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  1. Alright, cheers to that, thanks for the detailed answer this part especially is complete news to me: Hope Pirlo turns into a HoYD then... For context, I don't normally dwell on this aspect, but I'm on a peculiar save - LAFC in the MLS, where there is no youth team nor youth staff; hiring a HoYD, he doesn't appear as a coach as we have first team only, so de facto the only reason to get one is to try influencing newgens - which got me thinking "well, why not a DoF instead", hence the thread. Tutoring is indeed standard operating procedure, gonna hire a bunch of has-beens on minimum wage for that purpose alone #ShrewdManagement #MoneyballDevelopmentalEdition Thanks again!
  2. EDIT: TL;DR - does a hypothetical HoYD with stats x (e.g., 10s across the board) end up having the same impact as a DoF with stats 2x (all 20s) in the ideal case? ___ Oh, this gives me a headache now ahahahah Let's see if I get this right: the game generates youth players rolling their stats and applying a multiplier based on the stats of the staff member tasked with bringing youth in; if the designated staff member is a HoYD, then his stats get an additional multiplier. So now let's look at the case from before, Luca Toni, DoF, Professional, 20 Determination, tasked with bringing in youth; The alternative option, a regen HoYD, Professional with 11 Determination. Let's ignore the other stats and pretend their Professionality value is equal, 20 for both. In the ideal case of a regen youth being affected by the staff member bringing them in, having a base roll of x in Professionality and y in Determination, am I correct in guessing that the resulting Professionality value would be higher when brought in by the HoYD, while the Determination value would be roughly equivalent (2x impact for HoYD, but ~2x base stat for the DoF)? And if that's the case, does it mean that, roughly speaking, a HoYD with average stats and a DoF with double those stats are gonna have the same impact on average in the ideal case? (In which case I'm better off signing a cheaper HoYD with meh stats.) (Disclaimer: my math skills are non-existent.)
  3. Say I can't find HoYD with good traits, but there's a DoF available with 20 Determination and Professional personality. If I hire him, and set his only responsibility to be "bring youth players into the club...", would his stats/traits affect the youth intake in exactly the same way a HoYD would?
  4. I'm still on FM16, but my signature tactic there has become a 3-4-3 / 4-1-2-3 with a flat three upfront. Unlike what the previous post suggests, I had success without playmakers. The team relies on fast counters and wide support stretching the opposition back line. Possession % is usually in the low 40s or worse, but we're deadly with the ball. Now, if your front three only cares about scoring, you're gonna run into serious problems... because maths. Either your wide players or your midfielders are gonna get overrun, no ifs, ands, or buts. I had serious problems with defensive stability until I realised that I needed "Eto'o under Mou" kinda strikers, and man marking was the only way to achieve that within my specific system. I play an advanced forward flanked by two deep lying forwards on support. All three close down more (I run a staggered pressing system). More importantly, the DLFs are tasked with man marking the opposition fullbacks if the opposition plays with fullbacks + wingers, or the two deepest midfielders if they sport a narrow 4-2-3-1 (very common in the league I'm in). You don't need them to be good tacklers, but high work rate and teamwork plus stamina do wonders. This prevents the opposition from overrunning our wide players 4 vs 2, or the mids 5 vs 3. It generally forces them into a sterile possession; as soon as we get the ball back, the DLFs drop their men and run to create a 3 vs 2 on the counter. If I'm a serious underdog, I even have the AFa pick up a man (generally the defensive midfielder vs a wide 4-1-2-3). So my suggestion is: check where you're losing the battle, and specifically instruct the strikers help out there. Support roles without man marking just don't cut it. You're gonna learn the pattern facing different formations, and will be able to set the appropriate man marking strategy before the game begins.
