daniel700

Hi I have seen this issue seems to be ongoing the last years, but I cannot find any solutions. There are several threads where people have the issues, but no answers.. I took over individual training, but I would like to "give it back" to my assistant. I change the responsibilities in the staff menu, but he does not set any individual training for all players. If I try to change individual training for some players an option box pops up saying that Ass Man is responsible but ask if I wanna take control of players IT, just for a week or completely etc.. But on other players no IT is set and I can change it without that box coming up. It seems like if I once have taken control over a players IT, the Ass man would not take it back.. How do I solve this?

Thanks I just haven´t seen fatigue status other than "fresh" and "low" (yet) so I was unsure if low was as bad as it could be.. And thank you for the answers about different formations... Right now I have both two versions of 4-2-3-1 and a 4-5-1 so I will continue to rotate between these.

Thanks again Regarding rotating tactics: I prefer playing 4-2-3-1 (as the one you helped create) but the one working really fine right now is 4-5-1 (much more intense and fast). Is it "possible" to have different formations in the 3 tactics you are using? And does it matter (in the longer run) which tactic is trained most (number one slot)? I mean if the team over longer time will be familiar with all three version regardless which one is in which slot.. if it makes sense?? Regarding fatigue: I have it in in danish but there only seem to be either "Fresh" and "low" but both are green.. can this be "red" as well and what will it say then? I have "reds" in both match load (hard) and injury risk (high) but that also makes sense.. I dont understand fatigue when it is fresh and low.. I rest players in red of course.. The morale seems fine, but I can do more regarding praise training.. and maybe a little more and good match stats.. the "rule" over/below 7 seems as a good starting point.. I will look into that..

Thanks again. I have no doubt that it is me who struggle to fully understand everything. The tactic you helped me with worked well right away, but when problems arrive, they seems to arrive quickly and hard.. meaning that the team can go from playing fine or even good against a top team away from home to being dominated at home by the button team.. As i mentioned I was hitting a bad form and were facing Bayern away.. I went online once again and found a thread about beating Liverpool (ended there as I searched for advice to beat/survive high tempo pressing teams) and I adopted a lot of the advices even thou it meant changing my entire tactic.. But desperate times.. It was a high tempo, high pressure, counter press, counter, wide attacking etc.. I was not the way I wanted to play as we discussed in earlier posts, but again, I was getting desperate.. That gave me a 4-1 victory and after that, 4-0 against Man City, 3-0 agains Villa and then the "magic" wore off again.. It is NOT that I would like to win everything or even almost everything.. I just dont get that changing tactic suddenly can have that effect if the tactic is far from what the players use to play.. To me it feels like they get worse week by week when I change tactic.. Just to clarify, I dont claim that changing tactic like I have done is the right way and I am sure you are right.. The problem is that when I go from playing really well for some time to suddenly being in matches without being able to create a single chance while the opponent create chance after chance and perhaps getting 1 or 2 goals I have no idea what to do.. The off field stuff I agree is really important and I try to rotate and dont use players in poor form.. I praise them and in this save everyone actually seems fine. But that is excatly the reason I am afraid of hitting a long losing streak as this alone can lead to poor morale..

Thanks a lot, but I had to abandon the above approach again after some time.. The team went from playing well the next 4-5 matches or so, to not being able to perform the easiest passes and playing like they had never met each other before.. that, and the fact that the ME/AI or whatever started to pull me apart.. low as top team, home and away.. This is perhaps the biggest reason creating my own tactics (with help from others of course) is really frustrating.. I appreciate every single advice and the fact that other people like you and cloud9 takes time to answer and guide. I just find it hard and frustrating that I always have to tweak and tweak and tweak the tactics to maintain just some stability.. but thats just me.. I went on with another tactic which again worked very well.. for some time.. and now I am using another which again had been fine but again seems to be losing its strength.. I am sure that theres is an explanation to everything, but is it not as funny constant looking through threads, guides and forums to figure out what to do next, as it is playing the game itself.. hopefully my next tweak will do the trick :-) or the next one..

