Martin20012001

FM 22 was the last polished version of the game, if you have that, return to it, else you'll just waste your time.

Still waiting for an answer. Very active on your part. January 13th I edited this comment, February 5th still no reply.

Okay, so I just looked through it, and apparently it was my fault. My second striker had this trait. Is there a way to remove it from Samed Bazdar without me needing to make him unlearn it? I've tried it with 4-5 players in the last few iterations of games, it never worked.

I'm from Serbia, a major fan of Partizan Belgrade, and have been doing a 5-10 season save with them in FM12, 15,16,17,19,20,21,22,23 and now hopefully 24. I've also been doing approx. 10 year saves with Fiorentina, Vitesse and Leverkusen in FM21 as well as 22, a 10 year save with Olympique Marseille on FM20 and so on. Combined I have close to 200 seasons played with no vacation and only friendly matches simulated through my assistant coach. Trained football for a few years and have been a football fan since childhood. I don't know how to answer the question about my speciality in FM, whether you meant what I wrote up here or not, I don't know. I can understand that there are a lot of people without marks and that you're all doing your best to cover everything and pull of the best job possible with the limited amount of scouts for every nation and club. The thing is, workrate and physical stats are one of the worst possible debuffs in the game along with concentration, because you can't do much to change them for better, that's why it seems someone is doing this on purpose, as you will see from the following examples in the bottom of my comment. I don't know the player's potentials as I haven't looked at them because I always prefer a vanilla save as my first save in a new game, but what I do know is that there are players who are pretty consistent in the youth league IRL, yet either have low determination or really low balance. In the example of a certain Dušan Došlov, his agility in my save is currently 11(might have changed from 12 or 10), but his balance is 3. I can understand, as I've said before, that some players are just clunky and won't ever develop into superstars or even squad players, but it really seems like someone has been going over every single player in the youth squad to ensure there's a quirk which would deny them a possibility of becoming a quality player for the Serbian Superleague. Most of them have 9 workrate or lower with okay pace and acceleration, okay agility yet brutally bad balance, and just no determination whatsoever. These are kids that are currently in the u19 UCL knockouts. I've downloaded Genie Scout now, been writing this for 1.5h. Bogdan Kostic STC, 16 years old, PA 148, determination 3, leadership 1, bravery 3, and can play AMC naturally, while he also covers STC, MC, AMR and AML (bit too many, no?) Eldin Bajramovic AMRL, 16 years old, PA 138, determination 4, balance 6 with 14 agility, consistency 8 and imp matches 4, another one ruined. Nikola Virijević ST, 16 years old, PA 134, determination 5, concentration 5, decisions 6, balance 9 with agility at 12, workrate 9 and imp matches 6, there goes Nikola. Vanja Radulaški GK, 17 years old, PA 131, determination 8, balance 5 with agility 15(okay for GK I guess), 8 consistency with 7 imp matches, 4 sportsmanship and 3 stamina. Those are all over 130 PA, none of them has imp matches over 10. 0 people that have potential to be good in this division can even dream of playing UCL or derbies. Dušan Jovanović STC, 17 years old, who is currently Partizan u19s best scorer with Alilovic right behind him is on a 117 PA, and he even scored a winner for the veteran squad this season. Concentration 5, important matches 10 again, agility 14 and balance 9. So I don't know what has exactly been going on since FM22, but the agility and balance stat need to have some kind of link, this is just dumb. People who are good at dribbling in the French league or Bundesliga don't end up with 14-15 agility and 9-10 balance. I'd like to see how many Bayern fans would swarm the forum if Musiala had 9 balance, or Neymar for that matter, even tho they go down pretty often and pretty easy. Also, in the past I've had players who had a PA of 120-130 who had developed wonderfully because they were balanced, and as much as I can see looking through crvena zvezda, cukaricki and vojvodina(the other good schools in Serbia), their youngsters are nicely balanced meaning they can develop nicely. I can train a 4 determination wonderkid for 10 seasons, and all I will do is waste time, plus none of them are any good except for matches against the mid-table teams. What I see from the stats on youngsters, the scouts did a pretty good job except for Jovanovic Dusan, but these imp matches stats and determination stats are there to make sure these kids don't develop properly. Please make corrections on the important matches stats for youngsters especially. I don't care that I had to sell Sinisterra in my FM23 Leeds save because of his important maches stat, but I do care that I had 3-4 solid young EPL players I had to get rid of because they bottled every important match(Sam Greenwood, Archie Gray, Geroginio Rutter, Sean McGurk and Sonny Perkins). It ruins the experience of a homegrown player ready to take the stage and also makes a save unplayable for the first few years if you're looking to do a homegrown players only save. If there has to be a debuff on players from smaller European teams, please come up with a different one. This basically means that the former best school of football in Europe is a worthless piece of garbage. Still wanted to know this, so here's a quote. Surely you don't just randomly select best youngsters and give them bad important matches stats. EDIT: Wrote agility instead of balance in one of the sentences.

Just looked up the youngsters of the fierce rival of Partizan, so called crvena zvezda, and their youngsters are way more balanced, although not as talented, and their agility and balance seem to be way less disassociated, the biggest difference I have found between these two stats is 5, although only one player has it, the others are mostly 1-2 points off and/or at the equal agility and balance stat. Just seems like someone purposefully tried to debuff the Partizan youngsters so that zvezda keeps on winning the league in the distant future, because I don't know whether 14 agility and 6 balance can ever be brought back to an almost equal state. I will state it again, Partizan youngsters are in the playoffs of the UCL facing Braga. Crvena zvezda youth were kicked out of the group stage. There is no reason for a youngster to have a lesser speed stat just because he is young, also no reason for any physical stat to be lower than it should just because he is young(except perhaps strength and maybe jumping reach). People are generally in their best balance and agility while still young(of course you can work on it more), so there's no need for someone to have less balance or agility if he's a youngster, right? Also, I'd argue that workrate is something you would develop while still young until you get into professional football, because in Serbia you have trainings 2 times a day, gym and pitch workouts, basically like a pro footballer, and you're more likely to have that extra willpower to go for the ball even if you're not really supposed to or it would be a waste of strength. Anyways, I digress a little too much, but my point about agility and balance still stands. These stats on the kids are like they are meant to never develop fully because Partizan would be too strong. I wanted to ask as a bonus, who determines the hidden stats when a scout is watching players? I can remember managing Leeds United in FM23 and almost all of their u18(or at least those with big potential) were either inconsistent or hated big matches, when they really haven't even had any big matches to play yet, and their consistence is unknown when they've only played in the u18 leagues. Thanks for a quick response in advance, hope I have left enough evidence, but the games database should be plenty.