[Football Manager 2018 *Official* Feedback Thread]

5 hours ago, Ben Kenney said:

Thanks for the constructive feedback. 

Understand the new scouting inbox and meetings will take some adjusting too and may not be to everyone's tastes. Thought it best to point out that there is an alternative method of viewing players within your Scouting Inbox that users may not be aware of. 

From the below screenshot you will see the user has just received a Scouting Meeting into their inbox with 50+ recommendations. Observe there is a 'Scouted Players' link in the bottom right hand corner. 

It's definitely a big UX jump, which I appreciate is never particularly easy to implement without frustrating people.

As you say there is a link to Scouted Players which I missed because it's outside of the darker panel. I've been so use to scouting reports coming straight into the inbox (which I now really miss) that I assumed I'd have to either filter or just discarding things to get to what I requested.

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If you click on this link then the user will be taken to the Players -> Scouted page. From here the user will be able to change a drop down to show two options. These will be 'All Scouted Players' and 'Players In Scouting Centre'. The 'Players In Scouting Centre' option will display all players who would be displayed in the Scouting Meeting in list form. The user will then have the option to select any actions on these players as they would in the scouting meeting, 'Keep Scouting', 'Discard', 'Acknowledge' etc. 

The 'Players In Scouting Centre' option will always be available to the user when navigating to the Players -> Scouted page.  

See now for me this should be the screen I get when I go straight into the scouting centre, rather than the meeting one. All the info at a glance. I now quickly can see what those buttons are for and they make much more sense to me, reminds me of the Scout7 ones. Could it be an option a bit like the Profile / Attributes one for players?

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In regards to the scouts not taking into account the constraints that the club are currently under. What type of assignments had these scouts been sent on? Had a budget limit been set? 

Cheers,

Ben 

It was originally default as I hadn't started to mess around with the system, which I assumed wouldn't return you ones way outside your budget. Does that need to be set, because it seems like it should be the other way around if so.

Thanks for getting back to me btw. 

[Football Manager 2018 *Official* Feedback Thread]

1 hour ago, pizzachips said:

you dont have to go thru player by player.. there is a drop down named 'requested' and that list is whom you requested be scouted.. bear in mind once you request a player be scouted he doesnt get added to shortlist automatically so manually add that player

And that's great, but the main screen should really be a summary, and then drill down if you need to. It shouldn't be whatever happens to be at the top of a perhaps 20+ list of all sorts of things. I just don't understand the reasoning for why it is the way it is.

I've made systems for actual scouts and I can't imagine something like that would go down well.

[Football Manager 2018 *Official* Feedback Thread]

Had a few days with it and here is my general opinion.

 

Pros

• Really like the player dynamics system, I'm sure a lot of it was already somewhat modeled but being able to easily see what is happening with regards to player relations is great.
• Analysis when creating a tactic is much better, provides quick tips on what is not going to work even if at first glance your tactic seems OK. Really great improvement.

Cons

• The scouting panel is... well I really dislike it. I've made software for football clubs, specifically for scouting. If I had created that interface for them, they'd have hated it. I have to go through, one at a time, players that I don't really care about before getting to players I've actually requested to scout. Some of the buttons are unclear (acknowledge vs. reject). What was once quite simple, has become unclear. Why not have that page not as a default, but have a more traditional list view giving you recommendations at a glance instead of the screen where you have to go through 10 notifications?
  • Related, scouts seem to pay almost no real attention to the constraints the club is under. I had a go as Ipswich and got very frustrated at getting players recommended that costed £5mil+ when that is 25 times your budget. Whilst I can see the thought of "maybe this would be useful later for you" you should be able to filter these out if you know you're not going to be able to afford someone like that for a while.

 

Will probably update this when I think of more.