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  1. I'm currently playing with an almost identical set up. As mentioned above, I have my DLP and CM the other way round. The CM(D) will sit deeper which covers the FB(A) better. I also have my CB on the left side on cover (but I am thinking about trialling this on the right CB slot instead as I've been caught out there a few times rather than on the left). The WB(S) is actually a pretty attacking role. I've gone with a FB(S) there who won't commit quite as much and will often play nice through balls to the IW(A). One thing I'm finding (I don't know if this is the same for you) is that in attack, things can sometimes become very congested in the final third. I've tried with a W(A) on the right side but didn't like how that played out. I'm playing this with a focus on possession, so that's where our systems differ, but be interested to see how it plays out in a more counter style. What I've found is that the central midfield pairing are integral to any success you have. You need to get the right players there. I've gone for players with high teamwork, work rate, anticipation, off the ball, marking and tackling (but obviously an emphasis on passing and vision for the DLP). If you can find two solid players in those positions, it will go a long way to making this a quality tactic.
  2. Thanks for your feedback. I've tinkered with it again a little bit (before seeing your comment) and beat top of the table Liverpool, 3-1 Went with the following: SK(D) WB(S) - BPD(C) - CD(D) - WB(S) HB(D) MEZ(A) - BWM(S) IF(S) - IW(A) DLF(A) Shorter passing, play out, low crosses, focus through the middle, lower tempo Distribute to CBs, hold shape, counter press Defender narrow, higher line of engagement, more urgent, prevent short GK kicks DLF seems to hold things up top a little better which takes some of the pressure off the defence. The Mezella scored a hat trick so I was probably missing that attacking threat from midfield (as was mentioned further up). You've said about defending wider - can I ask why you think that would be a good idea? Thanks
  3. I would appreciate any and all feedback to tie external ideas into my own.
  4. Positive mentality. It's worked very well up until now. Striker scoring 15+ every year. Goals from out wide and midfield. Not conceding too many goals either. I've just made some changes so it looks like this now. SK(D) FB(A) - BPD(C) - CD(D) - FB(S) DLP(D) MEZ(A) - BWM(S) IF(S) - IW(A) DLF(A)
  5. Hi everyone, I'm seven games into my fifth season with Leeds United. Promoted in the first year, a solid 12th place in season 2, 9th in season 3 and finally qualified for Europe in season 4. However, in this new season, I'm struggling immensely, despite having added a lot more quality to my side. I'm using the tactic, and variations of the tactic, that I've been using from the start. It's worked well and got my team playing the football I've been wanting them to play but that's all stopped now. My tactic is as follows. GK WB(A) - BPD(C) - CD(D) - WB(A) HB(D) DLP(S) - BWM(S) IF(S) - IW(A) PF(A) Tactical Instructions In Possesion - Short passing, play out of defence, work ball into box, over lap left and right, higher tempo, fairly narrow In Transition - Distribute to centre backs, hold shape, counter press Out of possession - defend narrower, higher line of engagement, more urgent, prevent short GK distribution I'm thinking that after qualifying for Europe, teams in the league are taking me more seriously now and setting up differently. Last season I ground out results against the top sides but now I'm getting absolutely trounced by them. Mixed results against lesser sides where last season form was pretty consistent (we lost 9 games all year last season, lost 4 in the first 7 games this season). My inside forward scored 14 and assisted 10 last season, 9 scored and 10 assisted the year before. He's now 5 games without a goal or an assist and on a 6.5 rating (never finished a season on less than 7 in this save). Am I to presume that opposition teams will be setting up to counter him? How might I solve this? Just looking for some advice on what might be happening and how I might go about dealing with it. The tactic did work, can't see why it would stop working as a tactic, must be how the opposition is setting up. If you need more details, please just ask. Thanks
  6. This is problem Number 1. Constantly changing your tactics means your players have to constantly adapt to the new system. Big changes to tactics over and over again are never advised. How often do managers in real life do a complete overhaul of their tactics regularly? You can train three different tactics, if you have something in mind, train it up for a bit and try it out in a game that you are winning comfortably, or if you are chasing a game and want to do something different to get the result. I can assure you that I am no master tactician either. There are a lot of people on these forums who will always be a lot better than me at the game, and that is why I come here often and read through topics like this. That being said, in my current save, I have got Leeds to a 5th placed Prem finish at the end of my third season. European football with a squad that still contains many of my Championship squad. You may think your tactics are logical, but that doesn't mean they are. And even if they are, maybe you don't have the players to pull them off. It doesn't take a master tactician, it just takes a little time, care and effort. FM would be super boring if you could just make a base tactic and do well with it, never having to change a thing or improve/tweak things, outside of tactics. This is a football management simulation, not a plug and play footy game like FIFA.