  5. Gotta loan out a young goalie; development-wise, better to send him to an inactive league with higher reputation, or an active league with lower reputation? Same facilities and proposed squad status. [FM16]
  6. Still on FM16, I run a 3-4-3 flat in my Servette save in Switzerland, been quite successful (S1 1st promotion, S2 1st promotion + Swiss Cup, S3 comfortable 5th + Swiss Cup + decent performance in the EL group) but, as op mentioned, 4-2-3-1 creates a big problem in the hole. Mine is a quite different interpretation, yeah, but we face the same issue at the back. I'd assume I also concede more down the wings, but I'm willing to pay the price for extra offensive prowess. Used to run 3-1-4-2 as an alternative, but that eliminates the interplay of WMs and DLFs which creates overloads wide and beautiful football and is the hallmark of the formation itself, so considering a ridiculously cavalier 2-1-4-3 for the new season (or a standardish 4-1-2-3... but where's the fun in that?). So I can't really comment on your 2-3-2-3 yet, but maybe I can give you some insights regarding the 3-4-3. Here's my 3-4-3: DLFs ----- AFa ----- DLFs WMs ---- MCs ---- MCs ---- WMs CDd ------ CDd ------ CDd SKd Standard, very fluid; exploit both flanks, push higher up, use offside trap, prevent short GK distribution. SKd: roll it out, distribute to centrebacks 3*CDd: close down less 2*CMs: hold position 2*DLFs+AFa: close down more It's based on Zaccheroni's interpretation of the 3-4-3 (dunno if you can find good readings about it in English), the idea is to press high up with the front three, with the midfield 4 acting as a second high filter (hence the WMs instead of WBs). In attack it creates naturally a funnel that goes from the WMs to the AFa with the DLFs acting as link. Against teams with 4 wide men, the DLFs man mark the FB/WB while the WMs pick up the wingers. What can you take from this? You say: Dunno if this is specific to the FM16 match engine, but I feel that my interpretation might offer you some ideas. As you can see, my midfield duo is a pure filter (CMs holding position) tasked with delivering balls out wide (exploit both flanks) where the WMs interact with the DLFs high up the pitch whenever the opportunity arises (courtesy of very fluid + standard mentality + support roles). Granted, you're going to have opponents breaking down the flanks, but as I said, I consider the "defensive responsibilities" of the WMs to be *filtering high up the pitch*. Having 3 centrebacks closing down less + the midfield duo on hold in front of them means we have a decent defensive core in the middle - after breaking down the flank, the opponents still need to cross or cut in, and we have five men waiting. Maybe give it a shot and see if there's something that you like, keep that and discard the rest! ___ I'm managing a crappy team, and this has worked alright against opponents up to decent Europa League standard (2-2 and 1-1 draws vs Braga), but we can't quite keep up with the big boys (1-4 and 4-2 losses vs Dortmund). You can really read it in two ways: either "oh, we conceded 8, we suck at the back!" or "hey, we scored 3 against a team whose goalkeeper is valued more than our entire team!". And I don't think you'd have such issues employing this with Bayern...
  7. Yeah, when I was a kid some 20 years ago if I had to name a Swiss team it was Servette or Grasshopper... shame to see the implosion they went through IRL over the past 12 years. However that makes them a great save in FM16 Gonna update when I get to Xmas I guess
  8. Tuesday, September 12th, 2017. “Good morning ladies and gentlemen, this is the boarding call for Swiss flight two-zero-seven-eight to Porto. We are now inviting those passengers with small children…” First time I catch a plane since I moved here two years ago. I would have imagined it’d have been a short flight home, instead here I am, people pointing their phones at me snapping photos, leading a band of rascals to the end of the continent. Let’s be honest - we are not meant to be here. We stroke lucky. Repeatedly. Then again, there’s only so many times you can call it luck before you have to admit to yourself you’re good. I promise that if we won’t get embarrassed Thursday I’ll join the ranks of the believers. But for now, let me be skeptical. We look more like high schoolers on a end of year field trip than a football team. My first choice starting eleven’s average age is twenty-two. Twenty-bloody-two. I’m no Arsene and, as much as I may enjoy youth’s exuberance, I could do with some experienced head these days. Some of the kids are excited, some are tense, none of them has a clue what they’re in for. We’re gonna get demolished. It’s gonna be ugly. Whatever. Let’s take a leak before boarding. Here I am, Hervé Alicarte, 42, mediocre footballer turned manager sensation in the land of cheese, chocolate, and cuckoo clocks, staring at myself in a mirror in the restrooms of the Geneva airport, wondering how to survive the humiliation I’m about to be put through. I kinda hoped Mirsad would miss that last penalty. He didn’t. We lifted the cup and got a direct ticket to the Group Stage of the Europa League. Fantastic. Except for we’re a second division outfit that got a few lucky