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    woodwardm28
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    HI, I checked through the five pages of bugs and didn't find this one somehow. So I'm reporting it to make sure it's known. If I missed it somehow, I apologize. 

    I used the editor to try and make six leagues with tiers. The leagues were set up as the following:

    1.  4 tiers of 20 with promotion and relegation of three teams with the best teams from North America (USA, Canada, Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama, Caribbean)
    2.  3 tiers of the best teams from South America structured the same way
    3.  3 tiers of the best teams from Africa structured the same way
    4.  3 tiers of the best teams from Asia (Middle East and Pacific regions included) structured in the same way
    5.  4 tiers of the best teams from Northern Europe (England, Scotland, Germany, Poland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands, Austria, etc)
    6.  4 tiers of the best teams from Southern Europe (Spain, France, Portugal, Italy, Croatia, Slovenia, Greece, Turkey, Switzerland, etc)

    I then made three cups similar to the FA Cup. All teams from the respective divisions get added and play a knockout game to advance. These were structured as follows:

    1. Americas Cup - Every team from the North and South American leagues noted in 1 and 2 above.
    2. APAC African Cup - Every team from the Asian and African leagues noted in 3 and 4 above. 
    3. Europa Cup - Every team from the Northern and Southern Europe leagues noted in 5 and 6 above.

    I also tried to create a World Champion's League with 32 teams starting in group stages of four teams each. The teams pulled were to be the following:

    1. The top 4 teams from the North American top division.
    2. The top 4 teams from the South American top division.
    3. The top 4 teams from the African top division.
    4. The top 4 teams from the Asian top division.
    5.  The top 8 teams from the Northern Europe top division.
    6.  The top 8 teams from the Southern Europe top division.

    I made changes in the thousands to set this up. I kept trying to verify the leagues and it would give me errors for obscure leagues I do not care about and will not use. I took the time to clear all of these rules and eventually I got to a point where I would run verification, it would run through the leagues and finish but it wouldn't give me any errors or tell me it's verified. It would just literally show the test screen again. The top right would say not verified and I couldn't use the file. 

    I tried many things to fix it and couldn't figure it out. Given that there were no errors to even hint at where to look, I got frustrated and tried starting over. I did it again copying a file I did on FM23 to make sure the leagues were set up the same way as a file that worked on FM23. But again, at the end, I clear all errors and get to a point where I get no errors but it won't verify either. For this one, I could go to set up a league and choose this database and it would show all those leagues as selectable except one. I didn't actually set one up to run it and see if I ran into any issues.

    The interesting thing is when you click test rules, it will only show the tiers from one country. It won't show the others. When you go to set up a new game and select the database, it will default to this country that was showing in the test rules section. However, this is the one nation I could not select. Since I couldn't figure out an error, I removed this nation to rebuild it. The test rules then switched to pull the tiers of another nation. I rebuilt the first nation that wouldn't load in the game and tried setting up a new game. Now this rebuilt nation would show up, but the one that the test rules switched to, which previously showed up in the new game, is now the one that won't show up.

    It's very frustrating because I've spent literal weeks editing thousands of things and I cannot get the thing to validate to actually use it. 

     

    Note: Another observation is the editor would randomly make its own changes or undo changes I made over and over. Like I'd get an error that a league doesn't have enough teams. I'd go look and a team had been moved out of that league. So I move it back and test again and it gives the same error moving the same team back to the same league. It's really finicky. 

    League & Data Updates will it work2.fmf

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    To add, I took the file I sent you, re-loaded it and tried to test leagues one at a time as some have suggested. Again, it would not verify any but not give errors. So I used the test competitions button and tried to test one at a time. It gave me errors I have already cleared. I cleared them and then it brought back another error I had been dealing with in the past that I had cleared, but takes a long time to clear. Essentially, it says the Americas Cup has 139 teams but needs 140. It keeps removing St Louis City out of the North American 2nd Division and back to MLS. I will move it back and save it and test again and the game will move the team back to the MLS. So I think maybe it's hard coded and I swap them with another team. I test again and it removes the swapped team as well. I have to keep trying over and over until it finally holds. But again, if I'm able to clear this error, it will go back to not giving errors but not validating.

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    Hello, we've looked into your file. We don't believe there is a bug as you have merged Advanced Nation Data for 6 different nations and the editor only allows for testing in the one specific Advanced Nation currently loaded (in this instance Spain).

    The result of this is that you can bypass errors and the verification process for the other 5 nations and then run these untested and unverified leagues in-game.

    You have also replaced the English, French, German, Italian, Spanish and Dutch leagues with his Continental super leagues. This means we have teams playing in a domestic league from the wrong country/continent and other clubs have had their country/continent changed. It also means that other competitions do not have the required teams.

    Furthermore, countries like England will have a lot of complicated underlying rules/regulations that have not been taken out such as ESC work permits and Brexit and now apply to teams it was never supposed to. There are likely to be numerous errors that have been bypassed, not to mention a number of active leagues (e.g. Portugal) have been broken.

    We can't go in and check every detail as you have made changes in the thousands. Instead, our advice would be this:

    1. Create new competitions, do not replace existing ones.
    2. Create these competitions within a non-active Nation (ideally one which matches the continent of the participating clubs)
    3. When removing teams from an existing competition, either replace them or reduce the number of teams in that competition (Ideally replace).
    4. Use a different .fmf file for each league/nation (will be easier to test then can merge when verified).

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