Thanks again for another great explanation and for you taking your time. It all makes sense and the tactic seems really good. Just the way I imagined it but what I could not figure out myself. So thanks for that again. There are some minor tweaks I will try out and of course changes during different matches. I have won and lost already but I am satisfied with what I have been seeing. I am not being pulled apart and I am not on the edge throughout the entire match as I were before. I had a feeling that it all could collapse at any moment even if I were ahead. I will rather lose or draw a match which I feel I should have won rather than being dominated and then get a lucky shot and steal the victory like that. The latter might feel great in the moment but on long term that wont stand. This tactic seems to be more solid and as the players get more use to it I guess it will only be even better. The players does not seems to be worn out as much either which I guess is due to the lower overall intensity. Hopefully that as well will be beneficial in the long run as well. Not any questions for now, but just an update and a thank.

Wow.. thank you ever so much for all the time you took to answer me :-) I was getting mixed results and still trying to implement some of the former suggestions. I would really like to understand why and when to use specific instructions rather than just try and error without understand why. This and your former answers gives me that. It makes sense (on paper at least) so now I will see how it plays out :-) The learning curve is quite steep as I am already in season with tough games coming up. About width: As I understand what you write, defensive width is actually the attacking width option which should be set to narrow if you want to be more compact in defence as well. The option to force opponents outside is another thing? Just to be sure. I my case with Man Utd I have relatively fast players I could utilize using width in attack but if I would like to stay compact in defence I rather choose narrow or fairly narrow? Depending on the situation of course but I cant do both.. About Shaw: I like the IFB role but his traits seems to be countering the point of the role: Run with ball along left flank, goes forward as soon as opportunity arrives and avoid using his weak leg.. Will his role (IFB) or his player traits dominate if it makes sense? Or will it just make him even more mobile? His best suited role in the game is also IWB so I am just wondering.. Thanks again :-)

Thank you very much for taking your time. I will read through the thread as well. I do just have a few questions for now. I agree with it being risky leaving the defensive clean up to Eriksen, but I use him as a Deep laying playmaker (s). I dont consider Casimiro as an playmaker (even thou his attributes are fine actually) so would you change the role as well? Like DM (s), DM (d) or even anchor? I received an offer for McT so he is already off, but could use Amrabat, Mount or Mainoo as SV instead i guess.. Edit: Forgot to ask.. If I change the two DM´s as written above (e.g. DM (d) and SV (s) )would you advice making the AM into playmaker instead? And another question is regarding tempo and directness.. for now I have much shorter passing and slightly lower tempo.. I am having trouble finding out theese but as I understand tempo is the urgency of moving the ball forward? I translate that into that very low tempo wont create many chances as combined with shorter passing, the team will hold on to the ball but not necessary playing it forward.. thats the reason I choose slightly lower tempo as I wont rush but I will still want the players in possession to look for opportunities ahead.. could I raise the tempo to normal and still keep passing very short or would that be wrong? This only if I feel in control and want the team to take slightly more risks and attack more? Hope it makes sense.. And this: If you feel like you're getting played through too easily on turnovers, reducing your width can help. For difficult games (like vs Man city) dropping to a mid block and playing a more conservative pivot should be fine. Is it attacking or defensive width? or both?? If its defensive does it mean using force opponent outside? Again, thanks and I will look into the thread and the advices you have already provided.

I tried the FB´s and changed the DM to defence. It started up as a nightmare as Man C just penetrated at will but slowly I came back and ended up winning.. did only change mid second half when ass manager suggested to add early crosses and floating crosses.. I will happily translate PI´s and roles if necessary.. Dont know if I were just lucky.. they came close a few times as they pushed forward i the end.. It did not seem like I was so solid that I could hold them off..

