[Help with 4-2-3-1 as Man Utd]

10 minutes ago, Experienced Defender said:

When you say "other players", are you referring only to defenders or to the midfielders as well? 

I thought of both but maybe midfielders need to have a mix of both offensive and defensive attributes, as they need to contribute in every phase.

18 minutes ago, Experienced Defender said:

When I managed them in FM19 - and that team was better than this one - I played what I call "progressive possession" football. That's generally my preferred style when I manage top teams. I did not use the 4231 though, but you can play progressive possession in a 4231 as well. 

I read of it in other topics around here. It looks interesting, so i would try to implement it with Man Utd, maybe with a 41221.

Thanks everyone for the advices, not only about tactics but also about player selection and attributes. I could not think of anything that make sense before, but now i understand everything a little bit more. Now i will try these things in game and see how it goes.

[Help with 4-2-3-1 as Man Utd]

I have a few questions, just to be sure i understand everything:

• About the attributes of other players, i think they need to be really good in: tackling, position, anticipation, composure, strength and work rate. Did i miss something?
• DL as IWB(de) is to give stability on the left flank? I don't think the IF(at) can help much during the defensive phase.
• Sit narrower PI on AMR is to allow an easier overlap on the right?
• Normally i use counter-press against weaker sides, and only if i'm losing. Am i wrong?
• If not this style of football, what style would you use with Man Utd? I thought of counter-attack, but i could struggle against weaker sides.

[Help with 4-2-3-1 as Man Utd]

10 hours ago, Experienced Defender said:

Do you maybe have some more clear ideas following all these suggestions, or you want even more specific advice (with a concrete example)?

Yes, i would like a concrete example. I thought that Man Utd could implement this kind of football, but to be honest i was more interested in how to implement it first, before finding the right players. What kind of attributes do players need to play fast attacking football? I can think of pace, stamina, off the ball, technique, dribbling and passing. Maybe decision and vision.

30 minutes ago, summatsupeer said:

Have you made any transfers or have any in mind?  Are you playing Pogba as DLP or SS?

Your front 4 already dribble often, who else do you want to dribble more to use that TI?

De gea isn't a good SK-Su.  Lacks rushing out ability and vision.  His passes aren't bad and is reliable though so I typically tell him to take short kicks.

I had good success with an AF (martial) with a AM-At. Had to use Gomes at end of s1 due to injuries and even he thrived to the point my assistant recommended he start there. This was a 4411 so slightly different.  Many of martial's goals were individual runs but also balls over the top.

The main issue with Utd at the start is the RB options are better in the final third than the LB but theres no LW options who will really keep width so theres a risk of everything ending up narrow.  My preference is for the RB to be the most attacking with the MCR holding.  LB supportive as Fb/WB-Su, do you need 4 holding players as it's against most of league?. MCL as a simple role with a good defensive player like CAR/BWM.  That should give a good base.

If want pogba in your CM pair I think a 4411 to give defensive help outside (rashford as the work rate to do it) and/or a holding LB (traits + attributes) to be able to defend well without a lot of help.

Thanks for your advices, expecially thouse about De Gea and the midfield. Usually i play Pogba as DLP, but i was not sure of that. He has many attributes that could go waste if i played him in that position. Before looking for a 4231 i thought of a 4411 to be more solid in the defense phase, but since i always used that in the past years, i tried to change a bit, but maybe it's more suited to Man Utd.

 

[Help with 4-2-3-1 as Man Utd]

Hello everyone,
i'm  playing as Manchester United and i'm trying to create a tactic about fast attacking football.
Here is what i thought:

I'm not really sure about everything, so i tried to not use many TIs, but what puzzles me is how to setup roles and duties.
I went for a CM(d) to give some cover to the defenders and a DLP(s) to give some help during the attacking phase.
I've tried to make some difference between the flanks, but the the right flank does not convince me. I thought about a IW/IF paired with a FB, but then it will be to similar to the left flank, making my attack more prevedible.
About the AMC, i did not have much fortune the last years. I don't really understand what role and duty is better to make him contribute more, both in terms of assists and goals. I thought of a shadow striker, but i do not think this does not pair well with the AF.
Sorry for any grammar mistake, english is not my main language, so i hope you understand anyway. Thanks in advance.