draws and got catapulted into the football that matters. Well, technically we aren’t a second division outfit. Not anymore. We’re a first division outfit that last year got promoted against all odds. On goals difference. Scraping a 1-0 win against our cross-lake rivals of Lausanne in the last match of the season. We’re an outfit that two years ago was stuck in the third division, having been relegated due to financial instability. I remember it back in 2004-2005, when the team first went bankrupt, and I used to play here. It was a disaster. They stopped paying salaries in November, by February I was gone together with most of my teammates. Some big names in the consortium that took over after the last relegation remembered me as a “serious professional” - their words-, and, having heard that I was looking to transition into management, offered me the job. I repaid them with a promotion in dominant fashion, playing high-scoring champagne football in a cheeky, cavalier 3-4-3. But the situation reminded me a lot of my playing days here. Cash stripped. Stuck in the lower leagues. The team reduced to a bunch of promising kids from the academy, plus some have-beens and a Moroccan international with a guaranteed contract that stood out like a sore thumb in the sea of mediocrity we found ourselves in. But enough for pondering. Time to board. “This is the final boarding call for passenger Jérémy Guillemenot, booked to Swiss flight two-zero-seven…” The kid isn’t coming. I told him to come sit on the bench, that it’d had been good for him. He came to the airport, checked in, then left. He’s been out for 7 months with a crushed knee, carried us for a year and a half, now he doesn’t even feel a part of the team anymore. We had to fend off offers from half of Europe last January, this time we’re probably gonna lose him on a free. The agent is an absolute disgrace. Management offered a new contract last week, he turned it down. Not sure what to do with Jérémy once he’s fit. Maybe using him in dribs and drabs will make other clubs forget about him. Maybe making him our undisputed spearhead will make him want to stay. I don’t know. I don’t know what to do, and these kids think I do. Let’s go conquer Europe, shall we.
  9. Before the ownership change, I seem to remember PSG playing a 4-1-1-3-1 with Chantôme in front of Makélélé, basically fanning out using the anchorman as a pivot in the PM/BW hybrid role you're talking about. The partnership is different from what you want (B2B), but you can research that a bit and maybe pick up some ideas
  10. Yeah - that's an advantage of starting in the third division, actually - my team was mostly younglings. Got a great regen (screenshot) and a few other interesting ones. Some wingers with great physicals and low mentals/technicals I slotted in right away, and they did a good job. Also I'm trying to have the U21 climb the leagues, so that they'll be in third division ASAP - I prefer to grown in-house than loaning out. They got promoted in S2 so one more promotion to go. EDIT: captain material
  11. I wish. The board says that the current financial situation doesn't allow for it. Anything I suggest, they reject. We're around €900k in the green now, +€5.2M end of season projection
  12. 100% AFAIK, see screenshot attached. It's good fun! Budgets are super tight first two seasons. Signed only some Ligue 2 / Serie B rejects on free transfers between S1 and S2. Impossible to build a half decent backroom till S3. Still have to go through the S2->S3 transfer market, reputation is still too low, but we might attract some talented loanee or 35+ y.o. former stars with 4 for both pace and acceleration, time to celebrate! First season you have nominal competition (U21 teams can't actually be promoted so your expected mid table place should actually mean promotion. Season two gets way trickier cause there's at least one solid team in division 2 (Winterthur), plus whoever was relegated in S1 (luckily for me it was Vaduz, Basel was flirting with relegation all S1, then won the league in S2). Got promoted on goal difference (see screenshot). In February S2 a tiny team in division two (Le Mont LS) got bought by a Chinese tycoon. Estimated value: €80+M. Transfer budget: €31+M. Season ticket holders: 471. Curious to see how they fare in S3. Some very interesting youth i.e. Jérémy Guillemenot who IRL went to Barça and of course I lost for 11 months with damaged cruciate ligaments, YAY. Not sure if their attributes are fixed, but Rodrigues, Maouche, Hasanovic, and Sabaly turned out ok. Kutesa on loan-back from Basel is a little gem too, reloaned for both S2 and S3. You start with an Algerian international, Liassine Cadamuro (can play across the back line). With some luck in the Swiss Cup draws, you might get yourself in Europe early (in S1 I went out vs Basel but the match was very tight, won the cup in S2). That's loads of money and it's direct access to groups, no qualification matches. Thanks everybody for the feedback!
  13. Yeah, did that. It seems weird though cause they were happy to buy the stadium, but when I told them to use the cash for something else they declined everything citing the bad financial situation o.O
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