Thanks. which side do you use the roles? Is it: DM (d). DLP (s) FB (s). FB (a) What about passing directness and tempo? And the lines (Defensive and LOE)

Hi I am playing as Man Utd and trying to build a tactic. I have tried a few times this year already but ended up both times almost got sacked and therefore I have started over. I tried a 4-5-1 in my former save but I would like to use a 4-2-3-1 despite the other might be more solid. I would like the team to be fairly solid in defence and not giving too many chances away. When in possession I would like to hold on to the ball and not rush forward. Move the ball around but still look for space up fromt to explore and hopefully create some chances. I dont wanna sit back and just kick long balls forward. I tried to implement some of your ideas, but theres is obviously still something wrong :-) Started up winning home against Bournemouth 4-1 and did not give away too many ccc and while I had quite a few. Next match was Chelsea away and I managed to draw 1-1. Then Tottenham came and pulled me apart. Lost 5-2.. They were playing fast and ran through my defensive lines. I tried to change to a more direct play, lowered the lines, let the fromt 5 press harder etc but I think I just made everything even worse and in the end I did not even know if any of the changes did anything good and which did not :-) This is also the most challenging part for me when creating tactics.. I can see what seems to be wrong (e.g. cant keep possession, long balls behind my defensive lines, not enough forward movement etc.) but I dont know exactly what to change. My tactic is in danish, but I have translated the roles and TI´s. Positive mentality Ti´s: Pass into space, Play out of defence, slightly lower tempo, fairly wide Short kicks (form keeper), Distribute to CD and FB Middle LOE, More urgent Roles: DLF (a) IF (s). AM (s). W (a) DLP (s), SV (s) WB (s), CD (d), CD (d), WB (d) SK (s) I guess my question is how do I make the team more solid defensive without just sitting back? I would like the team to build up slowly but still with attacking in mind so to speak. But I would like the attacking part left to the front 4 with some support from the LWB and the SV in moments. I noticed that even when my Def line is standard the defenders went far up when in possession which left the team open behind and everybody had to rush back instead of staying back. I dont want everyone to move forward. I hope it all makes sense :-) Edited as I missed something: I would like us to be more solid in defence especially when up against the big teams or away from home. If the opponent are sitting back or if everything seems fine I would like to be more attacking. So guess what I missed was, asking what to change if I need to be more solid and if I need to be more attacking without changing mentality and tweak too many things? As I understand mentality should not be changed if possible and to make good tactical knowledge you should not change too many instructions during games either?

Thanks to everyone who took their time. I will try to implement some of it and see how it goes.

Thanks to both of you @Etebaer and @saware. As I wrote I have been struggling a lot with tactics every year, and I still try to understand what different instructions actually means :-) Therefore I will take your advices into account and try to figure out what to change and what to keep. As I mentioned the above tactics is done with the help on "rate my tactic" and they should be fine :-) however, they are not as good as I wish.. Especially against high pressing opponents or top teams.. I know Man utd is no longer the club it used to be, but I expect some kind of stability throughout the season and only struggle against the top 4-5 teams.. Now I can win against Liverpool and loose against Bournemouth (no offence) but the point is that I always find the matches on the edge and never feel really comfortably during matches.. But my choices are based on some ideas and checked with rate my tactic. I am not against changing something or everything for that matter, I just need to understand why and when which is why I need to test your advices "step by step" wise..

I find it kinda hit or miss at the moment even thou it might be a little more stable since I posted the above.. Its like all opponents have like a "second gear" so they are able to dominate me and my players are just chasing around without getting the ball.. and if I try to press more and push forward they just play over my defence and if I sted down a notch they just dribble right through my defence and score "easy goals" or shoot from the range and score that way.. and other games I am able to keep a fair amount of possession and create chances.. I guess what I need is a "plan B and plan C".. one if I am being pushed around and one if I am i control but not creating enough good chances but only long range poor chances.. I dont know what to change in case of my tactic does not play out as wanted.. I will take a look at goals conceded with your advice in mind.. thank you

my bad :-) Deep laying forward (a) Inverted forward (a). Winger (s) Box to box (s). Advanced playmaker (a) Ball winning midfield (s) Inverted wing back (s). Ball playing defender (st) Central defender (d). Inverted wing back (s) Sweeper keeper (s) And in the other version the DM is Ball winning midfield (d) and RCM is Mezzala (a)