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    Arkh
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    I am managing as LOSC Lille in a save that's been imported from FM23.

    For Mentoring reasons, I have promoted some youngsters who are not ready for first-team football, and in order for them to continue playing matches and continue developing, I have made them available for their respective youth teams for 90 minutes.

    However I started noticing that NONE of those players were actually playing matches, and following a short investigation I have discovered that tey're supposedly counting as "ineligible due to being involved in another match in the same day". The issue is: They're not supposed to be involved in any other matches, only youth team matches.

    They're not in any match squads aside from their youth team's, and this ineligible status only shows up on the day of the match, when the game creates shadow players to replace them for no apparent reason.

    This has been an issue since FM23, please investigate ASAP as it severely harms player development due to a lack of game time.

     

    Step by Step to reproduce the issue:

    1. Promote any youth team players to the 1st team (Lille 2 or Lille U19s)

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    2. Make them available for their respective youth team for 90 minutes

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    3. Check their status on youth matchdays.

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    As one can see, neither of them are involved in senior team matches:

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    Its not just about promoted youth. I cant make my first team players to play in any of under21 or under18 friendly/league home/away matches if my first team have match this day. So without fitness levels your older not star players are basicly doomed. Its sad to drop this game after only 20 hours, but honestly the amount of bugs is kinda ridiculous. Are there only 1 man in QA team or smth? Its kinda funny to read bug tracker forum when 90% responses from SI members are *Give us your save pls* when usually you dont need saves to recreate bugs that this game is full off. It sad that you cant recomend any future versions of this game if you already have any of 2018+. Wont but fm2025 for sure.

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    Hello @Arkh and @nnn

    I'm not able to reproduce this issue internally. 

    It's possible this a custom skin/file issue.

    Can you please upload a save with an example at the ready.

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    Hello @Zachary Whyte

    Started new save with default database and default skin. Chose Fullham and quickstart option. Arranged friendly for u21 team on the same day as first team friendly. Arranged for 4 players to be available for u21 teams for 90min. In the mail before match, that told me about fixture clash chose those 4 players for u21. On the day of the main team match since GK was injured i place GK in the main team, other players were out of team completly. Next day after the game checked u21 team match and none of 3 chosen players took part in it... I uploaded save on ur cloud with the name fullhamtest.fm

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    Hello @nnn

    Looking at your example and speaking with the match team this is by design.

    If the 1st team game and youth game are taking place on the same day, than being available for selection for the 1st team will take precedence over playing in a youth game.

    If the youth game is on a different day the players will play, you could also temporarily drop the players down to the U21 team but that will need to be done before the match day.

    This is something we could potentially change but it might be a complicated change when factoring in game start time, player travel etc.

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    @Zachary Whyte

    Hello again. Assuming that being the case.

    1) I think that was not the case in earlier versions of the game.

    2) Why do we have that type of email then? Specifically about fixture clashing. I`m pretty sure players trying to minmax are wasting tons of time on them while you are saying that its completely useless.  Even worse - you could make your desicion to let out young player or some older in need of form guy out of main team because of match of u21 where he could play whole match. And since game dont tell you anything you could easily miss that actually they didnt even play that day.

    3) There is option in the game: matchdays only on Wed and Saturdays. How are you supposed to do anything with u21/reserve team in England`s lower leagues or countries without sundays leagues (last time i checked i couldnt find any other country with sunday league other than England).

    4) I wish as a manager i could give my star player who are rehabing after broken leg injury couple of u21 league matches. But i guess game knows better now, priority for main team.

    5) Never tried to place any older/star player whom i`m not trying to **** off in u21 team before and i dont want to start.

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