s new game. So what? For FMM22+23, I created content (team guides, tactical analysis, etc) + help new players on the Vibe website + the FMM discord. Of course am buying the editor as well. Seems I and perhaps some others won’t be able to do that this year. Why not buy the full version? Like many CM/FM veterans, I moved onto mobile as don’t have time for the full version (kids, wife, work). Like many others - I eagerly await any news / clarifications on this, and will continue to buy FMM if it’s available as before on the Apple store (without a subscription like Netflix). I’ll keep an eye on this just in case this has been a giant misunderstanding. Thanks for you hard work on FMM over the years, and I hope this is a ‘see you later’ rather than a ‘bye-bye’. DanEnglish

Hi @Marc Vaughan - any guidance on when this tweak will be released please? Why? As I’ve got a hotly requested “Guide to IFs, IWs, Wingers”” half written up for Vibe (with in-game screenshots, Gifs, etc) … but may be better to re-write it if the tweak will be released before / by the xmas holidays … No rush - but any guidance would be helpful for the community :-) thanks.