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I can't help but feel the Spurs researcher has gotten a little too carried away after a good few opening weeks for them with a manager who plays more exciting football than his predecessor. 

Cristian Romero has been given a huge boost in his attributes, CA and PA in 24.2. He was mostly a meme player in the premier league before this season, but after 3 months of the season with Spurs sat in 5th place and the 6th best defensive record in the division (also yet to play Man City, Newcastle, West Ham and Brighton) it's been decided he should have a CA of 163 and PA of 178? After a season in game he becomes the best CB in the league along with Saliba. By way of contrast Fabian Schar (147 CA) and Sven Botman (156 CA) were both performing out of their skins as part of the best defence in the league last season across a whole season, and have again been part of a better defence than Spurs in 23/24 so far. Saliba's CA is 164 as well for example, and this is a player who has proven himself to be elite over the course of last season and this season. It seems obscene for Romero, a player known mostly for bad tackles and getting sent off, to receive this boost to his attributes after such a short period. I would suggest reducing his CA and PA by 15 each would be appropriate along with most weighted attributes to suit. 

Pape Matar Sarr has been given a fixed PA of 172. This is pretty much Rodri-level ability and would make him one of the best midfielders in the league and a surefire world class player. He barely played last season and has around 800 minutes this season where he's been good but not standout in a team that is only 5th in the premier league. I think -85 would be more appropriate and this would make him a guaranteed good PL potential player at least, with the possibility of being world class in some saves. 

Yves Bissouma is rated as the best DM in the Premier League after Declan Rice and Rodri. This was actually in the initial data for FM24 iirc and so was based on a few weeks of the season. It's a better CA than Partey, Casemiro, Moises Caicedo who were all fantastic last season; and wildly better than the likes of Luiz and Kamara at Villa who've had just as good seasons so far. Again this seems highly irregular. He couldn't get a game last season and was poor when he did appear.

Surely these players should have to show form for more than a few weeks before they're made into world class talents on the game?

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Bruno Guimaraes' instalment and sell on clauses to Lyon appear to have been duplicated somehow.

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On 19/10/2023 at 20:46, Tom Elliott said:

As the Leicester researcher, I'll have set the majority of Barnes' attributes as they are at the moment, so happy to chip in here.

I'd recommend judging his attributes after you've played the game for a while - if you're seeing he's scored too few goals in your saves (or winning too few headers, etc.), please get back in touch and the Newcastle researcher can review those numbers. The attributes are designed to produce a fair and reasonable representation of the player's real life profile in the game's match engine - judging individual numbers against the 1-20 scale is not what the research is designed to achieve.

But more generally - this is a player who took an awful lot of chances last season, missed a fair amount, scored a few others, and more often than not, didn't really do a great deal else to support his team's cause. 'His shooting is incredible' is frankly not something I would support, really, having watched him since he played in central midfield in Leicester's academy at the age of 16. A 12 for Off The Ball is in my book quite accurate, given his attacking movement and positional play is the glaring weakness in his general game, and cost Leicester a great deal both going forwards (Off The Ball) and backwards (Positioning) in the last 18 months.

I'd also add this is a player who has scored 1 Premier League goal this season and has mostly sat on the bench behind Anthony Gordon, thus far. I think there'd be a much greater argument to rate him higher if he was actually playing regularly and/or particularly well!

Hi Tom. Not going to refute any of the other stuff but finishing of 12 + composure of 11 does seem underrated based on the evidence to me? Barnes scored 13 non-penalty goals from an xG of 8.9 last season. He was also in the 90th percentile amongst wingers/attacking in the division for goals per shot, implying that he took his chances very well:

 

In the 21/22 season he scored 11 from an xG of 7.9, in the 20/21 it was 13 from an xG of 7.4.

That's 3 consecutive seasons of massively outperforming the quality of chances provided to him.

I can't deny that he doesn't seem like a player who will be particularly involved in other parts of the game. I'd probably argue that his dribbling attribute of 16 and flair of 15 seems way too high based on what I've seen of him and the supporting data that suggests he doesn't dribble much, and when he does he gets tackled more than 90% of other wingers do (this is last season's premier league data vs other wingers/attacking mids):

 

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edit: The reason he hasn't played much is because he came to us relatively late in the window and hadn't had a pre-season prior to that. Howe also demands extremely high standards of fitness from the players. Even Bruno Guimaraes didn't come straight into the team when he joined despite us being in a relegation battle at the time. He then went on to get a serious injury in one of his first starts. 

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16 hours ago, kevinhowourth said:

Firstly, thank you for your kind words. I'm glad you agree with the majority of my ratings.

 

I do love Tripps, and he is a player who makes such a difference. I'm happy to go and have a look at his ratings again. Although, it's very unlikely we will agree on everything ratings-wise, I will review him 😀

No problem and nice one. 

