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  1. @perpetua Thank you for your response. I have been playing FM for years, I understand that if I have players with low pace, I should change my tactics accordingly. I also understand what pace means. I also see that midfielders are usually not as fast as wingers or full-backs. On the other hand I also know that Szymanski used to play as a winger, and that Szymanski and Fred are not slower than 40 years old Pepe or 38 years old Bonucci at any distance, regardless of which attributes contribute to speed to what extend. Over the many years where I have kept playing FM, I have seen many winter upgrades and downgrades which I did not agree with, but none of them made me sign up for the forums to complain about them, similar to @bariskoklu. No football enjoyer could ever watch a game of Fener and then claim that Szymanski's pace should be 9. I do not understand why the Turkish researchers felt the need to reduce Fred and Szymanski's paces by 50% in a few months. How can such a young player lose half of their top speed in a few months? Even the researchers themselves keep feeling the need to justify this pace downgrade every five minutes here in their video stream, because they know it themselves that it is an insane nerf: They keep claiming that there was a formula given to them to calculate players' paces by statistics. First of all, no other researcher from any other country uses that formula. Even if your formula is the most accurate and realistic one, it still ruins the game for us, Fener fans, since Fener midfielders are the only ones whose pace values are calculated by this formula. Secondly, most leagues on earth do not even have the infrastructure to calculate and accumulate data regarding players' top speeds, so having such a formula also makes no sense. Third and last point is that if you are playing at Fener as an attacking midfielder against other, much weaker Turkish teams, you will never have long and wide spaces where you can sprint onto, even if you are Mbappe or Vinicius. Whole game will be played in a small, narrow area near the opponent's goal. The formula does not make sense once again. You won't be able to measure players' pace values this way. Is there any way we can fix this data error which ruins the game for us and renders it unplayable without editing players ourselves using the editor? We would like to play with Fred and Szymanski we see on the pitch in real life. They are different players in the game now, especially Szymanski has nothing to do with its real-life counterpart.
  2. Please keep in mind that pace is one of the most impactful attributes, and Fenerbahce is unplayable now. Two of Fener's best midfielders move like turtles, and they are both agile, quick, hardworking, fast players in real life. Furthermore, their roles on the pitch also require a lot of movement with and without the ball. The game is ruined for Fener fans now. Seeing Ziyech and Bonucci outrun Szymanski and Fred renders the game unplayable.
  3. The FM researchers for the Turkish league absolutely butchered some of the players by reducing their paces by 50% or more. I have already listened to their reasonings on a live stream they had on YouTube. They claim that the new paces are deduced by statistics, and that there is a formula for this now. But looking at other leagues and teams, I can't see the new formula being applied there. Veteran playmakers or old central defenders still have 10 pace, while young, quick and aggressive BBM/Mez Sebastian Szymanski's pace has been lowered to 9. Same has been done with Fred (Brazilian BWM/BBM), his pace went down from 15 to 9. Is this "new formula for the pace attribute" actually a thing? If so, why is it applied only to the Turkish sides? How can Bonucci be faster than Fred and Szymanski?
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