  7. A deeper role for a striker can be an excellent opportunity for the AMC to score goals. One classic example of this is an F9/DLF coupled with a Shadow Striker. If the striker is coming deep to receive the ball, they can take a defender or DM with them which creates space for the AMC. But the roles in that scenario are absolutely key.
  8. Some great tactical points made above so I just wanted to focus on your player roles a bit more. WB(A) - I've always tended to find FB(A) more than adequate for getting forward and supporting attacks but not over committing. I would say that your opposition is probably targeting that as an area to exploit. To counter this, you could have your right CB set to 'cover' instead of 'defend' which will see then drop a little deeper and sweep up behind. Looking further forward, I'm really struggling to see where your runners are coming from. I see two potential runners in your BBM and IF(A) but they are both on the same side and may well be making runs into similar areas. AM(S) - That's a pretty static role. They'll mainly sit in that hole and not venture too far from it. They won't get into the box much and mainly look to create for others. AP(S) - I've toyed with playing an AP out wide but struggled to get it to work (but I'm sure better FM players have done it effectively). What I have found is that an 'attack' duty gets more out of them. Also, on 'support' they are likely to be drifting central and occupying a similar area to the AM(S). DLF(A) - I'm still messing with lone striker roles but I've found AF(A) to be the most effective. I too am trying to play possession based football but I want my forward players to help in the creation of opportunities. I went for the usual DLF or CF roles but with the AF(A) role, they just seem to be so much more involved (and scoring more). Not saying I'm 100% right on any of this but hopefully there is something there that makes sense and gives you something to think about.
  9. Before getting into what has possibly been the most challenging transfer window I've ever faced on an FM game, I should probably provide a little background to the save. I'm a Leeds United fan (not sure what I did in a previous life to deserve that) and so I always do a save with them. Turns out, they're one of those teams that are quite a decent challenge on FM and it's always an enjoyable one. We finished 2nd in the Championship at the end of the first season. The title stolen from us on goal difference due to an 85th Aston Villa goal in their game. Promotion was clinched but it was a slightly bitter end to the season. We went into the second season full of confidence... ok I lied, I was bricking it, and somehow we managed to have a fantastic campaign, securing ourselves a solid 12th place finish. And then came the third summer window. The board were throwing money at me. £70m in my pocket and a large database of players, a shortlist compiled over two years of scouting and some decent players making their way into the Championship after teams like West Ham found themselves relegated. I started the transfer window at 6pm on Friday evening. I only just hit the first game of the new season last night at about 10:30pm. I was working on it all night Friday, most of the day Saturday and a good chunk of Sunday. We've all been there. You go in for a player you really want and then one of the big boys swoops in to steal them. Or their current club wants a ludicrous amount of money or the player just has no interest in signing for you (but apparently newly promoted Stoke City are more appealing than mid table Prem side Leeds United). This happened time and time again. Disappointment after disappointment. Hours and hours of scouting, transfer negotiations and contract talks all coming to absolutely nothing. In the end I spent just over £50m which included £18m for a 21 year old winger I've never heard of but my scouts were foaming at the mouth about and hey, a couple of the top Prem teams were interested too. I'm paying him a ludicrous £71k a week (more than £20k above anyone else at the club, the greedy little git). It's a gamble... he assisted and scored in his first friendly. I'm trying not to get excited. And so now I'm heading into the new season wondering if what I've brought in will improve us at all. Whether we'll be able to consolidate that mid table finish or if we'll find ourselves in a relegation scrap. Or maybe I've done some magic in amongst all the disappointment and we'll push for a European spot. I guess it's all just part of the tumultuous journey that is FM.
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