The only other one I have major issues with is Botman but appreciate he's not been in your file long!

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Not sure who does the Newcastle research now, but they've done a good job I think. 

I'm here to make a case for a significant upgrade to Kieran Trippier though! Bruno Guimaraes has been getting a lot of the plaudits for our performances this season but imo Trippier is at least - if not more - responsible for this. Trips has recently said himself that he is playing the best football of his career right now and there's a lot of evidence available to back that up. I realise we're a bit late for full release so something to consider for winter update maybe. 

Set Pieces

Our effectiveness in set pieces is in part due to the innovation of our coaches (some upgrades to the coaching staff to be made??), but also thanks to Trippier's delivery. His corners, long or short are fantastic. Trippier has the most shot creating actions from dead balls this season so far:

He has 3 direct free kick goals this calendar year despite being injured for months. Also has hit the post on a few occasions. I think he should be amongst the best in the league for this.

Suggestion:

Corners: 14 > 16

Free kicks: 16 > 17

Technicals

Kieran Trippier's passing and crossing ability is on a par with Trent Alexander-Arnold's. Yes, you heard! He is a very, very technical player.

PL full backs this season:

Obviously, his set pieces contribute to a lot of the above (same as Trent), but he has the joint most through balls from full back (with Trent), joint 4th in the league overall and is really high up on progressive passes. His long passing completion rate is fantastic. I don't think any of the above is reflected in the game. See also this xThreat graph:

His xThreat from passes is second only to KDB in the league. He is a playmaker who is controlling games from right back. 

Suggestions:

Passing: 13 > 16

Crossing: 16 > 17

First touch: 14 > 16

Technique: 14 > 16

Dribbling: 12 > 10. He doesn't dribble. Giving him the same attribute as Schar and only a point behind Almiron is too generous. 

Vision: 14 > 15

Physicals

He's not quick and can be ran at/dribbled past reasonably easily. Thankfully he makes up for this by marking his opponent very tightly/aggressively and rarely giving them the opportunity (perhaps add ppm marks opponent tightly?).

He is however exceptionally fit. He plays the entire right flank for us. He plays right back but as soon as we win the ball his is sprinting to be in a right winger position and this is all game every game. He came back from injury very well, is able to play every game and doesn't seem to be declining at all at 32 years of age.

Suggestions:

Acceleration: 13 > 12

Pace: 14 > 12

Stamina: 16 > 18

Natural Fitness: 16 > 19

Mentals and Hidden:

Assuming the Newcastle researcher is a Newcastle fan I don't need to explain how transformative his leadership and professionalism have been for us. He is the best leader we have had since Shearer and a model pro. 

Suggestions:

Leadership: 16 > 19

Professionalism: 15 > 18

Important matches: 11 > 16

Pressure: 13 > 18

Temperament: 14 > 16

Determination: 15 > 18

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I think the above will require a substantial CA rise or 6 or 7 points (using fmrte to get a guage), but he is one of the best full backs in the world now. In the game he's miles off this and I don't think his profile reflects the technical nature of his game. 

[Defenders fail to react to long passes over the top]

Next game and another slightly different but equally bizarre example attached. 

Daka goal on 48 minutes.

Ok, ball over the top is a good one, but both Botman (LCB) and Lamptey (LB) don't have anyone to mark and - instead of trying to cover or challenge Daka - just continue to run straight back towards the goal as though they are not aware he has the ball.

Leicester v Newcastle.pkm

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A slightly different example attached here. 

Sinisterra goal on 57 minutes - firstly an unrealistic pass animation where the ball loops up incredibly high, followed by an absurd reaction by Lamptey my LB(d), who jumps to head the ball long after it's past him. 

Yes, it's just a coincidence all the examples are against me 

Newcastle v Leeds.pkm

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Pretty sure this will happen if you just holiday all the games fwiw.

Here is mine so far halfway through a season:

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2 hours ago, Michael Sant said:

There is a bit less space on that panel now than previously. This isn't something we would consider a bug - but its something for us to keep in mind moving forward with the UI. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us. 

Additional functionality on the UI itself, such as your suggestion about the bio being collapsible, ideas are always welcome: https://community.sigames.com/forums/forum/680-football-manager-feature-requests/

A bit more information about how you envisage it working, the benefits you feel it could bring and so on allows us to pass that on.

4k monitor here and this is the attributes screen. 

So much space is being dedicated to two almost completely empty panels in the middle section... but I have to scroll to see player traits.

It seems a bit strange, no? I can kind of get it for the profile screen which has a ton more panels, but the attributes screen (where attributes are supposed to be the focus!) is quite a poor experience.