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Santi Cazorla isn't a Segundo Volante... The new version of the tactic is defensive and makes the game defense first which isn't the tactic of arguably one of the best teams in world football at the moment. Looking at Man City who sometimes play 4231, they don't have KDB playing at DM... While Rodri might sit deeper, he's taking shots from the edge of the box constantly. And obviously Bernardo Silva is playing more of a 10 role when they are in the 4231. So maybe Rodri is a DM, but KDB isn't a DM and nor is Silva... The idea that this is "normal" just isn't true. It's the game forcing us to do something because the engine doesn't properly work for a true 4231. Even the game developers admitted that and said as much with their comments. The AI picked 4231 tactics and stuck attacking players in CM when the game thought it should have more defensive players in those positions. But that's not always the case. Man City's 433 for instance will invert FBs and push into midfield next to a deeper Rodri to make a 2 CB, 3 DM, 4 AM (2 inverted wingers with 2 CMs that push into attack to create double pivot higher up the field generally 1 for each side to overload using width for penetration or byline cross), 1 Striker formation. If the tactic must be this way, then they need to divide tactics for in possession and out of possession. Obviously it's hard to see the Man City or Arsenal tactic unless you watch teams at that level a lot and understand their play style. But Arsene Wenger used an attacking 4231 for decades, to his ultimate demise perhaps. But that's football, you should have a choice. Not have the choice taken away from you. (FM 16,17,18,19,20,21,22 all have the choice, why are we going backwards?) Add 4231 Wide back to the game. Allow for the AI to pick 4231 DM Wide, and let us play the game. The irony is because the AI was choosing this tactic too much and putting attacking players into roles that devs wanted to see more defensive players proves that even the AI wants to see more goals and this defensive tactical style to the gameplay ruins said gameplay.

Arsene Wenger played Santi Cazorla in CM in his 4231... You're telling me that Santi Cazorla was a DM? lol... Deluded. Thomas Rosicky, Cesc Fabregas, Ljundberg, Aaron Ramsey, Jack Wilshere... AMC/CM players have played for Arsenal for decades... Nobody is putting those players at DM. It's unrealistic and has broken the game for me.

4231 is now broken due to this change as the game will spam "too much space between the lines" unless you play with a DM... FYI, Arsenal play a 4231 Wide with 2 CMs, I repeat, 2 CMs, not DMs... So perhaps removing a tactical possibility from the game which is played by the best team(top of the table) in the hardest league isn't a good idea. I mean as much as we want to fit Mason Mount onto the field and all. Xhaka should be able to play box to box along side Partey playing BWM or DLP just like he does in the PL each weekend without "allowing too much space". I don't understand why SI would want to focus the game and model tactics of negative teams. It's like Conte and Jose Mourinho are the new spirit animals for this game. FM 23 just feels so broken now, and feels like it was made for LLMs to play negative counter attacking football all the time. Just from the perspective of people play football to score goals... Why make the game more defensive? Like do people want to watch FM 23 simulate a 433 vs 523 0 - 0 draw with 2 shots to each side? This game could of been so much better.